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There is No Best in the World - WCS Aftermath - Page 3

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#41
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja
Moderator
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#42
This article is spot on. I think that the struggle most people would have naming the world's "best player" right now is a good metric for the fact that it is almost impossible to have a "best in the world" under most circumstances. Maybe at the height of Mvp's power, we could've said so.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#43
On November 14 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja

Your list is missing someone. I'll let you guess.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 01:01:12
November 14 2013 01:00 GMT
#44
there is no flash yet in sc2 .. and the real flash is still not doing well after the proleague and wcs season 2 .. and im still hoping for him to achieve better T_T

and i would say Dear would be the strongest player in the world .. even if jaedong took him out .. but come on ? it was no shame it was jaedong .. the kids too good in all games .. and he is working so hard to achieve that form .. and the dong also needs to win against Dear so that he could complete the kong cycle in wcs grand finals :p
this is a quote
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 14 2013 01:03 GMT
#45
Translation: "sOs is not on the list of players we like to hype even when they fail".
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 14 2013 01:03 GMT
#46
On November 14 2013 09:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja

Your list is missing someone. I'll let you guess.

It was impressive that duckdeok beat Innovation and went 2-3 against Maru but I wouldn't consider him overall good enough to put on the list just yet
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GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 01:15:49
November 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#47
The Turtle Moves
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 01:15 GMT
#48
On November 14 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja

Your list is missing someone. I'll let you guess.

It was impressive that duckdeok beat Innovation and went 2-3 against Maru but I wouldn't consider him overall good enough to put on the list just yet

How did you know
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
November 14 2013 01:17 GMT
#49
I blame KadaverBB for that silver of Jaedong, he didn't let us post rainbow sheeps to give more power to The Tyrant.
JD is BONJWA!
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 14 2013 01:17 GMT
#50
On November 14 2013 10:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 10:03 Shellshock wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:57 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja

Your list is missing someone. I'll let you guess.

It was impressive that duckdeok beat Innovation and went 2-3 against Maru but I wouldn't consider him overall good enough to put on the list just yet

How did you know


How can you not mention Naniwa?! Didn't you see how he crushed Revival, easy 3-0. Very impressive series imo.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2013 01:19 GMT
#51
I'm talking about Life, clearly.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 14 2013 01:22 GMT
#52
I like these periods of unpredictability and chaos, as long as they aren't the norm. Chaos is fun, shakes things up, but only in small doses.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 14 2013 01:22 GMT
#53
best terran = Maru
best Protoss = sOs/dear
best zerg =Jaedong

all agree?
yo
IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
November 14 2013 01:26 GMT
#54
On November 14 2013 10:22 Killmouse wrote:
best terran = Maru
best Protoss = sOs/dear
best zerg =Jaedong

all agree?


Best terran = Bomber
Not a single #$%^ was given about protoss
Best zerg = Jaedong

Also, about Jaedong:
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Insert wise words here
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
November 14 2013 01:27 GMT
#55
On November 14 2013 08:51 Fuell wrote:
#JDSTAYSTRONG

Jaedong.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 14 2013 01:31 GMT
#56
On November 14 2013 09:09 Cokefreak wrote:
Huh, didn't (P)BeSt retire? I thought this was an article about him.

Need to be able to TLPD words in thread titles imo.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 14 2013 01:35 GMT
#57
People say sOs fell off in WCS Korea S2, but WCS Korea is INSANE. sOs was knocked out in the RO32 for losing a BO1 to Maru, the eventual champion, and a BO1 to soO, S3 runner-up. If you put sOs in America he probably would have won every season.
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
November 14 2013 01:38 GMT
#58
On November 14 2013 09:57 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 09:00 DJHelium wrote:
I feel that only if Dear had won we would have a best player in the world atm, and even then I wouldn't be certain.

As it is now, I feel there's about 6-8 players that all could be considered. And it feels good!


This is civil war. Time to choose sides!

The warlords:

sOs
Dear
Maru
Jaedong
Soulkey
Innovation
Parting
Bomber
Taeja


Add polt and i agree
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Inferior
Profile Joined November 2013
United States4 Posts
November 14 2013 01:40 GMT
#59
Very good read, JD has been playing really well lately, he just can't seem to close out the tournament.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 14 2013 01:42 GMT
#60
I would argue that WCS Korea is the tournament that determines the best of the best, but even then, that tournament has a lot of quirky inconsistencies because it is more preparation based. Usually, the favorites such as SoulKey begin to fall shortly because of the VODS that display his style. I think SC2 needs more time to develop, so Blizzard can figure out if this chaotic scene is fitting or not.

BlizzCon should be viewed more as a World Cup that gathers players from all over the world. As for soccer these days, the best region is considered to be Europe, which acts like WCS Korea in some ways.
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