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On January 09 2014 15:52 Tchado wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 15:45 sAsImre wrote:On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways?  Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. i'm european like boxerfred and while i watch our own scene for several reasons (ppl you see at lans/play on the ladder/cup and co) i don't give a shit about an NA only tournament. If it works, good for you, if it doesn't it's a bit sad but I clearly wont watch subpar play, most of the time totally unoriginal for the sake of supporting a scene 5000km away lol. I agree with this guy. I really hope it works out for the NA scene , they could use something like this , and I honestly hope destiny gets fired....still don't like the guy ever since the last witch hunt.
Which hunt was that? People who don't like Destiny just don't get it. But me and Sundance on the other hand, we get it, okay, WE GET IT.
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Destiny is awesome, and this whole thing is awesome. People just need to be happy for what's happening, and who's involved, and support it. Support StarCraft no matter the region!
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lol NA only and Destiny as caster? would not watch even a second
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Hm, if they have to get two active players to cast it, I wish they would get two players of different races, so that at least they can cover as many matchups as possible.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 09 2014 18:40 tzui wrote:
lol NA only and Destiny as caster? would not watch even a second
Ok, then don't.
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On January 09 2014 17:57 d00p wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 15:52 Tchado wrote:On January 09 2014 15:45 sAsImre wrote:On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways? Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. i'm european like boxerfred and while i watch our own scene for several reasons (ppl you see at lans/play on the ladder/cup and co) i don't give a shit about an NA only tournament. If it works, good for you, if it doesn't it's a bit sad but I clearly wont watch subpar play, most of the time totally unoriginal for the sake of supporting a scene 5000km away lol. I agree with this guy. I really hope it works out for the NA scene , they could use something like this , and I honestly hope destiny gets fired....still don't like the guy ever since the last witch hunt. Which hunt was that? People who don't like Destiny just don't get it. But me and Sundance on the other hand, we get it, okay, WE GET IT.
You get it ? Ok hook me up then , help me GET IT.
and again , I hope this works out for NA and their player base.
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Same feeling as some of my fellow Europeans here, hope this works for the NA scene but no incentive to watch.
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Holy fuck, thats a great way to start this year, MLG THANK YOU so fucking much ♥
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If Polt and Violet cant play, that excludes Demuslim as well, right? He would be hard to beat in the voting... Working visa or citezenship are the only 2 options imo.
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On January 09 2014 18:40 tzui wrote:
lol NA only and Destiny as caster? would not watch even a second
Great news, thanks for informing everyone.
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On January 09 2014 15:58 SicPro wrote:
I really hope that its gonna be "Country of Origin" only. Just cause you live here doesn't make you from here. I love Polt and Violet just as much as my hometown heroes but that doesn't mean they should be competing in an "America's Only" tournament.
How dare you! Polt is clearly an all-American hero these days.
Anyway, probably good for the Americas I guess; they could use more local stuff. Not surprised a whole bunch of people from elsewhere are saying they won't be watching though.
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On January 09 2014 18:56 Tchado wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 17:57 d00p wrote:On January 09 2014 15:52 Tchado wrote:On January 09 2014 15:45 sAsImre wrote:On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways? Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. i'm european like boxerfred and while i watch our own scene for several reasons (ppl you see at lans/play on the ladder/cup and co) i don't give a shit about an NA only tournament. If it works, good for you, if it doesn't it's a bit sad but I clearly wont watch subpar play, most of the time totally unoriginal for the sake of supporting a scene 5000km away lol. I agree with this guy. I really hope it works out for the NA scene , they could use something like this , and I honestly hope destiny gets fired....still don't like the guy ever since the last witch hunt. Which hunt was that? People who don't like Destiny just don't get it. But me and Sundance on the other hand, we get it, okay, WE GET IT. You get it ? Ok hook me up then , help me GET IT. and again , I hope this works out for NA and their player base.
Because more or less everything he said in the ded gaem post was true. People didn't like it because sometimes he used mean words. This idea that Destiny somehow damaged the game is mildly amusing at best.
