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Flash's Interview about SC2's current predicament - Page 2

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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 07:58:49
September 22 2013 07:56 GMT
#21
I actually think for a new player BW is easier to get into.

What I mean by that is that due to how UMS and team games were in BW, a lot more casual players could have a blast just playing with their friends, yet still got "into" the game and built up some appreciation for the professional play, even if it's on the most basic level (that's how BW/eSports in Korea worked, and still does, just with other games). In SC2 it's not that inviting and you feel more lonely, which makes it harder again for a complete newb to get into it.

I know of course that the question was aimed at 1v1 ladder, but still.
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
September 22 2013 08:00 GMT
#22

Terran is a race with limited diversity

flash..
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 22 2013 08:03 GMT
#23
On September 22 2013 17:00 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:
Show nested quote +

Terran is a race with limited diversity

flash..

But he is right. Terran does not even have a variety of all-ins, let alone macro play :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12627 Posts
September 22 2013 08:08 GMT
#24
On September 22 2013 16:19 Cheren wrote:
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Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


If it's so easy, why isn't he winning anything? I agree that SC2 is easier than BW but Taeja and Bomber are clearly playing better SC2 than Flash is.

pretty sure he means for beginners, not the tip top level
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 22 2013 08:09 GMT
#25
would like to see bw legends play more but it is a difficult road ...
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
September 22 2013 08:10 GMT
#26
Players are the ones who know the scene the most, right? When people around you are talking about the negativity all the time, players will feel ashamed. Who doesn’t know that SC2 is facing difficulties? But even so, telling negativity to the hardworking players will only increase their hardship. There are no players who don’t know about the deteriorating situation, but keeping listening to these will certainly make players exhausted and powerless.


He might as well talk about TL posters the last 3 years. Flash laying out the truth.
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 08:27:10
September 22 2013 08:26 GMT
#27
On September 22 2013 16:20 lolfail9001 wrote:

Q: Many people are starting to play SC2 recently.
Woah? Just woah.


In China. =)
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
September 22 2013 08:29 GMT
#28
Go FlaSh Fighting!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 22 2013 08:36 GMT
#29
God has spoken,listen chidren.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
September 22 2013 08:47 GMT
#30
Great interview, thanks! Flash brings up some good points. Saying that SC2 is dying helps to kill SC2. It's not, so don't! And it's kind of sad to me that Flash knew his friends would retire for a long time before they actually did. Good luck to Flash!

Since Flash says he gets good results at foreign tournaments, maybe we'll see him go to a bunch in the future
jjakji fan
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 08:52:52
September 22 2013 08:52 GMT
#31
This interview helped me remember how young Flash still is, even after all the years and titles.

I really hope he can get to the Ro4 and have a good result at the Season 3 finals, we really need Flash on Blizzcon!
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
September 22 2013 09:01 GMT
#32
On September 22 2013 16:30 tshi wrote:
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On September 22 2013 16:20 UmberBane wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:11 larse wrote:
Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


Ice cold, damn.

Yep, that's the point though. They wanted it to be this way.



welcome to todays gaming world, oh flash.... you have alot to learn
TheOne26
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia142 Posts
September 22 2013 09:02 GMT
#33
On September 22 2013 17:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:00 InfusedTT.DaZe wrote:

Terran is a race with limited diversity

flash..

But he is right. Terran does not even have a variety of all-ins, let alone macro play :D

terran used to have the most diversity back when WOL was released. the numerous nerfs over time though has made terran the most predictable and 1 dimensional races in terms of openings and mid game compositions. kinda sad...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 09:05:11
September 22 2013 09:03 GMT
#34
On September 22 2013 16:19 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


If it's so easy, why isn't he winning anything? I agree that SC2 is easier than BW but Taeja and Bomber are clearly playing better SC2 than Flash is.

Isn't he just talking about amateurs who are indeed starting to play SC2 and want some sort of advice to play well?
If he is, then that's indeed true, it's much easier in SC2 to reach a decent level where what you do at least look like and feels like what you watch in progames. Mechanically at least.
It's not like it's easy to earn money through playing this game though :D
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 09:06:38
September 22 2013 09:05 GMT
#35
I dont really trust flash tho..... hes the one that said 300 supply armys would be better? like wtf? him getting bombed out of DH I would imagine his head is in a bad spot right now.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
September 22 2013 09:07 GMT
#36
On September 22 2013 16:19 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


If it's so easy, why isn't he winning anything? I agree that SC2 is easier than BW but Taeja and Bomber are clearly playing better SC2 than Flash is.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=429573

this explains the reason why much better than i could ever hope to
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
September 22 2013 09:10 GMT
#37
On September 22 2013 16:50 Cheren wrote:
SC2 is pretty hard for a new player to get into though, not everyone has a BW background.


If more ppl had a Bw background even less would (still) be playing SC2. It's tough to drive a Prius once you had a Ferrari.
Just ask all the retirees.
11 years and counting- TL #680
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
September 22 2013 09:11 GMT
#38
On September 22 2013 16:19 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


If it's so easy, why isn't he winning anything? I agree that SC2 is easier than BW but Taeja and Bomber are clearly playing better SC2 than Flash is.


Skill ceiling is a lot lower, so a lot of players are normalized. Even the players do who shine are unnaturally short-lived (Taeja, Innovation).
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
September 22 2013 09:14 GMT
#39
On September 22 2013 18:11 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 16:19 Cheren wrote:
Flash: This game is very easy. Comparing to SC1, multitasking is easier and hotkeys are easier. So utilizing this part, everyone can play well.


If it's so easy, why isn't he winning anything? I agree that SC2 is easier than BW but Taeja and Bomber are clearly playing better SC2 than Flash is.


Skill ceiling is a lot lower, so a lot of players are normalized. Even the players do who shine are unnaturally short-lived (Taeja, Innovation).


oh give me a break......teaja showed how much more skilled he is at DH, innovations TvT looked terrible , Flash clearly isnt practicing as much so give it up fan boys.
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
September 22 2013 09:15 GMT
#40
At least he is realistic about sc2's decline. We could see him switch out to another sport in a year or 2.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
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