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Update on Clarity, Core, & Dragon

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[Core] Neurotic
Profile Joined August 2013
United States52 Posts
September 19 2013 22:29 GMT
#1
Hey TL,

Clarity and Core have worked things out behind the scenes. The main issue was one person within Clarity who did not have permission to dissolve a contract. Clarity has dealt with that matter internally and I'll leave it to them to release a statement on that. Both groups have been cooperative and worked together to resolve the situation. Dragon will remain on Clarity until his contract ends later this year. After that, any team, including Core, can make him an offer.

Dragon has been absolutely cooperative and understanding of the whole situation (he did not do anything wrong). I recommend that everyone support him and his stream.

TLDR: Drama is over, no law suits, everything handled professionally outside of the forums.

Best,
Justin
Executive Director of Core Gaming LLC
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 19 2013 22:34 GMT
#2
now what do i have to get upset about today??

glad it worked out.
EdgeSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
119 Posts
September 19 2013 22:36 GMT
#3
good to see things getting solved immediately
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TeflonArena
Profile Joined August 2013
Finland18 Posts
September 19 2013 22:36 GMT
#4
No offense intended Justin but nothing was handled professionally in this whole debacle.
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
September 19 2013 22:38 GMT
#5
Yay happy endings and communication/transparency! YAYYY
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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
September 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#6
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[Core] Neurotic
Profile Joined August 2013
United States52 Posts
September 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#7
On September 20 2013 07:36 TeflonArena wrote:
No offense intended Justin but nothing was handled professionally in this whole debacle.


None taken. It was resolved behind the scenes roughly 7 hours after the initial post, which is pretty fast for eSports. I guess it was professional relative to what usually happens
Executive Director of Core Gaming LLC
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 19 2013 22:42 GMT
#8
On September 20 2013 07:34 dAPhREAk wrote:
now what do i have to get upset about today??

glad it worked out.


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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
September 19 2013 22:44 GMT
#9
Clarity Gaming will also be releasing an official statement soon. As well as updates regarding the future of Clarity Gaming
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
September 19 2013 22:50 GMT
#10
Happy it worked out.
T P Z sagi
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
September 20 2013 00:29 GMT
#11
On September 20 2013 07:50 purakushi wrote:
Happy it worked out.

If it worked out, dragon would be playing for core right now. I'm glad nanocloud wasn't the one tried to steal dragon, cause he's notorious about stealing players from other team such as sca.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 20 2013 00:36 GMT
#12
I'm glad there aren't any lawsuits coming out, but this mess was just that.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 20 2013 00:37 GMT
#13
On September 20 2013 07:44 Seeker wrote:
Clarity Gaming will also be releasing an official statement soon. As well as updates regarding the future of Clarity Gaming

Good updates? No more bad news pls.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
September 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#14
On September 20 2013 09:37 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 07:44 Seeker wrote:
Clarity Gaming will also be releasing an official statement soon. As well as updates regarding the future of Clarity Gaming

Good updates? No more bad news pls.

Good? Why good? We need something to raise our pitchforks over right?

Anyways, atleast things are moving along.
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heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
September 20 2013 00:49 GMT
#15
honestly if we just had a sc2 drama subforum everything'd be okay
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
September 20 2013 00:58 GMT
#16
Glad to hear everything worked out great.
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KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
September 20 2013 01:01 GMT
#17
Good to hear.

Best of luck to both parties.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 20 2013 01:27 GMT
#18
Good stuff! Great to hear that the teams worked things out instead of resorting to other means
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
KoDo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States683 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 01:44:24
September 20 2013 01:42 GMT
#19
edit, nvm
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
September 20 2013 01:52 GMT
#20
Nice, happy to read about something that actually worked out
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10798 Posts
September 20 2013 02:25 GMT
#21
Glad that you guys settled your differences, I guess Dragon needs to be a little more deliberate in his actions. :-P
GL to both parties!
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TheTrueKerry
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada34 Posts
September 20 2013 03:11 GMT
#22
This could have all been worked out without anyone outside of core and clarity gaming knowing. The fact that there was an announcement of the "investigation" in r/starcraft speaks volumes to the professionalism used by both parties.

