On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote: Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!
As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.
Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.
Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote: Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!
As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote: Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!
As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.
Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.
Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
If anything I'd say Trap played the match-up weak and SK forced his hand. Not optimal. Not taking anything awy from SK because people know I love the guy, but these matches were pretty darn easy for me predict.
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.
The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote: Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!
As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.
This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..
Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..
i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji
Dear then followed almost immediately after with a warp prism full of zealots into Dear's main, dealing even more damage while deftly holding off Soulkey's counter-attack with good micro.
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote: The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.
The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.
I had my mouth open all the time that happened. And this is why i watch sc2 pro games.
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote: Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!
As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.
This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..
Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..
i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji
I guess we'll find out in a few weeks because Dear is playing TaeJa in the first round of Blizzcon. I know Blizzcon is supposed to be stacked but it's still hard to believe some of the first round matches are only happening in the Ro16
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.
Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.
Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).
Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote: Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.
Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.
Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).
Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.
Trap's openings were horrendous against a player like SK's caliber. I don't know what he was thinking. He got no return in what he did.
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote: The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.
The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.