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United States33388 Posts
Source: ThisIsGame 1, Source: ThisIsGame 2
IM, Prime, MVP leave eSF
LG-IM, Prime, and Team MVP have cancelled their registration to the eSF.
Soul joins eSF
Soul (former STX Soul) has joined the Esports Federation. Head Coach Kim Kim Gi stated "I'm very happy to join the eSF. We will work to create a good esports culture, and we'll try to attain the greatest result in GSTL alongside our Proleague victory. I believe the eSF and Soul can do a lot of things together."
The eSF stated "We welcome SOUL into the eSF, and we will help help the players so they can stably compete in the GSTL and participate in foreign tournaments."
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Well thats nice for them. i hope they can find sponsors.
With so many players leaving Soul , does anyone know their current roster list?
EDIT: so sad about all these teams leaving though 
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United States23455 Posts
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious.
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esf becomes a very poors man kespa
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On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious.
Madness. Cats and dogs, living together... what is the world coming to?
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United States33388 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious.
see this is a great tweet
just to make a point, i'm going to steal it and see how many RTs I get
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France7248 Posts
lol, Kespa & esf should just merge at this point, such a mess now and so ridiculous...
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
At this point I don't even want to react to what's going on in Korea with anything besides uncontrolled laughter.
So thusly EHEUHEUHEUHEUUE.
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Fionn just make a Twitter already
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+ Show Spoiler [Original post] +It's funny how all you people assume IM is going to proleague since they're not participating in GSTL. They have great money problems wince they have no main sponsor, that's probably the reason they're not participating in Proleague. Most IM players don't get paid, and those that do the money from from the Coach's pocket. Everyone's making all these disbanding rumours, they should be making them for these eSF teams...
EDIT: NVM, ignore that, didn't read IM and Prime quit the eSF and the other new rumours/dvelopments.
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On September 01 2013 10:30 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious. see this is a great tweet just to make a point, i'm going to steal it and see how many RTs I get
Oh. You're that kind of person.
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United States23455 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:33 Gorribal wrote:
It's funny how all you people assume IM is going to proleague since they're not participating in GSTL. They have great money problems wince they have no main sponsor, that's probably the reason they're not participating in Proleague. Most IM players don't get paid, and those that do the money from from the Coach's pocket. Everyone's making all these disbanding rumours, they should be making them for these eSF teams...
IM has two League teams. They want to join KeSPA to play in the LoL Proleague. They just rearranged their entire League roster and their #2 team made the Code A finals of Korean LoL.
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On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious.
Perhaps the Benny Hill theme would be somewhat appropriate?
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On September 01 2013 10:33 Gorribal wrote:
It's funny how all you people assume IM is going to proleague since they're not participating in GSTL. They have great money problems wince they have no main sponsor, that's probably the reason they're not participating in Proleague. Most IM players don't get paid, and those that do the money from from the Coach's pocket. Everyone's making all these disbanding rumours, they should be making them for these eSF teams...
Why would IM leave GSTL if they're not joining proleague/kespa, the only reason would be they're disbanding. They're not disbanding so they will join proleague/kespa. Seems fairly obvious to me.
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I wonder how they will do in GSTL without Innovation, Classic, Mini or Hyvaa. This could be rather interesting.
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On September 01 2013 10:33 Gorribal wrote:
It's funny how all you people assume IM is going to proleague since they're not participating in GSTL. They have great money problems wince they have no main sponsor, that's probably the reason they're not participating in Proleague. Most IM players don't get paid, and those that do the money from from the Coach's pocket. Everyone's making all these disbanding rumours, they should be making them for these eSF teams...
What do you mean you people??
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:37 Josh_Video wrote:
I wonder how they will do in GSTL without Innovation, Classic, Mini or Hyvaa. This could be rather interesting.
It's all on you trap. No pressure you'll probably be the main reason whether soul will find a sponsor or not.
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Oh man Prime. Please let this be good.
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On September 01 2013 10:40 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:37 Josh_Video wrote:
I wonder how they will do in GSTL without Innovation, Classic, Mini or Hyvaa. This could be rather interesting. It's all on you trap. No pressure you'll probably be the main reason whether soul will find a sponsor or not.
Yeah, I guess it will be. I'm also a bit worried that, without a sponsor, will they even be able to last long enough to reach the GSTL finals?