I'm glad everything worked out for everyone, and I hope that other teams as well as Core/Clarity have learned a great lesson here. It can be hard for a company to sponsor your team if they think at the first sign of issues your going to launch an "investigation" publicly. Hopefully both teams can rebound from this embarrassment.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 03:17:38
September 20 2013 03:15 GMT
#23
I'm glad in the end this was handled in a civilized manner. Kudos to both teams, though it could have been a bit smoother in terms of public appearance.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12809 Posts
September 20 2013 03:24 GMT
#24
I think the situation was handled well, despite the initial issue.
no biggie and it pretty much solved pretty quickly so nothing to pitchfork about
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
September 20 2013 03:25 GMT
#25
Well that's nice. Glad the problem was solved amicably. Best of luck to all parties in the future
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 20 2013 03:39 GMT
#26
So Dragon didnt wanted to leave Clarity after all. Or he doesnt have section in deal that he can leave Clarity (what is realy weird)
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
playLoud
Profile Joined April 2012
United States114 Posts
September 20 2013 03:43 GMT
#27
On September 20 2013 09:36 Jaaaaasper wrote:
I'm glad there aren't any lawsuits coming out, but this mess was just that.

yeah thank god there were no lawsuits over the rights to dragon lol
cCav
Profile Joined July 2013
62 Posts
September 20 2013 03:56 GMT
#28
On September 20 2013 12:11 OGHalcyon wrote:
This could have all been worked out without anyone outside of core and clarity gaming knowing. The fact that there was an announcement of the "investigation" in r/starcraft speaks volumes to the professionalism used by both parties.



I think of it more like protecting our investment in YongSoo. We spent a lot of money housing him and flying him about so I think publicly acknowledging the situation was appropriate. If we had caught wind of this before Core made the announcement of him joining their team then I am pretty confident that none of this would have been public.
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intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
September 20 2013 04:45 GMT
#29
YOLO
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Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
September 20 2013 04:57 GMT
#30
happy that stuff worked out.

but lets be honest.

Most of these teams dont have "legal" money funds.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
September 20 2013 06:07 GMT
#31
good to see that it all worked out!
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
September 20 2013 07:28 GMT
#32
Dragon has been absolutely cooperative and understanding of the whole situation (he did not do anything wrong). I recommend that everyone support him and his stream.


As far as I know Dragon had no idea what was going on when it blew up, at least no one had briefed him when I chatted with him.

Hopefully both parties have apologized to him for this inconvenience.
The curse is real
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
September 20 2013 07:36 GMT
#33
Can someone please tl;dr this incident so I can get caught up?
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
September 20 2013 07:36 GMT
#34
Lol @ all the people still trying to make a big thing out of it despite the fact it wasn't. Watch some TV if you're so into that drama nonsense.
Chinnro
Profile Joined February 2013
Australia47 Posts
September 20 2013 10:19 GMT
#35
On September 20 2013 10:52 KadaverBB wrote:
Nice, happy to read about something that actually worked out

Hmmmm....so maybe you locked the earlier thread prematurely? Yes, I think u did. GL to core. Prove all the doubters and skeptics wrong....
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pcpatchers
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia10 Posts
September 20 2013 11:09 GMT
#36
--- Nuked ---
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 20 2013 11:39 GMT
#37
but... drama?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 20 2013 11:49 GMT
#38
On September 20 2013 16:36 Erraa93 wrote:
Can someone please tl;dr this incident so I can get caught up?


Core wants Dragon but Dragon has contract with Clarity
Core talks to wrong Clarity guy who decides to release Dragon
Core announces Dragon as their player
Right guy on Clarity goes nonono
Now we wait

I think that's about it
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Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
September 20 2013 12:03 GMT
#39
And he had no idea?^^
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 17:29:38
September 20 2013 15:59 GMT
#40
Glad everything has been resolved!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
September 20 2013 16:36 GMT
#41
Thanks for the update...
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