There is No Best in the World - WCS Aftermath - Page 11

On November 19 2013 01:54 Grumbels wrote:
funny how it's only the eSF terran players that can keep up with kespa players

On November 19 2013 09:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


pfft what about Dear and Trap, they're eSF >_>

On November 14 2013 09:13 Lorch wrote:
I say sOs is tbh. I really wanna say jaedong with all my heart, and getting to the finals of 5 top tier tournaments this year surely speaks for him, but he lacks that one championship you somewhat need to call somebody the best. Blizzcon was supposed to be the event that'd crown the one champion of this years wcs, and where parting competed in a tournament that was so full of foreigners, and the thing that used to be WC fucking G, which I would never use as something to decide the best player in the world by, sos won an insanely stacked tournament at blizzcon and to me thats enough to call him the best atm. But starcraft is always changing and given that korean individual leagues are at halt it'll take a while to see whether sos can maintain his position.

@1Dhalism: He basically won season 1 kr (that one game difference doesn't matter much to me, he literally needed to just build a tank 3 out of the 4 he lost) and the season 1 finals + his proleague performance was insane.

On November 16 2013 21:44 Zealously wrote:


This is why. No other player has a comparable list of achievements in 2013.

On November 19 2013 10:12 FabledIntegral wrote:


He most likely meant original eSF.

On November 16 2013 21:54 Zealously wrote:


I think the winningest player this year has won 3 championships. JD has placed top 4 in 7 tournaments, finishing second in five of those. All of said tournaments had top players participating. I'm not necessarily saying that JD is better than Soulkey or some shit, but it's undeniable that he has performed extremely well this year. The SC community has an obsession with gold medals and somehow always looks down on silvers, but there aren't many players that could have placed highly in seven major tournaments in a year, even if they had the chance.

On November 20 2013 04:52 Shiori wrote:

Yeah, but look at the actual tournaments and who you're comparing him to. Most of the other contenders for best in the world didn't even have the chance to fly out to every Dreamhack that there was, nor did they play in WCS America. It's doubtful JD would have gotten into WCS KR in the early seasons, since he struggled in Challenger AM, but even though he picked up the pace later, that could have seriously changed his narrative.

Further, look at the caliber of the players he beat while making some of his top 4 runs. Between his 3 Dreamhack placings, JD only actually beat 3 or 4 people who could actually be called anything remotely close to a top tier Korean. I mean, that's not to say beating Taeja wasn't impressive, but it really does bring us back to reality a little bit when counting medal totals to realize how much lower the average skill level was at some of these Dreamhacks. While his performance at WCS Season 2 was great, and his performance at Blizzcon was spectacular, JD got destroyed at WCS Season 3.

My point is that, compared to the other top level Korean players, JD is good but not somehow a level above them, or even close to being a level above them. When you look at how JD fares against indisputably strong Korean players, his dominance is less clear. He's taken down some titans, to be sure, but he's also gotten annihilated in multiple finals. When it's once or twice, we can say it's a fluke, but when, of the 3 finals appearances in WCS JD's made (which all occured within the past 5 months, might I add), he's taken a total of one game, it's pretty hard to construe him as being the best player in the world.

On November 20 2013 08:01 Beyond Magic wrote:
I have to say that this has been Jaedongs year in many ways.
Like everyone knows, hes been on 2nd place for... was it 5 or 6 times this year, so thats the proof of results.

Ive followed his play quite a bit and during this year, he has gone better and better and better, inch by inch hes getting there.
His reactions are starting to get more faster and smarter.

A year ago, you could see that JD didnt understand the game well enough to compete at high level but now hes getting there.
atm there are still small holes in his play but in short future i believe his ability to read the game will be even higher and he can crush everyone =)

Staying on topic, i can't say jaedong was best player of this year but it's been amazing to watch his evolution, how well hes adapting to sc2. I hope Flash will be able to do the same next year.