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everything is being turned upside down
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What exactly does this mean for the three teams out of eSF?
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As a side note I'm now preparing myself to yell " KESPAAAAAA " every time a IM, MVP or Prime player wins.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:42 INNI wrote:
What exactly does this mean for the three teams out of eSF?
There are stirring of a proleague for league of legends, MVP and IM both have two league teams and prime are recruiting for one. This likely means all three are joining kespa for this league proleague
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On September 01 2013 10:44 Dodgin wrote:
As a side note I'm now preparing myself to yell " KESPAAAAAA " every time a IM, MVP or Prime player wins.
zomg the elephant in the room article is going to finally be proven true <_>
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This move makes me so fucking hyped and excited for proleague I can't wait for next season of proleague to start. I can't imagine they would delay/postpone it now that they have a stable set of teams ?
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On September 01 2013 10:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:44 Dodgin wrote:
As a side note I'm now preparing myself to yell " KESPAAAAAA " every time a IM, MVP or Prime player wins. zomg the elephant in the room article is going to finally be proven true <_>
They will be counterfeit elephants.
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even as the korean scene falls to pieces around them the teams are still stabbing each other in the back segregating the scene in to 2 organisations. how many teams have to completely die before they stop all acting like idiots? ;o
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On September 01 2013 10:44 Dodgin wrote:
As a side note I'm now preparing myself to yell " KESPAAAAAA " every time a IM, MVP or Prime player wins.
I'm surprised someone hasn't yelled KESPAAAAAAAAAAAAA in that thread already
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I'm so confused as to why prime is leaving. Why would KeSPA want them? They'll get so destroyed in pro league unless something changes drastically.
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ESF should just swallow their pride and disband (the organization) and let their teams join Kespa. I dont know what FXO and ST are waiting for, get off the ship already, its half-way sunk.
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On September 01 2013 10:48 TommyP wrote:
I'm so confused as to why prime is leaving. Why would KeSPA want them? They'll get so destroyed in pro league unless something changes drastically.
Why WOULDN'T KeSPA want them? Them being in proleague will only help them, as they can get a stable major sponsor with KeSPA's help.
*them being prime in every case
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On September 01 2013 10:49 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:48 TommyP wrote:
I'm so confused as to why prime is leaving. Why would KeSPA want them? They'll get so destroyed in pro league unless something changes drastically. Why WOULDN'T KeSPA want them? Them being in proleague will only help them, as they can get a stable major sponsor with KeSPA's help.
Because all they are is a SC2 team with a small roster that got destroyed in a weak GSTL last season
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It's K, ST and Ax-Acer are going to carry eSF, don't you even worry.
Edit: In the interest of full disclosure, I'm mainly hating on KeSPA for sentimental reasons -- I actually like their new president, and the whole situation with the Korean gov't is probably what the Korean scene needs to stop it from collapsing completely. The only things I dislike about them currently is how entirely terrible the production of Proleague has been thus far, and their fanboys. :p
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On September 01 2013 10:48 SearchEU wrote:
KESPAAAAAAAAAAAAA
did i just... get a gold from it? wat.
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On September 01 2013 10:49 iLoveKT wrote:
ESF should just swallow their pride and disband (the organization) and let their teams join Kespa. I dont know what FXO and ST are waiting for, get off the ship already, its half-way sunk.
Too little gain to jump the ship, esp. since none of them have LoL teams & PL is delayed & it might be the last SC2 PL anyways. 45k ain't chump change even for a team.
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On September 01 2013 10:51 SearchEU wrote:did i just... get a gold from it? wat.
Sometimes the simplest comments are the best ones
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United States97276 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:44 Dodgin wrote:
As a side note I'm now preparing myself to yell " KESPAAAAAA " every time a IM, MVP or Prime player wins.
This is a dream come true for me
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 01 2013 10:51 VisonKai wrote:
It's K, ST and Ax-Acer are going to carry eSF, don't you even worry.
I don't even think axiom or acer are actually in esf, they just play in GSTL. Having startale on their side is a bit surprising though maybe they don't want to enter league yet.
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eSF teams should all join together and become the biggest team ever, then they can join Kespa and fly people all around the world to make da money.
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On September 01 2013 10:53 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:51 VisonKai wrote:
It's K, ST and Ax-Acer are going to carry eSF, don't you even worry. I don't even think axiom or acer are actually in esf, they just play in GSTL. Having startale on their side is a bit surprising though maybe they don't want to enter league yet.
