EPTScelight 6.0: Patch 3.0 + LotV support - Page 29
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
Scelight is looking amazing (I love the replay folder UI and Spending Quotients) but I did notice one thing. The APMs calculated are way lower than in sc2gears. Me and my opponents average about half the reported APM in Scelight than I was getting in SC2Gears. I know i'm not THAT rusty. I know that LoTV changed the in-game time to match with real-time, but if anything that should increase APM, not decrease it right? (Since now APM is AP/60s not AP/48s or whatever). Plus I was under the impression that SC2Gears measured real-time APM anyways. Is there a bug in these calculations or did you/blizzard start filtering a bunch of actions out? | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 12 2015 10:56 Kashll wrote: I recently updated from SC2Gears to Scelight in preparation from LoTV. Scelight is looking amazing (I love the replay folder UI and Spending Quotients) but I did notice one thing. The APMS calculated are way lower than in sc2gears. Me and my opponents average about half the reported APM in Scelight than I was getting in SC2Gears. I know i'm not THAT rusty. I know that LoTV changed the in-game time to match with real-time, but if anything that should increase APM, not decrease it right? (Since now APM is AP/60s not AP/48s or whatever). Plus I was under the impression that SC2Gears measured real-time APM anyways. Is there a bug in these calculations or did you start filtering a bunch of actions out? Most likely this is related to the time-change. Game length is also displayed incorrectly. Will look into it. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 12 2015 10:56 Kashll wrote: I recently updated from SC2Gears to Scelight in preparation from LoTV. Scelight is looking amazing (I love the replay folder UI and Spending Quotients) but I did notice one thing. The APMs calculated are way lower than in sc2gears. Me and my opponents average about half the reported APM in Scelight than I was getting in SC2Gears. I know i'm not THAT rusty. I know that LoTV changed the in-game time to match with real-time, but if anything that should increase APM, not decrease it right? (Since now APM is AP/60s not AP/48s or whatever). Plus I was under the impression that SC2Gears measured real-time APM anyways. Is there a bug in these calculations or did you/blizzard start filtering a bunch of actions out? Released Scelight 6.0.3 which fixes this issue. (Re)start Scelight and it will install the updates automatically. It will also notify you of the updates if you have it running. | ||
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Haighstrom
United Kingdom208 Posts
I have "Rename detected new replays in their original folder" checked, and "Auto-back up New Replays" checked, both with the name template: [regionCode] [format] [mode][folderSep][dateShort] [O][matchup][C] [map] [O]v[version][C] In the auto-backup folder they are coming out fine, e.g.: EU 1v1 AutoMM/15-11-11 [ZvZ] Dusk Towers [v3.0.4].SC2Replay However in the original folder, some (2 out of 6) replays came out OK, but the other 4 came out garbled, e.g.: 5a256e01070ae823cdc7ee878e35851b.SCReplay Do you need any other info to investigate? Thanks Haighstrom | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 13 2015 11:05 Haighstrom wrote: I seem to have a bug renaming replay files. I have "Rename detected new replays in their original folder" checked, and "Auto-back up New Replays" checked, both with the name template: [regionCode] [format] [mode][folderSep][dateShort] [O][matchup][C] [map] [O]v[version][C] In the auto-backup folder they are coming out fine, e.g.: EU 1v1 AutoMM/15-11-11 [ZvZ] Dusk Towers [v3.0.4].SC2Replay However in the original folder, some (2 out of 6) replays came out OK, but the other 4 came out garbled, e.g.: 5a256e01070ae823cdc7ee878e35851b.SCReplay Do you need any other info to investigate? Thanks Haighstrom Scelight never generates file names that look like yours, which appears to be the MD5 checksum of the file content. Most likely that replay of yours is downloaded from a replay site. (If not and that replay is really the "product" of Scelight, I would definitely need more info on this, e.g. your logs/log files.) | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
also, what happened to the eapm and hotkey charts from sc2gear? no longer supported? | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 14 2015 15:11 rauk wrote: i have the latest version of scelight and my apm is still 30-40 less than bnet shows, and im pretty sure bnet apm is still not correct since multiplying by 1.4 gives me the apm i've always had in wol and bw also, what happened to the eapm and hotkey charts from sc2gear? no longer supported? I analyzed a few replays, and sometimes Scelight reports lower and sometimes higher APM than SC2. If you see lower APM more it might be due to LotV is new and you're not doing everything as fast (by instinct) yet. But I will look more into it as LotV introduced some new command types which might also be included in APM calculation. EAPM was never added to Scelight. Hotkey chart is part of Scelight, it is just available under a different name: Control Groups. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 14 2015 16:54 Chaggi wrote: My Scelight keeps crashing and I have no idea why... is there an error log I can send off to you? What do you mean by "crashing"? Does it even start? Does the Scelight Launcher start? Or no Launcher, no Scelight? If nothing starts or it just crashes unexpectedly / randomly, then check the Scelight folder, and look for likes that look similar to this: hs_err_pid2476.log. Send those to me. If Scelight Launcher and/or Scelight starts, then you can check / send the log files which are saved in the Scelight Workspace, under the logs subfolder. You can open the log folder by Help menu -> Logs, and click on the "Show in File Browser" icon in the tool bar (above the log table, the last folder icon). By default the log folder is: [USER_HOME_FOLDER]\.Scelight\workspace\logs\ | ||