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On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways? Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. And this other crap about "well screw MLG" is obnoxious as hell. You're more interested in trying to kill more NA tournaments for what, because you think they "owe" you? The hell they do! In fact for every broadcast of one of their tournaments you watched for free on their website that other people paid for to sit in the venue, you owe them! You got a free broadcast, you have received your entertainment and your due by sitting at your computer or TV or whatever and watching their content for free. And if you paid for something from them, then you already got that too. You paid for whatever features that service came with, they don't owe you anything else. Please get over yourselves. You aren't "owed" anything because MLG made a business decision that you didn't have a part in and don't understand. Cannot wait for the content and I will be for sure tuning in when I can! Welcome back MLG
Yes, I am not watching because it's America only. I do not cheer for any of the players, the timezone sucks. That is why I simply will not watch. Adam said that the tournament is for test purposes. Given the timezone and the players, I as a standard EU citizen will not tune in. It's not about "no koreans", it's more about "no players I cheer for/care for", so why should I make the effort in staying up all night? I don't think that because of "guys like me the american scene is dead".
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I am NOT interested in "killing" NA tournaments. For fuck's sake, do you watch every single tournament that is on in the EU or even in your holy NA scene? You're really starting to piss me off. Hell, MLG doesn't "owe me", I didn't say anything like that! And IN FACT, ever thought of a free stream with ads as a business model?! I owe MLG freaking NOTHING, and I can just repeat that I as a "customer" am pissed because of what happened and I will not tune in for a America only tournament!
Now get your rage blown off somewhere else, especially since I wrote in my freaking last paragraph "it's great that MLG covers starcraft again".
Edit: and ofc, let me repeat: I don't think that MLG counts many EU viewes in their estimations for a 5k USD Americas only tournament. Correct me, if wrong, Adam.
tl;dr
Learn to understand the difference between saying "This single tournament sucks" and "good thing that mlg picks up sc2 again". oh, and stop your attitude
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 09 2014 17:43 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 17:28 Fearest wrote:
Americans beating other Americans aren't FUN! Americans beating Koreans are fun ! One happens, one doesn't.
Too bad Scarlett is Canadian
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As someone who has paid for an MLG subscription - I can only hope their organisation folds.
They're the MWO of online content providers. Always with TBA - "We will stop sucking, sort out our bandwidth, do things you like..."
If you want to watch ghetto gaming, then fine. I'll stick with GSL, who at least seem to not hate their customers and run the only worthwhile game in town.
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On January 09 2014 21:29 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways? Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. And this other crap about "well screw MLG" is obnoxious as hell. You're more interested in trying to kill more NA tournaments for what, because you think they "owe" you? The hell they do! In fact for every broadcast of one of their tournaments you watched for free on their website that other people paid for to sit in the venue, you owe them! You got a free broadcast, you have received your entertainment and your due by sitting at your computer or TV or whatever and watching their content for free. And if you paid for something from them, then you already got that too. You paid for whatever features that service came with, they don't owe you anything else. Please get over yourselves. You aren't "owed" anything because MLG made a business decision that you didn't have a part in and don't understand. Cannot wait for the content and I will be for sure tuning in when I can! Welcome back MLG Yes, I am not watching because it's America only. I do not cheer for any of the players, the timezone sucks. That is why I simply will not watch. Adam said that the tournament is for test purposes. Given the timezone and the players, I as a standard EU citizen will not tune in. It's not about "no koreans", it's more about "no players I cheer for/care for", so why should I make the effort in staying up all night? I don't think that because of "guys like me the american scene is dead". __ I am NOT interested in "killing" NA tournaments. For fuck's sake, do you watch every single tournament that is on in the EU or even in your holy NA scene? You're really starting to piss me off. Hell, MLG doesn't "owe me", I didn't say anything like that! And IN FACT, ever thought of a free stream with ads as a business model?! I owe MLG freaking NOTHING, and I can just repeat that I as a "customer" am pissed because of what happened and I will not tune in for a America only tournament! Now get your rage blown off somewhere else, especially since I wrote in my freaking last paragraph "it's great that MLG covers starcraft again". Edit: and ofc, let me repeat: I don't think that MLG counts many EU viewes in their estimations for a 5k USD Americas only tournament. Correct me, if wrong, Adam. tl;dr Learn to understand the difference between saying "This single tournament sucks" and "good thing that mlg picks up sc2 again". oh, and stop your attitude
But you're hurting esports! ;P
Seriously though, I agree. If nothing else its been made abundantly clear that MLG treats this as a business. And consequently it should be viewed as a business. If they're not selling a product (in this case a tournament) appealing to certain demographics (i.e. anyone outside of NA) then those demographics should be under no pressure whatsoever to support said product.
