EPTIdrA on WCS 2014: "Could be a good year for SC2" - Page 2
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Hoesa
Netherlands75 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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goody153
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On November 22 2013 05:30 Meepman wrote: IdrA...... likes...... something? These changes are too radical I'm freaking out lol was supposed to say the same damn thing on a different statement | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1600 Posts
On November 22 2013 05:21 Zealously wrote: If Idra uses the word "good" without "retarded" or some variation thereof in the same sentence, it's good. WCS 2014 Good! Other Races Shitty and OP His Race Shitty and underpowered Other players shit and bad The game shit and bad | ||
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On November 22 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote: Little disheartening that people aren't taking the article itself more seriously over making a remark on Idra. This is exactly what I was thinking / about to say as well, kinda sad. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
On November 22 2013 07:53 NoobSkills wrote: WCS 2014 Good! Other Races Shitty and OP His Race Shitty and underpowered Other players shit and bad The game shit and bad and Naniwa is stupid. nah but i really enjoyed this article. well-written, Greg. i agree for the most part | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 22 2013 07:36 Gamegene wrote: Little disheartening that people aren't taking the article itself more seriously over making a remark on Idra. One doesn't necessarily have to comment on somrthing to take it seriously. | ||
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Dradugun
Canada9 Posts
The additional unrestricted slots each season are, in particular, completely nonsensical. There is absolutely no reason for them to exist if this is not intended to be an international competition, they exist purely so that Blizzard can say they aren’t just handing foreigners easy money. My understanding of what he is saying is that WCS is not suppose to have any players from any other region to participate, ie Koreans stay in Korea, Europeans stay in Europe, Americas+ stay in America (the unrestricted slots serving no purpose to this end). But this is contrary to what Blizzard said in the Team Liquid Q/A (from the very Q/A that he linked and specified in his article): Q. You created a partial region lock. Why not a full region lock? While we do want to make sure there are fair opportunities for players to compete in their home regions, we still want to ensure that the WCS system is working to bring top level competition to viewers and identify the world's best StarCraft II players through the global ranking system. WCS as of 2013 was not intended, nor designed to be an Olympic style competition that completely isolates regional players from each other before having them compete on the global stage. We explored the Olympic style system in 2012, and for the most part, the regional events received low global viewership or little support. The part I underlined is completely refutes his assumption (from what I understood from his article) that WCS was meant to regional in the Olympic sense. To use a hockey analogy Blizzard made WCS 2013 to be the NHL while WCS 2012 was the World Cup. but people are thinking that it was still suppose to be the World Cup. If IdrA is not saying what I think he is saying (rather he is saying the opposite) then my post and point is moot EDIT: I should specify this, but I thought it was a great article by him, just this one point that bugs me. | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Mouzone
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On November 22 2013 07:04 [F_]aths wrote: The line it is drawn, the blessing it is cast. The slow one now will later be fast. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
I actually would have preferred if Blizzard stood their ground and didn't region lock at this point. Blizzard didn't listen to so many calls for a region lock before WCS 2013, most of whom (including me) told Blizzard it would lead to WCS AM and EU being full of Koreans, and to decide not lock the regions. Now, lo and behold, the regions are full of Koreans, and Blizzard is doing what so many wanted prior to 2013, and lock the regions. This change of heart reveals massive incompetence on Blizzard's. The fans asked for something, and someone at Blizzard, decided that region locking wasn't necessary and couldn't foresee the absolute obvious. It wasn't like the idea that Koreans would dominate was some secret or surprise result, many predicted it. And SC2 suffered, especially the foreign scene, as a result. Very disheartening that such incompetence exists. Had they stood their ground and made the argument the level of play was better, at least they wouldn't admit to such incompetence. When are people who can actually listen and think critically going to be employed by Blizzard? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 22 2013 09:48 BronzeKnee wrote: I didn't realize that some Koreans would be grandfathered in. That is a disappointment. I actually would have preferred if Blizzard stood their ground and didn't region lock. Blizzard didn't listen to so many calls for a region lock before WCS 2013, most of whom (including me) told Blizzard it would lead to WCS AM and EU being full of Koreans, and to decide not lock the regions. Now, lo and behold, the regions are full of Koreans, and Blizzard is doing what so many wanted prior to 2013, and lock the regions. This change of heart reveals massive incompetence on Blizzard's. The fans asked for something, and someone at Blizzard, decided that region locking wasn't necessary and couldn't foresee the absolute obvious. And SC2 suffered, especially the foreign scene, as a result. Very disheartening that such incompetence exists. Had they stood their ground and made the argument the level of play was better, at least they wouldn't be shown to be incompetent. They couldn't really change the rules mid season. A lot of team made plans and spent money based on Blizzards plans. Although WCS had flaws, switching it up mid season might have done a lot of damage to teams and players. Also, GSL and the other groups helped Blizzard create WCS(per Mr. Chea) and it was their mistake as well. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On November 22 2013 09:51 Plansix wrote: They couldn't really change the rules mid season. A lot of team made plans and spent money based on Blizzards plans. Although WCS had flaws, switching it up mid season might have done a lot of damage to teams and players. Also, GSL and the other groups helped Blizzard create WCS(per Mr. Chea) and it was their mistake as well. I wasn't asking for them to listen mid-season. I was asking for them to listen before the season. WCS 2012 was awesome and regions were locked. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Edit: or at least not in any way even remotely as awesome as non WCS 2012 or WCS 2013 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 22 2013 09:52 BronzeKnee wrote: I wasn't asking for them to listen mid-season. I was asking for them to listen before the season. WCS 2012 was awesome and regions were locked. And Blizzard freely admitted not commercially viable. Also, once the league was announced, its is pretty safe to assume they were locked in, papers signed and hands shaken. There was a lot of money that got moved around and you can't just pull the rug out from under that, even if the reasons might be good. These are big companies and that is really bad business, like "breach of contract, I take you to court", bad business. | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
On November 22 2013 05:25 Erik.TheRed wrote: so is the idra bump the opposite of the artosis curse? Kind of, but Artosis curses a player more than once per millennium. | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
On November 22 2013 09:52 BronzeKnee wrote: I wasn't asking for them to listen mid-season. I was asking for them to listen before the season. WCS 2012 was awesome and regions were locked. WCS 2012 sucked compared to the other tournaments of 2012 and it was feeble compared to the other WCS seasons we've had. It was also a completely different set up so you can't really compare its region locking "success" to the hypothetical situation of region lock in WCS 2013 and 2014. | ||
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