I like to think of eSF vs KeSPA as GSTL vs Proleague.
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On September 01 2013 10:53 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:51 VisonKai wrote:
It's K, ST and Ax-Acer are going to carry eSF, don't you even worry. I don't even think axiom or acer are actually in esf, they just play in GSTL. Having startale on their side is a bit surprising though maybe they don't want to enter league yet.
ST disbanded their league team a while ago due to salary disputes
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Thanks Dodgin  !
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no tournament this weekend, might as well enjoy some drama
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We are seeing the beginning of a new Era. We are seeing the beginning of Innovation owning some serious face once again.
We are seeing the rise of a new Proleague with the elite teams. We are seeing a new SOUL emerge for ESF. An interchange of blood. A mingling of two different and opposite worlds. The ESF. The KesPA. Two races ready to breed and to become hybrid. A new transformation.
Give it up... This is big guys!!!
The future of SC2 si coming!!!!
HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE!!!!
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On September 01 2013 10:59 ThePrince wrote:
We are seeing the beginning of a new Era. We are seeing the beginning of Innovation owning some serious face once again.
We are seeing the rise of a new Proleague with the elite teams. We are seeing a new SOUL emerge for ESF. An interchange of blood. A mingling of two different and opposite worlds. The ESF. The KesPA. Two races ready to breed and to become hybrid. A new transformation.
Give it up... This is big guys!!!
The future of SC2 si coming!!!!
HYPEHYPEHYPEHYPEHYPE!!!!
An admirable attempt to inject positivity.
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On September 01 2013 10:51 SearchEU wrote:did i just... get a gold from it? wat.
lol....
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On another note Life remains #1 because why not
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This is getting borderline ridiculous...
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Nestea!!!!!!
YOU LET ME DOWN CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
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On September 01 2013 11:01 Zealously wrote:
On another note Life remains #1 because why not
Now this is a man I can get along with.
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On September 01 2013 11:02 Disengaged wrote:
Nestea!!!!!!
YOU LET ME DOWN CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
Nestea is on his honeymoon, no time for korean esports politics.
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On September 01 2013 11:02 Disengaged wrote:
Nestea!!!!!!
YOU LET ME DOWN CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
I know D:
eSF player rep is going to Kespa, lol.
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On September 01 2013 11:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:02 Disengaged wrote:
Nestea!!!!!!
YOU LET ME DOWN CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE Nestea is on his honeymoon, no time for korean esports politics.
hey, hey, hey. he was the elected player spokesperson for esf. didn't want to be in town when this deal went public.
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On September 01 2013 11:03 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:01 Zealously wrote:
On another note Life remains #1 because why not Now this is a man I can get along with.
He might be, or close to it if everyone keeps leaving lol (and if Bomber goes back to his old self)
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On September 01 2013 11:06 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:03 VisonKai wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Zealously wrote:
On another note Life remains #1 because why not Now this is a man I can get along with. He might be, or close to it if everyone keeps leaving lol (and if Bomber goes back to his old self)
Blasphemy. Life has always been #1.
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The SC2 world is going through some crazy upheavals recently.
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I just hope this gets IM the LG deal and w/e money they are owed.
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Massive shake-up going on with SC2 in Korea :s
Hopefully this will help Soul find a new sponsor, as well as IM.
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On September 01 2013 11:08 Diaresta wrote:
Massive shake-up going on with SC2 in Korea :s
Hopefully this will help Soul find a new sponsor.
It would be kind of funny if Soul finds a sponsor before Prime.
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
it doesn't make sense for prime to leave
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On September 01 2013 11:07 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:06 Thrillz wrote:On September 01 2013 11:03 VisonKai wrote:On September 01 2013 11:01 Zealously wrote:
On another note Life remains #1 because why not Now this is a man I can get along with. He might be, or close to it if everyone keeps leaving lol (and if Bomber goes back to his old self) Blasphemy. Life has always been #1.
#1 Most Unreliable ZvZ kekeke
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 01 2013 11:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The SC2 world is going through some crazy upheavals recently.
Hopefully things settle down a little after all of this
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Well, after all, absolutely zero team disbanded.
