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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:18 Plansix wrote: We don't know who decided to divide up the prize money like that. I am sure Mr. Chea and Gom had some input as to how it would be handed out. Its definitely Gomtv but im just curious to hear the teams/players reaction to this prize distribution. They cant be happy. | ||
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Mauldo
United States750 Posts
Blizzard always wanted a few Koreans in each region to act as essential "Final Bosses" to the tournament, which makes sense - you want your champion to be the best, and you're only the best if you beat a Korean. But it quickly became overly diluted to the point of parody, and the regional skill was being trampled instead of elevated. But with the "If you live outside of the region and you want into WCS EU/NA, you have to get in by the ladder wildcard spots," you increase hometown representation while at the same time actually increasing the skill of the ladder in each region. If you have to get 1,000 wins (pulled that number out of no where, don't freak out asking for sources) to get into the NA wildcard spot consideration, that's 1,000 wins you have to get and provide practice for the NA players through. Basically, I'm glad a company finally came through with their promise to help the NA scene instead of selling us away to the Koreans. All of that, and we get GSL back?! We get a higher prize pool for them too?! We got basically everything we wanted, or at least a VERY reasonable compromise. If shit goes foul it's our fault. Blizzard did exactly what we told them we wanted/needed, it's our turn now. EDIT: On November 21 2013 09:24 Bowzar wrote: Its definitely Gomtv but im just curious to hear the teams/players reaction to this prize distribution. They cant be happy. Prize Pool We've also redistributed much of the prize money that would have gone into the Season Finals back into regional finals events to reflect their added importance. GSL features a more top-heavy distribution to reflect Korea's regional preference, while America and Europe have a more even distribution of prize money between top and bottom. Additionally, cash prizes are now being made available to those who compete in Challenger. As in, they did that top-heavy distribution because the Koreans asked for it. So we do know who divided it up like that - Mr. Chae/GOM, who have been working with the teams since Day One. Mr. Chae has been nothing but reasonable with the teams of GSL since the days of the Jinro Ro8's, and he wouldn't have asked for a top-heavy distribution if the teams didn't want it. | ||
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Sherlock117
United States40 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:19 Boucot wrote: What I like is that a player who reaches RO16 can't be out of WCS anymore. It was a thing that I found ridiculous this year. In Korea you have to win only 1 series (either in Code S or in Code A) to stay in GSL. While in WCS AM/EU, even after winning 2 or 3 series, you could be out of the entire system. I thought it was quite difficult in 2013 to dropout. You had to loser your challenger bracket match and then finish last in your challenger group. So you had to drop 3 straight series. Now all you have to do to dropout is finish bottom 16 in premier and lose a head-to-head. | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
I wanna know how many people approve of this, I think these changes are VERY interesting. And awesome  | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:19 Grumbels wrote: So now WCS AM and WCS EU are going to become even easier for the few Koreans that are in there currently? Well through the wildcard slots there will most likely still be 2 or 4 koreans each season and many more will try to qualify for those 2 or 4 spots. So there will be a lot of koreans laddering on NA and EU, which should improve the level of the foreign players, thus providing a harder competition over all. Still easier than an infinite number of koreans qualifying, but it's good for the global level of play. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
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Tobon
United States372 Posts
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Sherlock117
United States40 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:24 Nuclease wrote: Where da fuck dem polls at? I wanna know how many people approve of this, I think these changes are VERY interesting. And awesome Agreed. We need a poll. Maybe Wax can add since he has first post? | ||
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Blargh
United States2101 Posts
Currently, the second place prize pool for AM/EU is higher than that of Korea, which is pretty stupid. I'm okay with the weighting being top-heavy, just not more than 4x second place. 2.5x second place, maybe? Plus, this makes it harder for Koreans to live off pro-gaming. I don't really know if this is a big deal for Kespa teams or not, but for some teams like fOu, the prize pools are probably a large amount of the income. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
a). Give prize money to Challenger players - good move. b). Slightly higher prizes for AM/EU premier players and more even distribution - good move. c). Triple 1st place GSL prize, slightly lower prizepool for other premier players but challenger leaguers get some cash - overall bad move. Korean Top 5-6 players were previously able to get a lot of additional money at Season finals, so apart from 1st place GSL there will actually be far less money for Korean players (but the distribution will be to more players due to Challenger prizepool, although $600 every 3 months isn't a whole lot). It's disappointing that GSL requested this distribution as I don't believe it's in the best interests of the players. So I foresee a further increase in retirement of Korean players and shrinking of the scene in Korea UNLESS OGN begins running tournaments alongside GSL. All the other changes are good apart from the restricted map pool mentioned already. I especially like that with many Koreans practicing the NA/EU ladder to snipe the 6 challenger spots this will increase the skill level of the lcoal ladder and thus local players. So the Premier leagues might not be as fully Korean as we expect, and even the global finals may be more competitive between regions. I await the announcement about whether Ro32 will be offline or not. This may affect how many Koreans try for the challenger spots. | ||
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HeadlessWonder
United States1096 Posts
GGWP Blizzard looking forward to SC2 in 2014 :D | ||
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:09 Incomplet wrote: Very stupid move to inject all the additional money into 1st place in GSL. A more sustainable system with a more balanced prize pool is more important than 1 guy winning the lottery. My guess is that GOM, KeSPA, and the sponsors wanted it this way for advertising purposes. I can't imagine that the players would vote for this outcome. | ||
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Dewis
Finland344 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
1. If you're increasing the KR prize pool to encourage KR players to stay and compete there, why is everything from 2nd place downwards exactly on par with AM/EU? Only the #1 prize is higher than the other regions (~$70k vs $25k). So, unless you think you're the next Innovation, there's no added incentive to stay and compete in Code S. 2. BO5 single elimination for Challenger League, with RANDOMLY paired match-ups (1 incumbent vs 1 new)? This should be considered cruel and unusual punishment to the players and their fans. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
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Sjokola
Netherlands800 Posts
So exited!!!!! | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On November 21 2013 09:35 TeslasPigeon wrote: I really hope Blizzard actively changes the maps per season (like 4 or 6 maps), because watching the same games on the sames maps gets boring very fast. In theory, yeah. But in reality, all tournaments were already using the same map pool anyway. | ||
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