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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
December 25 2013 14:40 GMT
#281
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 25 2013 14:53 GMT
#282
On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


yea im lookin forward to this
can i get my estro logo back pls
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 25 2013 16:19 GMT
#283
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?
User was warned for too many mimes.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 25 2013 16:20 GMT
#284
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 25 2013 17:07 GMT
#285
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.
User was warned for too many mimes.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
December 25 2013 17:08 GMT
#286
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8708 Posts
December 25 2013 17:41 GMT
#287
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 25 2013 17:42 GMT
#288
Excellent and fully expected news. Finally we can have a more cohesive and less confusing scene in Korea. I guess it could be considered a little sad that GSTL had to die to make this happen, but it's certainly for the best in the long run.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 17:43:07
December 25 2013 17:42 GMT
#289
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8708 Posts
December 25 2013 17:48 GMT
#290
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 25 2013 17:55 GMT
#291
ST?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 25 2013 18:00 GMT
#292
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.


Wherever the money is there'll often be need for an organisation like KeSPA.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
December 25 2013 18:03 GMT
#293
On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.

You think KeSPA cam do stuff like open a shop for the teams, support their marketing, run their own broadcasting, etcetc without getting money??
If KeSPA wants to spend $50,000, they first need $50,000.

Not only that, but KeSPA is designed to support eSports, which idk if some people forgot, but eSports is the business of competitive gaming. Why would you go into business AND go for least popular and least profitable games?
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
December 25 2013 18:03 GMT
#294
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.



I think they go where people want to see games played
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8708 Posts
December 25 2013 19:19 GMT
#295
On December 26 2013 03:03 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.



I think they go where people want to see games played


They totally did that with BW/SC2, yep.

But to get it right: I do think it is good if they are expanding to LoL. Not only is it one of the better candidates in korea in terms of interest, MOBAS probably fit well into the proleague format and its always good if you get major tournaments outside of Riots dictatorship.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 25 2013 19:31 GMT
#296
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.


Yeah I'm sure BW was neither popular nor profitable! KeSPA has gotten so weird nowadays.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8708 Posts
December 25 2013 19:56 GMT
#297
On December 26 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.


Yeah I'm sure BW was neither popular nor profitable! KeSPA has gotten so weird nowadays.


It wasn't really popular when they started of. They took a very high risk there in the beginning. That is why many shit on blizzard when they came after over ten years of doing nothing to put licence fees on bw, while KeSPA made the starcraft franchise to what it is now - by themselves. They basically built up a name for blizzard resulting in millions of copies bought and blizzard came in the end was telling them they were doing blizzard harm.

Don't get me wrong, I think KeSPA has many flaws, but the point that they started from nowhere and built up something really big cannot be argued.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 25 2013 20:06 GMT
#298
On December 26 2013 04:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 04:31 UmberBane wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:48 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


KeSPA isn't only Starcraft at all, they run a lot of games.

On December 26 2013 02:41 Miragee wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:08 zerious wrote:
On December 26 2013 02:07 docvoc wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:20 Chexx wrote:
On December 26 2013 01:19 docvoc wrote:
Najin? Who's gonna be on the Najin team?

They only have two LoL teams

On December 25 2013 23:40 PixelNite wrote:
Has there been any other announcements regarding the Kespa Shop ?


no news

So why are they joining KeSPA, I thought KeSPA was only starcraft.


because kespa is gonna create LoL Proleague soon.


I thought KeSPA was a non-Profit organisation.


I'm not sure how this is related.


I was just saying that they seem to go for profit games nowadays in a weird way.


Yeah I'm sure BW was neither popular nor profitable! KeSPA has gotten so weird nowadays.


It wasn't really popular when they started of. They took a very high risk there in the beginning. That is why many shit on blizzard when they came after over ten years of doing nothing to put licence fees on bw, while KeSPA made the starcraft franchise to what it is now - by themselves. They basically built up a name for blizzard resulting in millions of copies bought and blizzard came in the end was telling them they were doing blizzard harm.

