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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
I think currently the decay might actually be slightly too much. Since I started playing again my games have not been close at all. I'm stealing all the nerds' ladder points that they probably worked really hard for and I'm giving none back! But I guess it's making it a lot easier for me to get started playing consistantly =p | ||
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snexwang
Australia224 Posts
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Aquila-
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Aynophae
Spain44 Posts
On September 21 2013 08:58 Faust852 wrote: Only 2.9% of masters doing >20 games ? Any idea how many masters it represents ? I don't know if I'm missing something or this doesn't make sense. According to nios.kr here are ~4000 masters players in EU. 3% would make that only 120 players played more than 20 games per season. But just looking at the Masters players you can scroll past pages and pages of 100 Masters players each with a lot of games played (>20), so I don't know D: | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
 My former Master Rank in SEA was in active for like 2 seasons. Not absolute inactive but like 10 games only in those 2 seasons ( with like 60% ) win rate. When I did placement last season it went to plat ;_; | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12269 Posts
On September 21 2013 09:33 Aynophae wrote: I don't know if I'm missing something or this doesn't make sense. According to nios.kr here are ~4000 masters players in EU. 3% would make that only 120 players played more than 20 games per season. But just looking at the Masters players you can scroll past pages and pages of 100 Masters players each with a lot of games played (>20), so I don't know D: Nope, you're right. Someone on the Bnet forums pointed this out too, thanks for vetting =) I went back to my CSV and saw that my Games Played column only tabulated about 10,000 of the over 500,000 rows. This has been changed and verified, and the original post corrected. These are the new--accurate--values for players who have played at least 20 games last season, filtered to the Americas region: Bronze: 5,928 (17.02861082%) Silver: 18,636 (37.83498457%) Gold: 27,006 (58.20133187%) Plat: 15,348 (69.20059516%) Diamond: 10,683 (77.5929692%) Master: 4,723 (85.70132462%) Overall: 82,324 (47.88311318%) | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
 ((I don't play enough 1v1 not to be affected by decay, so I'm doomed to win all my games and never be promoted I guess? Sounds like fun :/ Raped a master some hours ago, he told me "gold really? lamer"... Edit: I wish it hadn't been changed too. I have 1 question though: does playing in team games affect decay in 1v1? (like, does it makes you an "active" player?) | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On September 21 2013 21:37 JustPassingBy wrote: While I don't think MMR decay is a problem (actually it is a good feature to have), I think the lack of rank decay is a problem, especially since tournament organizers like WCS are using the ladder rank as a requirement for participation. Bonus pool exists to serve as a decay for ladder rank. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On September 21 2013 07:15 SChlafmann wrote: I believe this has always been the case right? Thank you for the research BTW. This has not always been the case. It's a new development. While I've been hit by this, which has been a little annoying, it's probably a good thing. | ||
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Firestorm
Canada341 Posts
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baba44713
83 Posts
However, initial shock to the side, I think it's a terrific feature. Getting to play 10-15 matches against Silvers and Golds is a great way to get yourself back into shape without suffering the frustration of playing against players on the level you used to be two months before. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 23 2013 19:15 baba44713 wrote: Well, I was kinda shocked to see that after two months break I got dumped from high Plat all the way to Silver. However, initial shock to the side, I think it's a terrific feature. Getting to play 10-15 matches against Silvers and Golds is a great way to get yourself back into shape without suffering the frustration of playing against players on the level you used to be two months before. Balanced by the corresponding silvers and golds extensively depressed by facing players whose skill is still very much beyond them. It's fine to have some decay, but the cascading effects are already apparent. Returning plats playing other plats in gold league is fine for plats, but depressing for golds. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
On SEA I was Diamond (Ladder locked while I was dia) with GM mmr (Played lots in plat too O.o) Img . When I did my placement 2-3 seasons later it put me in silver. I think this shows you can be demoted by more then 1 league :p | ||
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Yrr
Germany805 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On September 23 2013 19:15 baba44713 wrote: Well, I was kinda shocked to see that after two months break I got dumped from high Plat all the way to Silver. However, initial shock to the side, I think it's a terrific feature. Getting to play 10-15 matches against Silvers and Golds is a great way to get yourself back into shape without suffering the frustration of playing against players on the level you used to be two months before. Wtf, a bit more respect for the Silver and Gold pls. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
They need to tone down the decay imo. Rank decay I'm fine with, but MMR decay is awfully hard to tune. Let people who took a break lose a few games like before... | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On September 23 2013 20:09 Yrr wrote: If you dont play a whole season you get a brand new MMR with 5 placement matches, so its no demotion. Brand new mmr but it takes forever to build it. Currently 34-0 on NA and still hitting diamonds (half brag half frustration at how slowly mmr increases). Sucks for me and sucks for those who are playing people well above their level because the mmr doesn't put them against masters faster. Same as the guy above ^^ Perhaps it was done as there are no mid-season demotions anymore. I guess it might free up more spots for people trying to rank up? It honestly feels bugged atm | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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