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goody153
44019 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:26 IAmWithStupid wrote: Best terran = Bomber Not a single #$%^ was given about protoss Best zerg = Jaedong Also, about Jaedong: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oIsqA78.png) lol .. but look at jaedongs ladder record 40-0 o.O still pretty good if you go undefeated 40 times | ||
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Provok
France159 Posts
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
Anyway: Terran: Maru/innovation Protoss: Dear/sOs Zerg: Jaedong/Soulkey Feel like it's fairly clear cut. Bomber/Taeja/Polt definitely up there but not top 2. Can't wait to see Innovation again I've been missing his dominance. I don't think he was expecting Finale to play so well and practiced too much TvT  | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:43 goody153 wrote: lol .. but look at jaedongs ladder record 40-0 o.O still pretty good if you go undefeated 40 times This is AM server right? Was his MMR low? Obviously it's good, but all the players at Blizzcon could probably repeat that feat. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:55 DJHelium wrote: This is AM server right? Was his MMR low? Obviously it's good, but all the players at Blizzcon could probably repeat that feat. I think someone said the account started with Plat MMR from last season, but yeah I kind of agree with you. We've already seen people like ByuN come over and get like 85+% win rates on NA so pretty much anyone from Blizzcon could be expected to do way better than that. 40-0 is still impressive not drop a map though. | ||
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
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goody153
44019 Posts
On November 14 2013 11:02 XtreMe_au wrote: Didn't Inno get like 50-1 in EU (losing to a random Masters hahaha) when did that happen ? | ||
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Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
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XtreMe_au
Australia412 Posts
Just before Season 2 finals when he was training in Germany | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
Of course, one could argue that the entire point of basically turning all the major tournaments into part of one massive supertournament to settle the best of the best would be to eliminate this ambiguity. It really comes down to how much you buy into the idea of a playoff system being a valid way to settle the best in a given sport. IME, most Americans really do place most of the value on winning the "championship". Whereas Europeans are more likely to place more emphasis on the overall body of work. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On November 14 2013 09:09 Pandain wrote: This he is the best player in the world. He fell to Jaedong, but he went head to head in straight up games while sOs did more mindgames. See his game vs Whirlwhind and how he controls, it's beautiful. Huge Dear fan here, but I think you're putting too much stock in the alleged "correct way to play", which is perceived to be macro. Similarly not enough credit is given to the mindgames, which show intelligence, willingness to take calculated risks, and ability to select builds. | ||
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sithvincent
24 Posts
When sOs wins: 'No best player in the world even if he beats Jaedong and Bomber because a million fans on TL cast doubts on his wins' Of course, JD hasn't won but we all know what Wax will post if JD wins... | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
On November 14 2013 12:09 sithvincent wrote: If Jaedong wins: 'The tyrant finally cements his best player in the world status by beating 2 time champion dear' When sOs wins: 'No best player in the world even if he beats Jaedong and Bomber' People underestimate the gulf between WCS America and WCS Korea. Jaedong faced vastly weaker competition than sOs did most of the year (though he did perform well at dreamhack and in the season finals, which does deserve some credit). | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On November 14 2013 10:55 DJHelium wrote: This is AM server right? Was his MMR low? Obviously it's good, but all the players at Blizzcon could probably repeat that feat. 40-0 is good but it really depends on the original MMR. I'm currently at 34-0 on NA (im EU player) but I was only matched against gold. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On November 14 2013 12:30 Bagration wrote: sOs is the best. He is #1. He is the 2013 WCS champion. End of discussion You win one weekend tourney and you're the world's greatest player with no debate? Come now..... | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On November 14 2013 11:15 ZenithM wrote: B-b-but, that's not what Tasteless said! That was the first thing that popped up into my head when I read this thread title/article. : (' Oh, Tasteless. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On November 14 2013 13:07 Darkhoarse wrote: You win one weekend tourney and you're the world's greatest player with no debate? Come now..... Blizzcon is not just any weekend tournament. It's the world championship, it's the Super Bowl of SC2, our version of The International. Sure, there is a lot of volatility in a single weekend, but what matters is the clutch factor. If you cannot perform when the pressure is on, then that is unfortunate. Now of course there is going to be discussion now. But 5 years from now, when we look back on Liquipedia to see who won WCS 2013, we are only going to see sOs. That's what SC2 is all about, winning the championship. Remember oGs Top? He made it to the finals of GSL August. But no one cares, because he didn't win it all. Remember the guy Fruitdealer beat in the first GSL? Neither do I. And it wasn't even close. He won Blizzcon convincingly, with a 4-1 finals finish. | ||
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