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On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period.
STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
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On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
Should have bought a yacht and tweeted as STX that you bought it because of their support for eSports, though!
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On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2.
Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions.
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I hope so badly this is not the end of prime! 
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On September 01 2013 19:43 mrjpark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 18:15 Panozen wrote:God damned LoL pro league . Are there any strong teams left in gstl now? Well, Axiom-Acer just got Innovation, so...
Innovation already peaked. Will be a strong team but wont be a superteam.
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On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions.
Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
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On September 02 2013 06:06 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions. Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
And this argument is supposed to tell us it has nothing to do with the state of SC2? Like you said, state of SC2 is always bad, and now sugar high is over. There will probably be no SC2 poleague in the future, GSTL won't find sponsors, star SC2 players become bounty hunters to snatch those remaining foreign tourny prizes, and average players retire or migrate to LoL.
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On September 02 2013 06:06 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions. Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
I didn´t said it is something new. I said you should think about this when analysing the scene.
If it´s new or old doesn´t matter.
BTW, it was not a "SC2 is dying", it was a "Put all variables on your equation".
Lets just make a bad relation,
- Imagine that the heat (Miami heat) franchise just brake down today magically.
- Tomorrow you´ll have a lot of people wanting to buy the franchise, because it generates profit.
- This is something that show that a scene have health.
Thats not the case of SC2, so the scene needs to develop first to be attractive to sponsors, be profitable.
And it should be considered, not just "meh. it was always like that".
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On September 01 2013 10:30 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious. see this is a great tweet just to make a point, i'm going to steal it and see how many RTs I get
I really don't think so...
The KeSPA champions got fucked, so they are going to eSF to stay alive.
eSF right now is being treated like the minor leagues, or like a secondary pro league that just isn't as famous or established.
That's what they are, and that's where SouL has opportunity, so ofc, why not?!
IM needs money. They can't get anything from eSF, and KeSPA is the place to be if you're going to be professional. They, of all teams, have so much reason to join KeSPA. Prime and MVP are doing it more to reastablish themselves. They need a jump start in order to not only remain healthy, but also to see progress and thrive in professional eSports.
In my honest opinion, eSF has done what they needed to by sustaining the eSports scene for this long.
Their use has pretty much expired, and it's just a matter of time before GOM, and the rest of eSF have partnerships with KeSPA.
Yes, there are parts of this news that are bad (unsettling roots, etc) but this is not bad news. This is normal and will lead to progress. All parties will benefit this way, especially since its only a few teams at first and not all teams leaving eSF at once.
This will help keep stability throughout this transitive period on Korean SC2.
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Although Prime MVP and IM leave eSF does that mean they will join KeSPA?
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wow...that's actually quite surprising. Anyone have any information on why those teams left eSF?
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On September 05 2013 01:35 fireforce7 wrote:
wow...that's actually quite surprising. Anyone have any information on why those teams left eSF?
Most likely financial issues, IM and MVP are both really, really big teams with a lot of successful players and tons of sponsors (more so IM), but they still can't afford to pay salaries to their players, KeSPA provides them that stability they need at this point. Prime has had financial problems since its inception and had tried hard but been unsuccessful in getting more sponsors, they also need financial help.
Its only logical this happened, and I expect more Korean teams and eventually GOM to switch to KeSPA and eSF to dissolve, eSF has served its purpose but its time is up.
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