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People crying about MLG, guess what? You can't make money out of hosting Starcraft 2 tournaments. You think you are entitled to MLG throwing money down the drain just to entertain you?
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Sad to see one of my favorite channels ending and two of my favorite casters leaving. Thanks axbros for entertainment, it was fun drinking with you ! And thanks MLG for giving opportunity to see these fellows.
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On November 14 2013 10:30 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 10:21 xuanzue wrote:Wow, some tumbler blog that freely admits to using the service themselves, how damning is that. That some fact finding right there, super reputable, very informative and clearly FACT. Clearly this master of tumbler has dug up some shady business and nefarious deeds. you are really cute. first you say: Just a bunch of bull shit you made up. and now you say, hey, it's not that bad. Because its not what you said it is, buying followers. No one is paid to follow you. Its advertising for twitter. What you is only partly true if you stretch the meaning of the word buying.
I'm a bit confused by that site, but from what I can gather, you can pay to have random people follow you. And apparently it worked quite nicely, tripling his followers over the course of 2 months.
Just shows that twitter follower numbers are to be taken with a gigantic grain of salt.
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You say dead game.
I say dead league.
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On November 15 2013 03:35 Trowa127 wrote:
People crying about MLG, guess what? You can't make money out of hosting Starcraft 2 tournaments. You think you are entitled to MLG throwing money down the drain just to entertain you?
I'm so glad we have Dreamhack and ESL to waste money on us for free!
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On November 15 2013 03:35 Trowa127 wrote:
People crying about MLG, guess what? You can't make money out of hosting Starcraft 2 tournaments. You think you are entitled to MLG throwing money down the drain just to entertain you?
Uhm, the whole point of MLG is to entertain people...?
If they stop supporting the stuff I enjoy, I stop supporting them. Easy as that. Do they care about that? Probably not, they evaluated the situation and came to the conclusion that it does not generate enough revenue/viewers when they produce a SC2 tournament in the current situation. This business decision and the the icy way with which it was not communicated did burn some bridges with the SC2 community, though, which may or may not hurt them in the future. We'll see.
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On November 15 2013 01:29 Vete wrote:They will cast Proleague. you can quote me later 
It is now later and I have quoted you!
Although I think this isn't very likely xD
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On November 13 2013 21:23 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2013 21:16 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:12 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:01 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 20:56 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 20:22 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 19:53 Grettin wrote:On November 13 2013 19:45 TeeTS wrote:On November 13 2013 19:41 diwurn wrote:
That's it for MLG and SC2 I guess... Hope Axeltoss and Axslav will find a new home! yep. I wouldn´t expect MLG to pick up SC2 again unless it gets an unforseen boost in fanbase. I don't think its about the fanbase/viewer numbers. Sure, Dota2 probably gets more viewers, but what Dota 2 has to offer is something that benefits MLG as well. For example, ticket sales to increase prize pools (like with this upcoming tournament), which makes the tournament even bigger. Wasn't there some discussion awhile back about MLG having to pay to Blizzard for hosting tournaments? Yes, though that has been refuted by MLG, if I remember correctly. Then again, MLG said they initially cancelled SC2 from one of their events because Red Bull already signed up an event for that date, and you can't have 2 SC2 events at the same weekend. And the Red Bulle vent turned out to be an 8 player invitational. Soo.. Blizzard is completely fine with giving up a huge MLG tournament for an 8 player invitational, just because the latter was there first? And MLG is completely fine with that, too? Something just didn't add up, and it seemed like MLG used that as a convenient excuse (whether true or not) to ditch SC2 as a whole. The impression I got was that Blizzard doesn't play favorites and doesn't try to make events move to get out of each others way. They don't want to take the place of events communicating with each other. I said this before in a Dota 2 thread. MLG might come back to SC2, but right now they are taking a break. The community is doing the same. The Dota 2 community, though critical, has been overwhelmingly excited about the first big LAN in NA since TI3 and MLG is really doubling down on that. Both MLG and the SC2 community need to decide if they want to be together and not take the other for granted. I think a clean slate is best for both sides and MLG can see where they fit in after Blizzard announced WCS 2014. But does that make any sense? Maybe I'm just dense here, but if I were Blizzard and I'd find out that a tournament with hundreds of participants and thousands of live viewers could not happen because of an 8 player invitational, I sure as hell