• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:44
CET 18:44
KST 02:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
(325) 273-8255 Love spells In Anchorage, AK That w Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2006 users

Dear wins WCS Season 3 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
126 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
October 28 2013 04:22 GMT
#21
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:32 GMT
#22
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 28 2013 04:33 GMT
#23
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:35 GMT
#24
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:37:25
October 28 2013 04:35 GMT
#25
The finals were really one sided; I agree that Maru vs. Dear was amazing! Also, that was possibly one of the best crowds I have ever heard.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:37:21
October 28 2013 04:36 GMT
#26
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.


If anything I'd say Trap played the match-up weak and SK forced his hand. Not optimal. Not taking anything awy from SK because people know I love the guy, but these matches were pretty darn easy for me predict.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:40:12
October 28 2013 04:39 GMT
#27
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#28
Dear then followed almost immediately after with a warp prism full of zealots into Dear's main,


should be soulkeys main

nice writeup!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#29
On October 28 2013 13:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.


This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..

Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..

i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji
this is a quote
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#30
Dear then followed almost immediately after with a warp prism full of zealots into Dear's main, dealing even more damage while deftly holding off Soulkey's counter-attack with good micro.


soulkey


nice article

"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:48:36
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#31
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.


I had my mouth open all the time that happened. And this is why i watch sc2 pro games.
this is a quote
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#32
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 04:48 GMT
#33
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


No one can deny it.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:52:35
October 28 2013 04:50 GMT
#34
On October 28 2013 13:48 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


No one can deny it.

Amen.
this is a quote
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:56 GMT
#35
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


This. He's the favorite to win Blizzcon too imo, though of course now everyone will be gunning for him.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2013 04:57 GMT
#36
On October 28 2013 13:44 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.


This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..

Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..

i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji

I guess we'll find out in a few weeks because Dear is playing TaeJa in the first round of Blizzcon. I know Blizzcon is supposed to be stacked but it's still hard to believe some of the first round matches are only happening in the Ro16
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
October 28 2013 05:15 GMT
#37
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.

Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).

Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#38
On October 28 2013 14:15 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.

Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).

Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.


Trap's openings were horrendous against a player like SK's caliber. I don't know what he was thinking. He got no return in what he did.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#39
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.


bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 28 2013 05:29 GMT
#40
Dear living up to the talent and potential that made him a well-touted rookie before the transition to SC2.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#30
RotterdaM724
TKL 307
IndyStarCraft 107
BRAT_OK 87
SteadfastSC71
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 724
TKL 307
Reynor 215
ProTech123
IndyStarCraft 107
BRAT_OK 87
SteadfastSC 71
UpATreeSC 49
JuggernautJason49
MindelVK 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28594
Calm 3513
Horang2 1468
firebathero 244
Dewaltoss 60
Killer 55
Rock 43
scan(afreeca) 32
yabsab 13
Dota 2
Gorgc6681
qojqva3079
resolut1ontv 152
BananaSlamJamma103
Counter-Strike
adren_tv42
Other Games
Beastyqt576
ceh9381
Happy335
Lowko305
Liquid`VortiX161
Hui .161
QueenE54
Trikslyr52
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream5172
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 14
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 42
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• HerbMon 5
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV450
League of Legends
• Nemesis5627
Other Games
• Shiphtur182
• imaqtpie114
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 16m
ChoboTeamLeague
7h 16m
WardiTV Korean Royale
18h 16m
BSL: GosuLeague
1d 3h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 7h
The PondCast
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
6 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.