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Haighstrom
United Kingdom208 Posts
On November 13 2015 12:24 Dakota_Fanning wrote: Scelight never generates file names that look like yours, which appears to be the MD5 checksum of the file content. Most likely that replay of yours is downloaded from a replay site. (If not and that replay is really the "product" of Scelight, I would definitely need more info on this, e.g. your logs/log files.) It was definitely Scelight that did it (I watched it happen), but I think it was because I copy/pasted 6 replays into my replay folder at the same time. When I try doing this repeatedly, I get odd (and varying) results each time. But I copy pasted just those two again and they processed correctly second time. Now everything is working fine. | ||
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Bubbasmiles
2 Posts
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On November 14 2015 15:11 rauk wrote: i have the latest version of scelight and my apm is still 30-40 less than bnet shows, and im pretty sure bnet apm is still not correct since multiplying by 1.4 gives me the apm i've always had in wol and bw also, what happened to the eapm and hotkey charts from sc2gear? no longer supported? I do notice as well that my APMs are still significantly lower than SC2gears was reporting in HoTS. I wonder if Blizzard changed what sort of things they classify as actions? Or added some sort of 'optimization' that merges close in time together action events or something. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 14 2015 23:46 Bubbasmiles wrote: Is it possible to save a build order or extract it to a txt file? Every table is exportable in Scelight. Just select the lines you want to export (CTRL+A to select all), then press CTRL+C to copy them to the clipboard. You can paste the lines into any application (e.g. Notepad). If you past it to Excel for example, column formatting will also be preserved. You can export the build orders on the "Build orders" tab. You may also use the command list below the charts (on the Charts tab), but this needs to properly filtering the commands to only see the ones you want to export. | ||
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Bubbasmiles
2 Posts
On November 15 2015 23:50 Dakota_Fanning wrote: Every table is exportable in Scelight. Just select the lines you want to export (CTRL+A to select all), then press CTRL+C to copy them to the clipboard. You can paste the lines into any application (e.g. Notepad). If you past it to Excel for example, column formatting will also be preserved. You can export the build orders on the "Build orders" tab. You may also use the command list below the charts (on the Charts tab), but this needs to properly filtering the commands to only see the ones you want to export. Thank you! This really is a great app to work on new builds easy and quick now that the game is fresh and changing. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
Archon mode replays are currently not supported by Scelight. If you try to open an Archon mode replay, it will cause an out-of-memory error in Scelight and Scelight will become unstable. Also if you try to list replays from a folder that contains an Archon mode replay, or you play an Archon game while Scelight is running, the same thing will happen. I'm working on an update to add support for Archon mode replays and properly handle / integrate them. | ||
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hypnotoad.410
Germany29 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
On November 17 2015 19:13 hypnotoad.410 wrote: is there a MMR tool in scelight? There is no MMR tool to anything at the moment. The MMR Plugin is on hiatus. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2368 Posts
Details are in the first post. (Re)start Scelight and it will install the updates automatically. It will also notify you of the updates if you have it running. An admin who reads this: please update the thread title to: Scelight 6.1: Archon mode support Thanks. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On November 15 2015 05:27 Kashll wrote: I do notice as well that my APMs are still significantly lower than SC2gears was reporting in HoTS. I wonder if Blizzard changed what sort of things they classify as actions? Or added some sort of 'optimization' that merges close in time together action events or something. same thing here. I've played bw and sc2 at 150 apm for a decade, so i'm pretty sure i didnt dropped to 80 all of a sudden ^^ | ||
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