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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 00:39:23
November 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#221
Really curious how 2014 will turn out. But yay maybe OGN hearthstone tournaments !
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#222
On November 21 2013 09:33 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 09:09 Incomplet wrote:
Very stupid move to inject all the additional money into 1st place in GSL.
A more sustainable system with a more balanced prize pool is more important than 1 guy winning the lottery.


My guess is that GOM, KeSPA, and the sponsors wanted it this way for advertising purposes. I can't imagine that the players would vote for this outcome.

GOM acts as chairman for eSF and KeSPA is KeSPA. This decision was probably made with the consent of the teams.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 01:09:27
November 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#223
It's late here and I just can't read that wall of text now (love the GSL and good prize pool for KR though).
So how many korean players will be able to attend WCS AM/EU?

--
Nvm, figured it out.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28530 Posts
November 21 2013 00:38 GMT
#224
Well, Blizzard certainly listened to the feedback; These are basically all the changes people asked for. Also: Them Koreans sure like their price pools top heavy o:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 21 2013 00:39 GMT
#225
Sweet changes!

Only sad thing is that we're down to 3 GSLs for the whole year.
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
November 21 2013 00:39 GMT
#226
Good changes. Can't wait for 2014!
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ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
November 21 2013 00:40 GMT
#227
they said the prize pool for GSL is now higher than AM or EU regions... but I still see same numbers??
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 21 2013 00:41 GMT
#228
On November 21 2013 09:35 Jacmert wrote:
Interesting. Some positive changes, but what I don't like are:

1. If you're increasing the KR prize pool to encourage KR players to stay and compete there, why is everything from 2nd place downwards exactly on par with AM/EU? Only the #1 prize is higher than the other regions (~$70k vs $25k). So, unless you think you're the next Innovation, there's no added incentive to stay and compete in Code S.

2. BO5 single elimination for Challenger League, with RANDOMLY paired match-ups (1 incumbent vs 1 new)? This should be considered cruel and unusual punishment to the players and their fans.

The BO5 single elimination does remove against a random player does remove the ability for players to practice against someones style or specifically prepare for them. That was a bit of an advantage for any professional player who has better practice partners and networking. I personally like it since it is a best of 5.
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 21 2013 00:41 GMT
#229
On November 21 2013 09:40 ooDi wrote:
they said the prize pool for GSL is now higher than AM or EU regions... but I still see same numbers??

Numbers on the left are the new prizepools for 2014, right ones are the ones for 2013. Now look again. There is quite a difference.
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 00:52:14
November 21 2013 00:41 GMT
#230
I love all of these changes. The 200 ladder wins for the wildcard slots is an awesome addition.

I have to echo the sentiment about the strange top-heavy payout the Korean region seemed to have wanted. Could it a cultural thing? Or just a number to advertise to potential sponsors?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 21 2013 00:42 GMT
#231
So this is the same 1.6mil prize pool as last year, and the regular seasons are getting more money to distribute to make up for the lack of season finals.
It seems like it will be much more difficult for the top few to make a ton of money over the rest unless you're place first in GSL a few times.

i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
November 21 2013 00:45 GMT
#232
On November 21 2013 08:14 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:12 Vonthin wrote:
So OGN will be able to run OSLs while WCS Korea is happening so Koreans will have 2 tournaments again?

Yup, that is correct.


I hope they'll hold OSLs. The eSports world wouldn't be the same without them.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 00:55:21
November 21 2013 00:46 GMT
#233
It seems a bit inconsistent to have different local/foreigner ratios across the 3 regions seemingly depending on perceived level and already installed player base. Like, GSL allows everybody because, well, we know no fucking foreigner ain't trespassing :D into Code A, but you gotta be more careful in other regions by keeping some spots for locals and thwart the Korean menace.

With that being said, it's probably what we need (or deserve? huehue) right now, and considering all regions being equal would lead to problems one way or the other...(too many Koreans -read, good players-, if such a thing exists, or not enough). Looks like a good solution to start with.
And glad they're reintroducing "GSL", "Code S" and "Code A", looking forward to Tasteless plugging his league without making a mistake :D

Edit: Oh and yeah, I'm a bit confused by the prize repartition in Code S but eh :D
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
November 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#234
Is ro32 offline or online?
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
chukolna
Profile Joined February 2010
78 Posts
November 21 2013 00:50 GMT
#235
its looks like 2014 will be the year of broodwar.
Grow up Raj, there's no place for truth on the Internet.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 21 2013 00:53 GMT
#236
On November 21 2013 09:47 goswser wrote:
Is ro32 offline or online?

From the Q&A:
Q. Will Round of 32 Premier League be conducted live or online in America and Europe?
This has not been decided yet. We’ll be working with our partners to determine what’s best and we will let you know if there are any changes.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
November 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#237
Korea's SC2 scene has been shrinking because they don't have enough local events to participate in, and elitist are going to complain that there aren't enough opportunities for awesome Koreans to participate. I think they should have let OGN run another Korea WCS, and players can only participate if they aren't participating in GSL. Give more money to the Korean scene that desperately needs it and gives the more skilled region better representation.
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#238
Ummm so WCS AM will still be at least 50% Korean due to the left over players? This solves nothing
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
November 21 2013 00:57 GMT
#239
i miss read it as well, the format of gsl prize pool makes me think the right column is the identical prize in dollars.
MarcusWC
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada55 Posts
November 21 2013 00:58 GMT
#240
You guys achieved great compromises. I had my doubts I have to say but you guys... WOW! I am excite. I can't think of a single bad thing to say right now... I'm sure they'll come but this is solid. The only question left in my mind is whether the round of 32 will be offline or online? I would love me some offline action. Great Job everyone & thank you!
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