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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 01 2013 16:58 GMT
#41
On October 02 2013 01:50 GGzerG wrote:
Man, bad news after bad news, SC2 desperately needs some good news!


you mean like Mekia finding a team, or Sora getting som exposure by ramping through a qualifier that is important to Koreans taking out some stars or San finding a Team ?

The kespa team changes were announced, so the retirements and player cuts don't count as bad news anymore.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 01 2013 16:59 GMT
#42
On October 02 2013 01:50 GGzerG wrote:
Man, bad news after bad news, SC2 desperately needs some good news!


Most "bad" news are from Korea though, and most of them could've been expected due to the forced shift from bw to sc2.
Outside of Korea, I think sc2 is still as strong as ever. In fact, I have never seen as many up and comers in the competitive scene as right now with the WCS (they were probably there all the time, just not enough spotlight for them).
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
October 01 2013 17:05 GMT
#43
Coaches or players. Aside from oov, there's a one way flux of players atm. The flux is going outward. Ded gaem.
xyzåäö
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 01 2013 17:13 GMT
#44
Damn yoooouuuuuu, compulsory military service!!!

< / 3 Clide
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
TheCheapSkate
Profile Joined August 2011
Slovenia317 Posts
October 01 2013 17:31 GMT
#45
We'll miss you Clide <3
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
October 01 2013 17:34 GMT
#46
The best player in the universe is retiring, esports are dead as we know it.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
October 01 2013 17:35 GMT
#47
CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE Y SO GOOD? ?

This makes me sad. Thanks for all the great games and GLHF in the future <3
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#48
I'll never forget you not quite making it
The heart's eternal vow
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1946 Posts
October 01 2013 17:46 GMT
#49
GL Clide, will always remember you as part of Slayers
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
bouboule
Profile Joined March 2012
American Samoa62 Posts
October 01 2013 18:17 GMT
#50
he was doing bad job anyway it's a good news. look how flash is because of him.
Stephano
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#51
--- Nuked ---
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
October 01 2013 18:29 GMT
#52
Bye Cliiiiiide! GLHF
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 01 2013 18:43 GMT
#53
On October 02 2013 01:50 GGzerG wrote:
Man, bad news after bad news, SC2 desperately needs some good news!


Dude, that's plenty to be sad about for sure, but on the other hand, SC2 pro scene is downsizing to what it can sustain...

I mean, I'm an SC2 fan, and I still admit SC2 was less a thing than BW. Then, you can't feel bad (at least now, future will tell) that the scene is downsizing after the whole KeSPA scene switched...

There's still plenty of players, new ones with brilliant future step in (hello Sora ! ). It's just a shift toward a size that fits more the scene !

OT: Farewell Clide, I'll miss you
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 01 2013 18:52 GMT
#54
On October 02 2013 01:50 GGzerG wrote:
Man, bad news after bad news, SC2 desperately needs some good news!

Good news is that this is good for sc2.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
October 01 2013 18:53 GMT
#55
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 19:08:56
October 01 2013 19:07 GMT
#56
On October 02 2013 03:17 bouboule wrote:
he was doing bad job anyway it's a good news. look how flash is because of him.


Just like Coach Park was going to turn around EG right? Come on now. The things people believe.

On October 02 2013 03:53 bearhug wrote:
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying.


The downsizing of the KeSPA teams has very little to do with David Kim. Let's stop looking for scapegoats.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 01 2013 19:36 GMT
#57
On October 02 2013 03:53 bearhug wrote:
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying.


Kespa's switch from BW to SC2 almost doubled the Korean playerbase, but brought very little new money into the scene. Prior to Kespa joining SC2 the Korean SC2 scene was already pretty saturated, so it should be no surprise that a lot of players have to go. Furthermore we have to deal with Koreans and their pride.

This was to be expected and we'll probably see more Kespa retirements in a short time. If you want good news then look at the foreign SC2 scene.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
October 01 2013 19:39 GMT
#58
Awwwwh

such a shame..
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
October 01 2013 19:41 GMT
#59
It's because BoxeR left isn't it?! The SlayerS seems to always follow BoxeR
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
October 01 2013 20:06 GMT
#60
On October 01 2013 23:53 habeck wrote:
So many retires....

Try opening a business and hiring 15x more people than you need.
You're not going to be able to pay them well enough so some will quit.
Not all of them are going to be active because too many people are filling the same positions, so some will quit.
Some of them won't like the job, so they will quit.
And some will retire to go on and do other things with their lives, even though they loved the job.


It's not sensible to think that there wouldn't be a lot of retires.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
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