EPT6 possible balance changes - David Kim - Page 3
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:34 SarcasmMonster wrote: Where's the other thread? I'll delete if repost. This thread was faster, nobody was replying to the other thread so it got closed already | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
Thats a huge nerf to Widow Mine radius, might just make Mines obsolete. Would rather see them nerfed on ease of use somehow, longer burrow time or decreased health or something along those lines. Tank buff in the exact opposite direction of where it needs to go to replace Widow Mines. Tanks need to be more accessable or more forgiving, not 'stronger'. And I dont think such a small attack speed buff will help much. Oracle cost lowered is going to make proxy Oracle -> 3 Gate Void Ray all-ins even more of a bitch to hold. otherwise I definitely dont think this will accomplish his stated goal. DT movement speed bonus is scary, but a step in the right direction I think. Roach burrowed movement speed seems like a good idea, it's pretty underutilized imo so maybe we'll see more of it with this. | ||
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:30 tar wrote: holy crap! speed DTs xD They're literally Orc Blademasters now. | ||
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Zoku
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:35 Erik.TheRed wrote: Kind of confused of the logic behind oracle buff. It's only seeing use early game, so reduce gas cost by 50... and how is that going to make people decide to "keep building them"? In PvZ having any in the midgame before tempests are out is dumb, making void rays is always better. In PvT if you're continuing to make anything out of the stargate after an oracle into macro play (except for maybe phoenix) then you're going to lose. And in pvp, MSC will shut down any amount of oracles and there's just no real reason to build them after the initial 1 or 2 anyway. No one builds it and its one of the 2 protoss harassment units. Why wouldn't you try to make it more viable if no one uses it? Also, its a test map, folks. A test map. | ||
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syriuszonito
Poland332 Posts
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
Not even close. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
There are three questions I would like to ask David Kim though: 1. What effects will it have to constantly increase the move speed of units? 2. Will microing your dark templars not become too easy for the protoss and too frustrating for the opponent? 3. Is there an increase in variance in protoss match-ups after buffing dark templar? | ||
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Sajaki
Canada1135 Posts
The combination buff of Mech air and ground is going to make marauder hellbat so much better in tvp because now u can get viking attack AND hellion damage in 1 upgrade. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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MWY
Germany284 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9443 Posts
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Major
Mexico539 Posts
and tanks still wont be used vs zerg problem isnt tank itself vs zerg its just tank isnt good in today playstyle vs zerg cause mutal play is too strong for tanks. dunno what sup about speedy dts but .w.e i guess and mech upgrades in 1 < good | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:37 syriuszonito wrote: YES! Let the terran tears flow, tvz will no longer be a 3base rally into win anymore! Or opening for 2 match ups and then a bunch for TvT. | ||
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:36 Plansix wrote: No one builds it and its one of the 2 protoss harassment units. Why wouldn't you try to make it more viable if no one uses it? Also, its a test map, folks. A test map. My point is that I don't think reducing the gas cost by 50 is going to make it any more viable. Good protoss harassment is largely based around spending minerals, which is why zealot warp ins/ warp prisms are always going to be a more solid choice for playing a macro game. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:38 Sated wrote: Oh, and nothing to help solve the Mutalisk switch problem. Blizzard's advice on that seems to be: "Better be psychic, bro!" Nah, you just have to have stargates ready in PvZ if a muta switch is possible at all. It's hard but doable imo. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
Protoss has always been the "gimmick" race. Therefore, these buffs just follows that trend. Change is important, details can be kinked later. I'd much prefer a Stalker or Zealot buff, while simultaneously nerfing Colossus or Charge/Blink research speed to compensate. | ||
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