would try to see what I can do to make both happen instead of saying "Eh, bad luck, better tell us your dates earlier next time!". I'm not trying to say that MLG is the SC2-hating devil. But I do find the official reasoning for dropping SC2 to be rather.. odd, both from MLG's point of view as well as Blizzard's. You would be shocked how little power Blizzard has at the end of the day to force another business to do something. People act like they are all powerful and control all of SC2, but they can't make anyone move an event to another date. Plus the venues that were rented costs thousands(sometimes tens of thousands) of dollars just to secure for a weekend. It also needs to be done months and months in advance, sometimes a full year. And you can't get that money back. Once these events are booked, there might be nothing Blizzard can do to change the dates. And at that point, what do they do? Tell Redbull they can't show SC2 at their SC2 only event? Sometimes there is no good solution and you just take the best of the terrible choices you have. Allowing both events to take place seems like the obvious thing to do here, and only Blizzard could make that happen, since it is Blizzard in the first place that requires events to basically get permission before they take place. And your argument actually goes both ways: Everything has to be planned and paid for and worked for months in advance. You think MLG would just give up their main game for one of their big events just like that, just because an 8 player invitational happened to be on the same weekend? Wouldn't it be a huge deal to have to change plans, etc. due to the scheduling conflict? That is exactly what they did. They have a good relationship with Red Bull and decided to not step on their toes and just not have SC2 at this event. It's really not that crazy, it's really bad business to make the fans choose. They can always have SC2 at another event. I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that "Good relationship with Red Bull" is more important than "Main event of one of our big events".  Of course I'm not MLG, and I might be missing something here. And I might be entirely wrong, too. But to me it just feels that there was way more going on in the background, and that MLG was neither surprised nor entirely unhappy about having to drop SC2. And that they did not pick it up again and now let go of their SC2 casters just confirms to me that they are not planning to return to the game in the near or intermediate future.
You forget that it's Blizzard's decision to allow both tournaments to run at the same time. It seems like they didn't allow it. MLG literally isn't allowed to run an SC2 tournament if Blizzard isn't allowing them.
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On November 15 2013 06:59 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2013 21:23 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:16 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:12 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:01 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 20:56 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 20:22 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 19:53 Grettin wrote:On November 13 2013 19:45 TeeTS wrote:
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yep. I wouldn´t expect MLG to pick up SC2 again unless it gets an unforseen boost in fanbase. I don't think its about the fanbase/viewer numbers. Sure, Dota2 probably gets more viewers, but what Dota 2 has to offer is something that benefits MLG as well. For example, ticket sales to increase prize pools (like with this upcoming tournament), which makes the tournament even bigger. Wasn't there some discussion awhile back about MLG having to pay to Blizzard for hosting tournaments? Yes, though that has been refuted by MLG, if I remember correctly. Then again, MLG said they initially cancelled SC2 from one of their events because Red Bull already signed up an event for that date, and you can't have 2 SC2 events at the same weekend. And the Red Bulle vent turned out to be an 8 player invitational. Soo.. Blizzard is completely fine with giving up a huge MLG tournament for an 8 player invitational, just because the latter was there first? And MLG is completely fine with that, too? Something just didn't add up, and it seemed like MLG used that as a convenient excuse (whether true or not) to ditch SC2 as a whole. The impression I got was that Blizzard doesn't play favorites and doesn't try to make events move to get out of each others way. They don't want to take the place of events communicating with each other. I said this before in a Dota 2 thread. MLG might come back to SC2, but right now they are taking a break. The community is doing the same. The Dota 2 community, though critical, has been overwhelmingly excited about the first big LAN in NA since TI3 and MLG is really doubling down on that. Both MLG and the SC2 community need to decide if they want to be together and not take the other for granted. I think a clean slate is best for both sides and MLG can see where they fit in after Blizzard announced WCS 2014. But does that make any sense? Maybe I'm just dense here, but if I were Blizzard and I'd find out that a tournament with hundreds of participants and thousands of live viewers could not happen because of an 8 player invitational, I sure as hell would try to see what I can do to make both happen instead of saying "Eh, bad luck, better tell us your dates earlier next time!". I'm not trying to say that MLG is the SC2-hating devil. But I do find the official reasoning for dropping SC2 to be