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Dear played the best protoss of the Starcraft 2 short history. Rain, Parting, sOs, Trap, Naniwa, MC are not at his level right now.
More than that, he played with "standard" builds. Nothing too fancy, nothing that you can put a nickname on it, but solid. Not solid like Rain "i-already-know-what-you'll-do-and-even-where-are-your-observers", but unpredictably solid.
The strenght of his play is his decision making. Who would go for a storm drop with that pressure on game 1 vs maru? The guy was barely alive and even so manage to kill two mineral lines worth of scv.
With that decision making Dear was able to play protoss reactively. Who plays Protoss reactively? Artosis and his guests on some episode about Protoss were talking how Protoss "can be played with a reactive, solid style like zerg and terran can". That's not true anymore. Dear raised the Protoss skill cap.
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Not at all surprised with Dear constantly being top on the korean GM league and how he looked in GSL. Big congratz to Dear!
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On October 28 2013 17:24 SorrowShine wrote:
Final 16 for WCS wtih 8T, 6P and 2Z looks a little bit disbalanced
And Zerg players are whiners when they say Terran is broken and Protoss is just too "1 A " to play
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an interesting fact that a lot of people probably missed is that dear said soulkey helped him prepare for wcs korea, so after hearing that, these results are more expected
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so sad I couldn't watch it, but to much going on and body needed sleep T.T . Congrats Dear ! Dear and Trap really seems to have come up with a few Protoss tricks.
The scary part about the 8 Terrans for Blizzcon is that they got their spots early on when Hellbats were still a thing, which also affected the Zergs. So Blizzcon finals can't tell much about the current state of the game.
oh yeah. Canadian audience is not epic ... they are legendary !
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On October 29 2013 03:27 Umuryum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 17:24 SorrowShine wrote:
Final 16 for WCS wtih 8T, 6P and 2Z looks a little bit disbalanced And Zerg players are whiners when they say Terran is broken and Protoss is just too "1 A " to play
Yes, because they are short sighted statements which clearly show those zerg players are just jumping on the idra "I lose so opponent imba" bandwagon, instead of having played all races and understanding the game from each side. Have you ever even played protoss? Good luck winning with 1A, because really, 1A just loses the game instantly if you're playing against half decent players.
The top 16 is such a small sample size too. And plenty of zergs have been performing very well in all kinds of tournaments. The WCS ranking, besides having a small sample size of only 16 players, is also the result of a year of starcraft. Only a few months ago, things like 4m really started to get figured out by zerg players (helped by the overseer buff). You can't argue that zerg is weak right now just because of the wcs ranking.
There is also still potential for a 3rd zerg player and a few other zergs were very close. JD and soulkey have, imo a far greater chance to win blizzcon than at least a handful of the other T and P players. If top zergs like life, leenock, drg hadn't had such problems adapting to hots initially I'm sure at least 1 or 2 of them would have been up there in the top 16. Only recently did we see life win IEM NY, drg's excellent performance against innovation in code s, etc...
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On October 28 2013 19:31 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 16:27 gOst wrote:
And yet another name pops up basicly out of nowhere and wins a big tourney. SC2 is just too easy. At the highest level of competition, all that determines match outcomes is luck. There will never be periods of dominance in sc2 as flash or jaedong had in bw, because sc2 is just too easy and random.
User was warned for this post It's quite funny that the guy got warned for basically having an opinion. Though Dear might not come out of nowhere, he did not have any sc2 success besides being part of innovation winning proleague. I was also stating all the time that he's a fluke, but I guess the outcome of this tournament proved me wrong. But a warning for this is simply wrong.
Good thing you aren't in charge of judging who has talent & who doesn't.  I view the MLG experience as a learning curve. He wasn't a favorite back then and he was just getting his feet wet in SC2 individual leagues at the time. New experience. Nothing out of the ordinary and he continued to get better. Besides that, a lot of you were focusing your attention on Bogus. If you only focus on one player you miss what the other guys are doing as they improve. There's a very good reason why STX beat Woongjin in the final and just look at the amount of depth on both teams at the time. Riding one to two players in PL is very hard based on the format.
In this day and age you have to go from tournament to tournament and ask, "What have you done for me lately?" That's just how it is and then you match-up their play styles and go from there.
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This whole legend of the fall is becoming eerily real with each passing year.
Anyway, congratulations to Dear, its always great seeing hardworking players finally reaping the fruit of their labor.
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On October 29 2013 06:26 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 19:31 boxerfred wrote:On October 28 2013 16:27 gOst wrote:
And yet another name pops up basicly out of nowhere and wins a big tourney. SC2 is just too easy. At the highest level of competition, all that determines match outcomes is luck. There will never be periods of dominance in sc2 as flash or jaedong had in bw, because sc2 is just too easy and random.