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On January 09 2014 18:40 tzui wrote:
lol NA only and Destiny as caster? would not watch even a second lol tzui isn't going to watch this tournament? would watch every second
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On January 09 2014 22:06 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 21:29 boxerfred wrote:On January 09 2014 14:52 Wingblade wrote:On January 09 2014 13:59 boxerfred wrote:America only? Sorry, won't tune it. As a EU resident, I am kind of used to watch through the night to catch korean or american tournaments, npnp. I love the game. But after that whole "we drop sc2" thing, I'm kind of pissed about MLG. I loved Axslavs and especially Axeltoss's effort on trying to put community streams etc. up after SC2 was dropped, but they were dropped too or parted ways whyever. And now, there comes a test with destiny as a caster? seriously? sorry, just my opinion, but that's not worth watching. that's more like a reason for not watching for me. So, on a more positive site of things: It is great that MLG covers starcraft again. But I won't tune in as long as it's America only (and I guess as long as Destiny's casting). I guess I'm one of the few guys you wouldn't have counted in anyways? Seriously? You're not watching because it's America only. People like you are part of the reason the NA scene is nearly dead. Organizations won't hold tournaments with people like you "herp derp no Koreans not watching. Don't refer to yourself as a fan of Starcraft if you openly dislike a part of it. And this other crap about "well screw MLG" is obnoxious as hell. You're more interested in trying to kill more NA tournaments for what, because you think they "owe" you? The hell they do! In fact for every broadcast of one of their tournaments you watched for free on their website that other people paid for to sit in the venue, you owe them! You got a free broadcast, you have received your entertainment and your due by sitting at your computer or TV or whatever and watching their content for free. And if you paid for something from them, then you already got that too. You paid for whatever features that service came with, they don't owe you anything else. Please get over yourselves. You aren't "owed" anything because MLG made a business decision that you didn't have a part in and don't understand. Cannot wait for the content and I will be for sure tuning in when I can! Welcome back MLG Yes, I am not watching because it's America only. I do not cheer for any of the players, the timezone sucks. That is why I simply will not watch. Adam said that the tournament is for test purposes. Given the timezone and the players, I as a standard EU citizen will not tune in. It's not about "no koreans", it's more about "no players I cheer for/care for", so why should I make the effort in staying up all night? I don't think that because of "guys like me the american scene is dead". __ I am NOT interested in "killing" NA tournaments. For fuck's sake, do you watch every single tournament that is on in the EU or even in your holy NA scene? You're really starting to piss me off. Hell, MLG doesn't "owe me", I didn't say anything like that! And IN FACT, ever thought of a free stream with ads as a business model?! I owe MLG freaking NOTHING, and I can just repeat that I as a "customer" am pissed because of what happened and I will not tune in for a America only tournament! Now get your rage blown off somewhere else, especially since I wrote in my freaking last paragraph "it's great that MLG covers starcraft again". Edit: and ofc, let me repeat: I don't think that MLG counts many EU viewes in their estimations for a 5k USD Americas only tournament. Correct me, if wrong, Adam. tl;dr Learn to understand the difference between saying "This single tournament sucks" and "good thing that mlg picks up sc2 again". oh, and stop your attitude But you're hurting esports! ;P Seriously though, I agree. If nothing else its been made abundantly clear that MLG treats this as a business. And consequently it should be viewed as a business. If they're not selling a product (in this case a tournament) appealing to certain demographics (i.e. anyone outside of NA) then those demographics should be under no pressure whatsoever to support said product.
100% agree. MLG are the Dixon's Store Group (or Wallmart if you prefer) of gaming content delivery. I don't mind making people making a handsome profit from a service, but they need to sell a service I want to buy first. Having already paid for their service (in the loosest term of the word) I'd rather give money to a guy in the street than to MLG.
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