rather.. odd, both from MLG's point of view as well as Blizzard's. You would be shocked how little power Blizzard has at the end of the day to force another business to do something. People act like they are all powerful and control all of SC2, but they can't make anyone move an event to another date. Plus the venues that were rented costs thousands(sometimes tens of thousands) of dollars just to secure for a weekend. It also needs to be done months and months in advance, sometimes a full year. And you can't get that money back. Once these events are booked, there might be nothing Blizzard can do to change the dates. And at that point, what do they do? Tell Redbull they can't show SC2 at their SC2 only event? Sometimes there is no good solution and you just take the best of the terrible choices you have. Allowing both events to take place seems like the obvious thing to do here, and only Blizzard could make that happen, since it is Blizzard in the first place that requires events to basically get permission before they take place. And your argument actually goes both ways: Everything has to be planned and paid for and worked for months in advance. You think MLG would just give up their main game for one of their big events just like that, just because an 8 player invitational happened to be on the same weekend? Wouldn't it be a huge deal to have to change plans, etc. due to the scheduling conflict? That is exactly what they did. They have a good relationship with Red Bull and decided to not step on their toes and just not have SC2 at this event. It's really not that crazy, it's really bad business to make the fans choose. They can always have SC2 at another event. I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that "Good relationship with Red Bull" is more important than "Main event of one of our big events". Of course I'm not MLG, and I might be missing something here. And I might be entirely wrong, too. But to me it just feels that there was way more going on in the background, and that MLG was neither surprised nor entirely unhappy about having to drop SC2. And that they did not pick it up again and now let go of their SC2 casters just confirms to me that they are not planning to return to the game in the near or intermediate future. You forget that it's Blizzard's decision to allow both tournaments to run at the same time. It seems like they didn't allow it. MLG literally isn't allowed to run an SC2 tournament if Blizzard isn't allowing them.
And I was arguing that it would also have been in Blizzard's best interest to keep SC2 at MLG. I hope I don't need to explain why.
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On November 14 2013 10:43 Inferior wrote:
Good to see them leave MLG. MLG is extremely selfish, but sucks to see that there will be less events to watch if SC2/Blizz/WCS and MLG don't work together anymore.
The fact they are selfish allows MLG to make money and actually pay their players. I'd rather stick to an organization that's selfish and can keep promises to their players instead of those "good" organizations that make players wait a year for payment. *cough* ESL *cough*
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On November 15 2013 06:59 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2013 21:23 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:16 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:12 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:01 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 20:56 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 20:22 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 19:53 Grettin wrote:On November 13 2013 19:45 TeeTS wrote:
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yep. I wouldn´t expect MLG to pick up SC2 again unless it gets an unforseen boost in fanbase. I don't think its about the fanbase/viewer numbers. Sure, Dota2 probably gets more viewers, but what Dota 2 has to offer is something that benefits MLG as well. For example, ticket sales to increase prize pools (like with this upcoming tournament), which makes the tournament even bigger. Wasn't there some discussion awhile back about MLG having to pay to Blizzard for hosting tournaments? Yes, though that has been refuted by MLG, if I remember correctly. Then again, MLG said they initially cancelled SC2 from one of their events because Red Bull already signed up an event for that date, and you can't have 2 SC2 events at the same weekend. And the Red Bulle vent turned out to be an 8 player invitational. Soo.. Blizzard is completely fine with giving up a huge MLG tournament for an 8 player invitational, just because the latter was there first? And MLG is completely fine with that, too? Something just didn't add up, and it seemed like MLG used that as a convenient excuse (whether true or not) to ditch SC2 as a whole. The impression I got was that Blizzard doesn't play favorites and doesn't try to make events move to get out of each others way. They don't want to take the place of events communicating with each other. I said this before in a Dota 2 thread. MLG might come back to SC2, but right now they are taking a break. The community is doing the same. The Dota 2 community, though critical, has been overwhelmingly excited about the first big LAN in NA since TI3 and MLG is really doubling down on that. Both MLG and the SC2 community need to decide if they want to be together and not take the other for granted. I think a clean slate is best for both sides and MLG can see where they fit in after Blizzard announced WCS 2014. But does that make any sense? Maybe I'm just dense here, but if I were Blizzard and