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On September 01 2013 11:15 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The SC2 world is going through some crazy upheavals recently. Hopefully things settle down a little after all of this
It's already settling back into its proper order. Bomber just nuked all his vikings on stream by accident and lost 30 seconds later to a Protoss deathball.
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So this means they won't compete in the GSTL? That's... catastrophic...
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On September 01 2013 11:15 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The SC2 world is going through some crazy upheavals recently. Hopefully things settle down a little after all of this
My optimistic prediction is that teams get their finances and LoL team details in order after all of this and stabilize. Worst case scenario would be full-out civil war between GOM and KeSPA.
*My prediction on civil war is almost never going to happen*
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On September 01 2013 11:19 StarMoon wrote:
So this means they won't compete in the GSTL? That's... catastrophic...
I think the word you're looking for is Cataclysmic
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On September 01 2013 11:20 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:15 Zealously wrote:On September 01 2013 11:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
The SC2 world is going through some crazy upheavals recently. Hopefully things settle down a little after all of this My optimistic prediction is that teams get their finances and LoL team details in order after all of this and stabilize. Worst case scenario would be full-out civil war between GOM and KeSPA. *My prediction on civil war is almost never going to happen*
That's not going to happen with WCS' no-compete rule, lol. GSTL is already dead by the looks of it, though this season might be interesting, so I wouldn't even count that.
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ouch...is this beginning of the end for GomTV?
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see what happens if nestea take a month break from sc2 ? THE DOWNFALL OF ESPORTS !!
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Can't wait to see how well MVP does with that Kespa training regime!
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It's a great move for Prime, IM and MVP because they want to get their LoL teams involved with KeSPA. I'm excited to see them participate in Proleague, IM especially. But I admit, it does really suck for GSTL because 3 amazing teams have left i t.
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On September 01 2013 11:35 ssxsilver wrote:
Can't wait to see how well MVP does with that Kespa training regime!
Because training 8-12 hours a day is exactly what he needs to fix his physical ailments... (unless you mean the team mvp in which I doubt it will do much, if anything).
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On September 01 2013 11:39 RuskiPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:35 ssxsilver wrote:
Can't wait to see how well MVP does with that Kespa training regime! Because training 8-12 hours a day is exactly what he needs to fix his physical ailments... (unless you mean the team mvp in which I doubt it will do much, if anything).
That comment is actually hilarious if you are talking about the player.
After all, Mvp used to be on a KeSPA team... add in the fact that he's one of the only players who does not live at the teamhouse (he lives with his girlfriend) and it becomes apparent that Mvp won his 4 GSLs on the back of... well, practice at home under his own schedule and motivation. If anything, Mvp is the example for anti-KeSPA practice
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Dang, and usually Saturdays are quiet in Esports. T_T
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On September 01 2013 11:49 Entirety wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 11:39 RuskiPanda wrote:On September 01 2013 11:35 ssxsilver wrote:
Can't wait to see how well MVP does with that Kespa training regime! Because training 8-12 hours a day is exactly what he needs to fix his physical ailments... (unless you mean the team mvp in which I doubt it will do much, if anything). That comment is actually hilarious if you are talking about the player. After all, Mvp used to be on a KeSPA team... add in the fact that he's one of the only players who does not live at the teamhouse (he lives with his girlfriend) and it becomes apparent that Mvp won his 4 GSLs on the back of... well, practice at home under his own schedule and motivation. If anything, Mvp is the example for anti-KeSPA practice
Yea I was actually saying that in jest. I thought it was pretty obvious. -.-
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juicyjames
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What happened that caused Prime and IM, two super competitive teams to leave....
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On September 01 2013 13:12 AnTaCOrrAllE wrote:
What happened that caused Prime and IM, two super competitive teams to leave....
LoL Proleague
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I've always wanted IM to join KeSPA and keep LG as their main sponsor. But from the look of things after the dust has settled KeSPA hasn't become more powerful than before, losing their league team champion and also their ace to a foreign team...
Ah well, at the very least I hope IM will be LG-IM for the long term after this. KeSPA please help them achieve this!
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IM and Prime forever! 100% Support
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Merge the leagues or get teams to participate in both already.
Fuck! D=
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My theory is that Blizzard has played this eSF vs Kespa thing so well that it scarily resembles the Starcraft Storyline.
Let eSF be zerg and Kespa be protoss
Kespa was winning until they were swarmed by eSF
Then Blizzard decided to create a hybrid breed by incorporating eSF into Kespa and vice-versa
Doesn't this sound familiar guys, now I have to decide who Terrans are (the community?)