User was warned for this post It's quite funny that the guy got warned for basically having an opinion. Though Dear might not come out of nowhere, he did not have any sc2 success besides being part of innovation winning proleague. I was also stating all the time that he's a fluke, but I guess the outcome of this tournament proved me wrong. But a warning for this is simply wrong. Good thing you aren't in charge of judging who has talent & who doesn't. I view the MLG experience as a learning curve. He wasn't a favorite back then and he was just getting his feet wet in SC2 individual leagues at the time. New experience. Nothing out of the ordinary and he continued to get better.
You mean when he only got 5th place in MLG through the 128 player open bracket?
Yeah, it's OK to be a scrub and lose to noobs like Polt I guess. We all did it at some point, nothing to be ashamed of.
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Dear Crossing, crushing nerds in his path.
I can't wait to study his PvZ (PvT was basically maru refusing to ghost...). Being at the venue was magic.
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On October 29 2013 06:02 H0i wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 03:27 Umuryum wrote:On October 28 2013 17:24 SorrowShine wrote:
Final 16 for WCS wtih 8T, 6P and 2Z looks a little bit disbalanced And Zerg players are whiners when they say Terran is broken and Protoss is just too "1 A " to play a few other zergs were very close. [....] Only recently did we see life win IEM NY, drg's excellent performance against...
No, only tosses in the wcs ranking  :p
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I listened to the final match on my phone and all I hear was moaning and groaning about how strong Soulkey is and how this and that--followed by screaming and cheers and excitement and then followed by "Dear has taken the supply lead!"
Even without seeing the game with my eyes, my heard felt the excitement of that room.
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TvZ, TvP, PvZ
3 finals in WCS korea and three matchups no mirror.
Three season finals and three matchups no mirror.
Nice!
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... and three 4-0s, which tend to show how mental shape matters in those tournaments. In each of them a player was on godly fire (InnovatioN, Bomber, Dear all played insanely well in their respective season finals) and left no chance to their opponent in the finals, each time after a close semifinal (Inno Mvp was pretty damn good, Taeja Bomber pretty close, and Maru Dear... man my jaw is still dropping). Looks like once they had gotten to the finals, they felt like it was their trophy once the first game was in the bag and never let go of it.
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On October 29 2013 08:55 10bulgares wrote:
TvZ, TvP, PvZ
3 finals in WCS korea and three matchups no mirror.
Three season finals and three matchups no mirror.
Nice!
David Kim has done well
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Congratulations to blizzard, they did fantastic as always.
Congratulations to the casters, they cheered up very well.
And well done from canadians, was a fanatic crowd.
And GG for the players; Only 'AAA' level games.
I'm glad to be see all that!
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On October 29 2013 09:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:
... and three 4-0s, which tend to show how mental shape matters in those tournaments. In each of them a player was on godly fire (InnovatioN, Bomber, Dear all played insanely well in their respective season finals) and left no chance to their opponent in the finals, each time after a close semifinal (Inno Mvp was pretty damn good, Taeja Bomber pretty close, and Maru Dear... man my jaw is still dropping). Looks like once they had gotten to the finals, they felt like it was their trophy once the first game was in the bag and never let go of it.
To be fair, Dear vs Soulkey didn't look super onesided. Soulkey played well, just not well enough. It wasn't like Inno vs sOs where it felt like a stomp in all 4 games (including the tempest one).
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Wow...grats to Dear! Beating soulkey bad....
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On October 29 2013 11:42 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 09:09 [PkF] Wire wrote:
... and three 4-0s, which tend to show how mental shape matters in those tournaments. In each of them a player was on godly fire (InnovatioN, Bomber, Dear all played insanely well in their respective season finals) and left no chance to their opponent in the finals, each time after a close semifinal (Inno Mvp was pretty damn good, Taeja Bomber pretty close, and Maru Dear... man my jaw is still dropping). Looks like once they had gotten to the finals, they felt like it was their trophy once the first game was in the bag and never let go of it. To be fair, Dear vs Soulkey didn't look super onesided. Soulkey played well, just not well enough. It wasn't like Inno vs sOs where it felt like a stomp in all 4 games (including the tempest one).
:O That fourth game was actually much much closer than most people realized. sOs almost won through starving Innovation because Innovation couldn't take the 5th he wanted and he mined out all 3 of his bases and I think he only had the 10 o'clock or something. Even though the tempests are weak on their own, sOs played that game so well and made a strategy that would've been unviable almost viable. From all of the SCII games I've watched, that game was definitely one of the most jaw dropping and amazing games to watch. I became an instant sOs fan right after that game.
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