I'd find out that a tournament with hundreds of participants and thousands of live viewers could not happen because of an 8 player invitational, I sure as hell would try to see what I can do to make both happen instead of saying "Eh, bad luck, better tell us your dates earlier next time!". I'm not trying to say that MLG is the SC2-hating devil. But I do find the official reasoning for dropping SC2 to be rather.. odd, both from MLG's point of view as well as Blizzard's. You would be shocked how little power Blizzard has at the end of the day to force another business to do something. People act like they are all powerful and control all of SC2, but they can't make anyone move an event to another date. Plus the venues that were rented costs thousands(sometimes tens of thousands) of dollars just to secure for a weekend. It also needs to be done months and months in advance, sometimes a full year. And you can't get that money back. Once these events are booked, there might be nothing Blizzard can do to change the dates. And at that point, what do they do? Tell Redbull they can't show SC2 at their SC2 only event? Sometimes there is no good solution and you just take the best of the terrible choices you have. Allowing both events to take place seems like the obvious thing to do here, and only Blizzard could make that happen, since it is Blizzard in the first place that requires events to basically get permission before they take place. And your argument actually goes both ways: Everything has to be planned and paid for and worked for months in advance. You think MLG would just give up their main game for one of their big events just like that, just because an 8 player invitational happened to be on the same weekend? Wouldn't it be a huge deal to have to change plans, etc. due to the scheduling conflict? That is exactly what they did. They have a good relationship with Red Bull and decided to not step on their toes and just not have SC2 at this event. It's really not that crazy, it's really bad business to make the fans choose. They can always have SC2 at another event. I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that "Good relationship with Red Bull" is more important than "Main event of one of our big events". Of course I'm not MLG, and I might be missing something here. And I might be entirely wrong, too. But to me it just feels that there was way more going on in the background, and that MLG was neither surprised nor entirely unhappy about having to drop SC2. And that they did not pick it up again and now let go of their SC2 casters just confirms to me that they are not planning to return to the game in the near or intermediate future. You forget that it's Blizzard's decision to allow both tournaments to run at the same time. It seems like they didn't allow it. MLG literally isn't allowed to run an SC2 tournament if Blizzard isn't allowing them.
yah except DH:W and IEM are running at the same time this month
oh and WCG
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On November 15 2013 07:01 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 06:59 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:On November 13 2013 21:23 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:16 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:12 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:01 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 20:56 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 20:22 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 19:53 Grettin wrote:
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I don't think its about the fanbase/viewer numbers. Sure, Dota2 probably gets more viewers, but what Dota 2 has to offer is something that benefits MLG as well. For example, ticket sales to increase prize pools (like with this upcoming tournament), which makes the tournament even bigger.
Wasn't there some discussion awhile back about MLG having to pay to Blizzard for hosting tournaments? Yes, though that has been refuted by MLG, if I remember correctly. Then again, MLG said they initially cancelled SC2 from one of their events because Red Bull already signed up an event for that date, and you can't have 2 SC2 events at the same weekend. And the Red Bulle vent turned out to be an 8 player invitational. Soo.. Blizzard is completely fine with giving up a huge MLG tournament for an 8 player invitational, just because the latter was there first? And MLG is completely fine with that, too? Something just didn't add up, and it seemed like MLG used that as a convenient excuse (whether true or not) to ditch SC2 as a whole. The impression I got was that Blizzard doesn't play favorites and doesn't try to make events move to get out of each others way. They don't want to take the place of events communicating with each other. I said this before in a Dota 2 thread. MLG might come back to SC2, but right now they are taking a break. The community is doing the same. The Dota 2 community, though critical, has been overwhelmingly excited about the first big LAN in NA since TI3 and MLG is really doubling down on that. Both MLG and the SC2 community need to decide if they want to be together and not take the other for granted. I think a clean slate is best for both sides and MLG can see where they fit in after Blizzard announced WCS 2014. But does that make any sense? Maybe I'm just dense here, but if I were Blizzard and I'd find out that a tournament with hundreds of participants and thousands of live viewers could not happen because of an 8 player invitational, I sure as hell would try to see what I can do to make both happen instead of saying "Eh, bad