Don't get me wrong, I think KeSPA has many flaws, but the point that they started from nowhere and built up something really big cannot be argued.


It's not like they hopped on to LoL super late, either. OGN Champions has been sponsored by KeSPA for quite some time now and the RO8 of that tournament has been 7/8 KeSPA teams for this and last season. CJ, for example, has had a team for over 1 1/2 years now.
I'm not very big on Special Forces, did they build that from the ground aswell?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 25 2013 20:10 GMT
#299
Organizations with actual employees need money, because employees need money, because employees will probably have to eat at some point. Even if Kespa were non-profit, they would still need a source of revenue for basic upkeep. Going into LoL, which is dominating the Korean market like game has ever come close to before, isn't even a choice. They need that money.

Besides, Kespa is the Korean Esports Association, not the Korean Starcraft Association, because then it would Kstaa, which looks and sounds really stupid. It could eventually become KLoLa, which if anything sounds even more stupid.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 20:25:11
December 25 2013 20:24 GMT
#300
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427174

On August 28 2013 17:03 digmouse wrote:
Translated from Chinese: http://s.163.com/13/0828/15/97CGKJQU00314Q8N.html
Korean Original: http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=236&article_id=0000091303&date=20130828&page=1

Re-translation, errors and mis-interprets guaranteed but you should get the point.

Seven months after Jun Byung Hun took the chair as Chief Executive of Korea e-Sports Association (KeSPA), he announced the "NEXT eSports" project, with the vision of unifying the eSports scene in mind.

This project will included four major steps, the first of which will be drastic changes to the structure of the association and its operating commitee.

First, changes to the participating companies will be discussed. Currently all teams are belong to their corresponding sponsor companies, which are also members of the association or members of the Council, cost of running the association are provided by those members, thus all decisions of the association are determined by them.

But since the National Assembly of South Korea voted and passed the eSports Promotion Bill, KeSPA is no longer a professional association, it is now serving the entire citizenship.

For pushing the Korean eSports scene, Chief Jun Byung Hun announced the "NEXT eSports" project, determined to make changes to the association itself.

1. KeSPA will open its doors to all organizations currently active in the South Korean eSports industry;

2. The teams will no longer need to pay the membership fee, a membership agreement is all it's needed to join KeSPA, receiving rights to participate the operating of corresponding games and association activities like player protection protocols, thus receiving long-time support from KeSPA;

3. TV stations can also join KeSPA via media agreements, grant rights to broadcast KeSPA tournaments and government-run tournaments. KeSPA will provide active support for its media partners;

4. If game developers pay their share of membership fee, the money will be used to promote eSports, organzing amateur tournaments like the Presidential Cup, and supporting eSports teams and players. The Association will actively support the domestic amateur scene, later IeSF will join the Sports Accord, to further provide support for the globalization of eSports.

5. Members and membership companies will be able to discuss events relating to leagues separately, they can also submit proposals to the Operating Commitee for discussion, the Commitee will be able to make decisions on minor subjects. Major subjects will be submitted to the Association under agreement of the general consensus. At the annual Korean eSports Award Ceremony, there will be a meeting for all members and membership companies.

6. The companies acting as Vice Chief Executive will be able to discuss the major subjects decided by the Operating Commitee with the Chief.

7. Financial operations will go under supervision by the Association Council, which will also be able to discuss and finalize major subjects submitted by the Chief.

8. KeSPA will operate under the Chief as the governing body of Korean eSports, with financial support from the membership fee and Council membership fee, to develop the Korean eSports scene. KeSPA will be working on their best to protect the players and help them retire into society if necessary, and provided support for the continuous running of teams. The Association will further maintain peace relationships among all members, and help communicate between members, to fans and media.


There was also a interview by fomos stating KeSPA is negotiating with GomTV and SPOTV (Proleague broadcaster) for accepting them as official broadcasting partners, and KeSPA is looking good being accepted as an official sports organzation.

TL;DR: KeSPA no longer requires membership fee to join, all Korean teams and organization will be able to join; broadcasting companies will be free to broadcast KeSPA events as long as they join KeSPA.

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