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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
October 28 2013 04:22 GMT
#21
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:32 GMT
#22
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
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On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 28 2013 04:33 GMT
#23
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:35 GMT
#24
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:37:25
October 28 2013 04:35 GMT
#25
The finals were really one sided; I agree that Maru vs. Dear was amazing! Also, that was possibly one of the best crowds I have ever heard.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:37:21
October 28 2013 04:36 GMT
#26
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.


If anything I'd say Trap played the match-up weak and SK forced his hand. Not optimal. Not taking anything awy from SK because people know I love the guy, but these matches were pretty darn easy for me predict.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:40:12
October 28 2013 04:39 GMT
#27
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#28
Dear then followed almost immediately after with a warp prism full of zealots into Dear's main,


should be soulkeys main

nice writeup!
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#29
On October 28 2013 13:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.


This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..

Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..

i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji
this is a quote
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#30
Dear then followed almost immediately after with a warp prism full of zealots into Dear's main, dealing even more damage while deftly holding off Soulkey's counter-attack with good micro.


soulkey


nice article

"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:48:36
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#31
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.


I had my mouth open all the time that happened. And this is why i watch sc2 pro games.
this is a quote
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
October 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#32
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 04:48 GMT
#33
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


No one can deny it.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 04:52:35
October 28 2013 04:50 GMT
#34
On October 28 2013 13:48 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


No one can deny it.

Amen.
this is a quote
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 28 2013 04:56 GMT
#35
On October 28 2013 13:47 dinosrwar wrote:
Dear #1 October Power Rank. What an amazing run.


This. He's the favorite to win Blizzcon too imo, though of course now everyone will be gunning for him.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 28 2013 04:57 GMT
#36
On October 28 2013 13:44 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:35 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:22 movac wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:43 Shellshock wrote:
Congrats Dear! awesome performance this weekend. Maru vs Dear was the series of the tournament!


As much as I want a Terran to win. It was very frustrating to see Maru refuse to make ghosts. As such he didn't deserve to win. I think Maru's TvT was by far more impressive than his TvP.


It's simply a style of play, it's exactly how I play my TvP. You forego ghosts and instead use a ton of multi pronged attacks with constant pressure. You can't afford ghosts if you want to do this style. You also have to go light on the vikings too. Goal is to have your units super spread out and be efficient in small numbers and just pick the opponent apart. And he damn well near did it successfully vs Dear too.


Defending that style is so fucking hard. In the entire world, only Dear and maybe Rain could have survived what Maru was doing in those games.


This is so true ! and maru style looks like how mkp plays it ..

Dear showed that he could survive and wont crack on the hyperaggressive drop-happy ghostless style ..

i still yet have to see if Dear can survive top tier ghost utilizers like taeja and jakji

I guess we'll find out in a few weeks because Dear is playing TaeJa in the first round of Blizzcon. I know Blizzcon is supposed to be stacked but it's still hard to believe some of the first round matches are only happening in the Ro16
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althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
October 28 2013 05:15 GMT
#37
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.

Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).

Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#38
On October 28 2013 14:15 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:32 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:19 StarStruck wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:16 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Soulkey absolutely dismantled Trap, so for Dear to destroy him like that really shows Dear's skill.


Trap plays differently. Please don't compare players like that.


Of course Trap and Dear have different styles, but still, beating Trap the way he did shows Soulkey is quite solid as ZvP--its not like it was considered a weak matchup for him before playing Dear.

Trap and Dear do have different styles, but they are also different calibres of players. No disrespect to Trap who is a quality player, but Dear is on a whole other level at the moment (and in general really).

Trap is a player that's been getting more solid, but is still primarily a superb PvZer and decent player all-around, whereas Dear is just a fucking badass.


Trap's openings were horrendous against a player like SK's caliber. I don't know what he was thinking. He got no return in what he did.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#39
On October 28 2013 13:39 awesomoecalypse wrote:
The best play of the entire weekend was Maru vs Dear game 1 was a craaazy sequence, where Maru was trying to drop Dear's main--Dear got off a feedback which nearly killed the Medivac, and then followed it up with a storm right on top of it, with a Phoenix chasing right behind. Maru boosted ahead just long enough to drop a marauder before the Phoenix could nab the Medivac, and then the Phoenix picked up the Marauder before it could kill probes.

The highspeed decision-making by both players during that sequence really showed how well they were playing. If anyone has a gif or vod, that would be amazing.


bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 28 2013 05:29 GMT
#40
Dear living up to the talent and potential that made him a well-touted rookie before the transition to SC2.
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