luck, better tell us your dates earlier next time!". I'm not trying to say that MLG is the SC2-hating devil. But I do find the official reasoning for dropping SC2 to be rather.. odd, both from MLG's point of view as well as Blizzard's. You would be shocked how little power Blizzard has at the end of the day to force another business to do something. People act like they are all powerful and control all of SC2, but they can't make anyone move an event to another date. Plus the venues that were rented costs thousands(sometimes tens of thousands) of dollars just to secure for a weekend. It also needs to be done months and months in advance, sometimes a full year. And you can't get that money back. Once these events are booked, there might be nothing Blizzard can do to change the dates. And at that point, what do they do? Tell Redbull they can't show SC2 at their SC2 only event? Sometimes there is no good solution and you just take the best of the terrible choices you have. Allowing both events to take place seems like the obvious thing to do here, and only Blizzard could make that happen, since it is Blizzard in the first place that requires events to basically get permission before they take place. And your argument actually goes both ways: Everything has to be planned and paid for and worked for months in advance. You think MLG would just give up their main game for one of their big events just like that, just because an 8 player invitational happened to be on the same weekend? Wouldn't it be a huge deal to have to change plans, etc. due to the scheduling conflict? That is exactly what they did. They have a good relationship with Red Bull and decided to not step on their toes and just not have SC2 at this event. It's really not that crazy, it's really bad business to make the fans choose. They can always have SC2 at another event. I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that "Good relationship with Red Bull" is more important than "Main event of one of our big events". Of course I'm not MLG, and I might be missing something here. And I might be entirely wrong, too. But to me it just feels that there was way more going on in the background, and that MLG was neither surprised nor entirely unhappy about having to drop SC2. And that they did not pick it up again and now let go of their SC2 casters just confirms to me that they are not planning to return to the game in the near or intermediate future. You forget that it's Blizzard's decision to allow both tournaments to run at the same time. It seems like they didn't allow it. MLG literally isn't allowed to run an SC2 tournament if Blizzard isn't allowing them. And I was arguing that it would also have been in Blizzard's best interest to keep SC2 at MLG. I hope I don't need to explain why.
You're acting like you know what Blizzard's interests are. But what is certain is that WCS > All is Blizzard's interest. It just seems like Blizzard could give two sh*ts about MLG.
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On November 15 2013 07:03 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 07:01 Conti wrote:On November 15 2013 06:59 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:On November 13 2013 21:23 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:16 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:12 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 21:01 Conti wrote:On November 13 2013 20:56 Plansix wrote:On November 13 2013 20:22 Conti wrote:
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Yes, though that has been refuted by MLG, if I remember correctly.
Then again, MLG said they initially cancelled SC2 from one of their events because Red Bull already signed up an event for that date, and you can't have 2 SC2 events at the same weekend. And the Red Bulle vent turned out to be an 8 player invitational. Soo.. Blizzard is completely fine with giving up a huge MLG tournament for an 8 player invitational, just because the latter was there first? And MLG is completely fine with that, too? Something just didn't add up, and it seemed like MLG used that as a convenient excuse (whether true or not) to ditch SC2 as a whole. The impression I got was that Blizzard doesn't play favorites and doesn't try to make events move to get out of each others way. They don't want to take the place of events communicating with each other. I said this before in a Dota 2 thread. MLG might come back to SC2, but right now they are taking a break. The community is doing the same. The Dota 2 community, though critical, has been overwhelmingly excited about the first big LAN in NA since TI3 and MLG is really doubling down on that. Both MLG and the SC2 community need to decide if they want to be together and not take the other for granted. I think a clean slate is best for both sides and MLG can see where they fit in after Blizzard announced WCS 2014. But does that make any sense? Maybe I'm just dense here, but if I were Blizzard and I'd find out that a tournament with hundreds of participants and thousands of live viewers could not happen because of an 8 player invitational, I sure as hell would try to see what I can do to make both happen instead of saying "Eh, bad luck, better tell us your dates earlier next time!". I'm not trying to say that MLG is the SC2-hating devil. But I do find the official reasoning for dropping SC2 to be rather.. odd, both from MLG's point of view as well as Blizzard's. You would be shocked how little power Blizzard has at the end of the day to force another business to do something. People act like they are all powerful and control all of SC2, but they can't make anyone move an