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On October 02 2013 01:58 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:50 GGzerG wrote:
Man, bad news after bad news, SC2 desperately needs some good news! you mean like Mekia finding a team, or Sora getting som exposure by ramping through a qualifier that is important to Koreans taking out some stars or San finding a Team ? The kespa team changes were announced, so the retirements and player cuts don't count as bad news anymore.
I think it's safe to say that Mekia's and Sora's signings are severely outweighed by the numerous retirements (bisu's and jangbi's hurting more than the rest) and/or the horrifying interviews (iloveoov's most notably) that have been released in the past few weeks.
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On October 02 2013 04:36 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 03:53 bearhug wrote:
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying. Kespa's switch from BW to SC2 almost doubled the Korean playerbase, but brought very little new money into the scene. Prior to Kespa joining SC2 the Korean SC2 scene was already pretty saturated, so it should be no surprise that a lot of players have to go. Furthermore we have to deal with Koreans and their pride. This was to be expected and we'll probably see more Kespa retirements in a short time. If you want good news then look at the foreign SC2 scene.
Koreans and their pride lol when there's a single nonkorean country that isn't worth shit at starcraft then you can talk
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He just aaid he not retire .... wtf that mean???
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ah.. i'm not retired.. 
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Clide  the best player ever is gone.
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On October 02 2013 05:14 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 04:36 Prog455 wrote:On October 02 2013 03:53 bearhug wrote:
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying. Kespa's switch from BW to SC2 almost doubled the Korean playerbase, but brought very little new money into the scene. Prior to Kespa joining SC2 the Korean SC2 scene was already pretty saturated, so it should be no surprise that a lot of players have to go. Furthermore we have to deal with Koreans and their pride. This was to be expected and we'll probably see more Kespa retirements in a short time. If you want good news then look at the foreign SC2 scene. Koreans and their pride lol when there's a single nonkorean country that isn't worth shit at starcraft then you can talk
I'm not talking about their pride in regards to their overall level of skill. I am talking about their pride in regardless to not losing face. Right now we have two Korean teamleague (GSTL and SPL) that are both a shadow of their former self, because they insist in having a eSF league and a Kespa league.
If SPL was to start tomorrow we would have two teamleagues with 5 teams participating in each. There is currently 13 relevant Korean teams, of which 6 of them (Kespa teams) is rapidly downsizing, so it would make perfectly sense to ditch SPL and GSTL and make one relevant league, but this is not going to happen. Just look at how they handled WCS KR S2 in terms of dual-broadcasting.
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Cliiiiideeeeeeeee, why you have to step down
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He had to do it sooner or later, it's not terrible news guys. I hope he comes back strong after that!
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On October 02 2013 09:15 jax1492 wrote:
artosis curse
Yeah it's powerful stuff. So I don't blame him for not returning after his military service. 
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In 2 years when he comes back, he'll get that GSL trophy
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On October 02 2013 10:46 Zenbrez wrote:
In 2 years when he comes back, he'll get that GSL trophy
Nah, he won't. LotV will still be around but with all the changes I wonder if they will still call it the GSL or if it's going to be something else.
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On October 02 2013 06:30 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 05:14 rauk wrote:On October 02 2013 04:36 Prog455 wrote:On October 02 2013 03:53 bearhug wrote:
Fire David Kim. The only way to prevent sc2 from dying. Kespa's switch from BW to SC2 almost doubled the Korean playerbase, but brought very little new money into the scene. Prior to Kespa joining SC2 the Korean SC2 scene was already pretty saturated, so it should be no surprise that a lot of players have to go. Furthermore we have to deal with Koreans and their pride. This was to be expected and we'll probably see more Kespa retirements in a short time. If you want good news then look at the foreign SC2 scene. Koreans and their pride lol when there's a single nonkorean country that isn't worth shit at starcraft then you can talk I'm not talking about their pride in regards to their overall level of skill. I am talking about their pride in regardless to not losing face. Right now we have two Korean teamleague (GSTL and SPL) that are both a shadow of their former self, because they insist in having a eSF league and a Kespa league. If SPL was to start tomorrow we would have two teamleagues with 5 teams participating in each. There is currently 13 relevant Korean teams, of which 6 of them (Kespa teams) is rapidly downsizing, so it would make perfectly sense to ditch SPL and GSTL and make one relevant league, but this is not going to happen. Just look at how they handled WCS KR S2 in terms of dual-broadcasting.
Even if we were to merge them into one team league the numbers wouldn't dramatically get better and you're talking about old money. Several of these teams have been suffering even in the BW days (and it doesn't have anything to do with how well well business is going in competitive gaming-- they're sponsors after all and it's just marketing). Doesn't hurt when you have the government backing you either. Such investments are normally the first thing to go when your business is in trouble (once again we're not talking about competitive gaming). Right now as everyone knows they're restructuring. Their focus has always been on Korea rather than global presence and right now the money can be used else where. The feud between GOM and KeSPA goes way back. Sometimes it takes a while for things to patch up.
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On October 02 2013 10:51 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:46 Zenbrez wrote:
In 2 years when he comes back, he'll get that GSL trophy Nah, he won't. LotV will still be around but with all the changes I wonder if they will still call it the GSL or if it's going to be something else.
I thought it would have been obvious I wasn't serious, considering he hasn't been a player for quite some time now.
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On October 02 2013 11:04 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:51 StarStruck wrote:On October 02 2013 10:46 Zenbrez wrote:
In 2 years when he comes back, he'll get that GSL trophy Nah, he won't. LotV will still be around but with all the changes I wonder if they will still call it the GSL or if it's going to be something else. I thought it would have been obvious I wasn't serious, considering he hasn't been a player for quite some time now.
You never know on these boards man. :V That's why I use smiley's when I'm making a point.
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I still remember him from the open seasons and his games against Leenock. That Jungle basin game was epic and makes me miss the old SCII 