event to another date. Plus the venues that were rented costs thousands(sometimes tens of thousands) of dollars just to secure for a weekend. It also needs to be done months and months in advance, sometimes a full year. And you can't get that money back. Once these events are booked, there might be nothing Blizzard can do to change the dates. And at that point, what do they do? Tell Redbull they can't show SC2 at their SC2 only event? Sometimes there is no good solution and you just take the best of the terrible choices you have. Allowing both events to take place seems like the obvious thing to do here, and only Blizzard could make that happen, since it is Blizzard in the first place that requires events to basically get permission before they take place. And your argument actually goes both ways: Everything has to be planned and paid for and worked for months in advance. You think MLG would just give up their main game for one of their big events just like that, just because an 8 player invitational happened to be on the same weekend? Wouldn't it be a huge deal to have to change plans, etc. due to the scheduling conflict? That is exactly what they did. They have a good relationship with Red Bull and decided to not step on their toes and just not have SC2 at this event. It's really not that crazy, it's really bad business to make the fans choose. They can always have SC2 at another event. I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that "Good relationship with Red Bull" is more important than "Main event of one of our big events". Of course I'm not MLG, and I might be missing something here. And I might be entirely wrong, too. But to me it just feels that there was way more going on in the background, and that MLG was neither surprised nor entirely unhappy about having to drop SC2. And that they did not pick it up again and now let go of their SC2 casters just confirms to me that they are not planning to return to the game in the near or intermediate future. You forget that it's Blizzard's decision to allow both tournaments to run at the same time. It seems like they didn't allow it. MLG literally isn't allowed to run an SC2 tournament if Blizzard isn't allowing them. And I was arguing that it would also have been in Blizzard's best interest to keep SC2 at MLG. I hope I don't need to explain why. You're acting like you know what Blizzard's interests are. But what is certain is that WCS > All is Blizzard's interest. It just seems like Blizzard could give two sh*ts about MLG.
Of course I'm acting like I know what Blizzard's interests are. And so are you, right there in your own post. How else are we going to discuss this?
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On November 15 2013 07:03 Dodgin wrote:yah except DH:W and IEM are running at the same time this month oh and WCG
did you realize that DH and IEM happen at different hours?
I'm not sure about WCG, I guess that Activision-Blizzard change the rules after the MLG-RedBull incident?
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The headline for this should really have been "Axslav, Axeltoss get the axe"
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This is sad MLG why do you abandon us? 
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On November 15 2013 05:51 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 03:35 Trowa127 wrote:
People crying about MLG, guess what? You can't make money out of hosting Starcraft 2 tournaments. You think you are entitled to MLG throwing money down the drain just to entertain you? Uhm, the whole point of MLG is to entertain people...? If they stop supporting the stuff I enjoy, I stop supporting them. Easy as that. Do they care about that? Probably not, they evaluated the situation and came to the conclusion that it does not generate enough revenue/viewers when they produce a SC2 tournament in the current situation. This business decision and the the icy way with which it was not communicated did burn some bridges with the SC2 community, though, which may or may not hurt them in the future. We'll see.
Well, it's not like the SC2 community doesn't do its best to burn every bridge it finds either.
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On November 15 2013 07:38 illusiongamer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 07:03 Dodgin wrote:yah except DH:W and IEM are running at the same time this month oh and WCG did you realize that DH and IEM happen at different hours? I'm not sure about WCG, I guess that Activision-Blizzard change the rules after the MLG-RedBull incident?
If my memories are correct MLG didn't even register for a tournament that weekend in the first place.
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I really hope Axslav is picked up asap by another organisation - I've found his knowledge and commentary of SC2 very enjoyable to watch.
In fact (at least in my humble opinion!) He's one of the best colour commentators out there.
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On November 15 2013 18:01 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 07:38 illusiongamer wrote:On November 15 2013 07:03 Dodgin wrote:yah except DH:W and IEM are running at the same time this month oh and WCG did you realize that DH and IEM happen at different hours? I'm not sure about WCG, I guess that Activision-Blizzard change the rules after the MLG-RedBull incident? If my memories are correct MLG didn't even register for a tournament that weekend in the first place.
There is no rule, MLG opted to not have SC2 at the even, since Redbull was running one the same day.
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