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wtf is Soul doing joining a sinking ship? What can they possibly gain from joining an undermanned esf?
edit: guessing they got kicked for not having a sponsor/LoL team
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Okay, see, foreign players aren't quite as skilled as Koreans, but at least the Foreign scene isn't doing its damndest to kill itself off.
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On September 01 2013 10:55 wozzot wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:53 Fusilero wrote:On September 01 2013 10:51 VisonKai wrote:
It's K, ST and Ax-Acer are going to carry eSF, don't you even worry. I don't even think axiom or acer are actually in esf, they just play in GSTL. Having startale on their side is a bit surprising though maybe they don't want to enter league yet. ST disbanded their league team a while ago due to salary disputes
Ironically they were one of the very, very first teams to get into League in Korea. I believe they were there from the very beginning. I believe that was the team that Fruitdealer founded in early 2012.
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On September 01 2013 10:58 skyflyfish wrote:
no tournament this weekend, might as well enjoy some drama
Ha so true
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i understand mvp and im wanna play in SPL but whats with Prime ???
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God damned LoL pro league . Are there any strong teams left in gstl now?
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So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
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On September 01 2013 18:15 Panozen wrote:God damned LoL pro league . Are there any strong teams left in gstl now?
Well, Axiom-Acer just got Innovation, so...
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Wow, Mr. Chae was deffinitely right.. Korea needs more WCS-point earning Tournaments, cause otherwise there will be a lot of disbands in the region there..
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Sc2 doesn't need this right now.
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On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period.
STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
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On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
Should have bought a yacht and tweeted as STX that you bought it because of their support for eSports, though!
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On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry.
Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2.
Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions.
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I hope so badly this is not the end of prime!
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On September 01 2013 19:43 mrjpark wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 18:15 Panozen wrote:God damned LoL pro league . Are there any strong teams left in gstl now? Well, Axiom-Acer just got Innovation, so...
Innovation already peaked. Will be a strong team but wont be a superteam.
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On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions.
Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
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On September 02 2013 06:06 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions. Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
And this argument is supposed to tell us it has nothing to do with the state of SC2? Like you said, state of SC2 is always bad, and now sugar high is over. There will probably be no SC2 poleague in the future, GSTL won't find sponsors, star SC2 players become bounty hunters to snatch those remaining foreign tourny prizes, and average players retire or migrate to LoL.
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On September 02 2013 06:06 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 03:33 Taipoka wrote:On September 02 2013 03:03 Fischbacher wrote:On September 01 2013 19:41 Proseat wrote:
So I guess Soul lost their STX corp sponsorship and thus decided to join eSF? Just to think they were the winners of last season... Oh well. The eSF teams that left obviously are going to join KeSPA and Proleague.
Its not so much that they lost their STX sponsorship and more that STX is in the process of going bankrupt. STX (the company) might very well not exist for long, period. STX Souls losing their sponsor has nothing to do with the state of SC2 and everything to do with the state of the global economy / shipping industry. Ofc it has to do with the state of SC2. Not about STX going down, but with no sponsor running to get the proleague champions. Korean teams have had difficulty finding sponsors since the dawn of SC2. Theres nothing new here.
I didn´t said it is something new. I said you should think about this when analysing the scene.
If it´s new or old doesn´t matter.
BTW, it was not a "SC2 is dying", it was a "Put all variables on your equation".
Lets just make a bad relation,
- Imagine that the heat (Miami heat) franchise just brake down today magically.
- Tomorrow you´ll have a lot of people wanting to buy the franchise, because it generates profit.
- This is something that show that a scene have health.
Thats not the case of SC2, so the scene needs to develop first to be attractive to sponsors, be profitable.
And it should be considered, not just "meh. it was always like that".
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On September 01 2013 10:30 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 10:28 Fionn wrote:
So the GSTL champions are going to KeSPA.
The KeSPA champions are going to eSF.
While this whole mess is extremely bad for SC2 in Korea, you have to admit its fucking hilarious. see this is a great tweet just to make a point, i'm going to steal it and see how many RTs I get
I really don't think so...
The KeSPA champions got fucked, so they are going to eSF to stay alive.
eSF right now is being treated like the minor leagues, or like a secondary pro league that just isn't as famous or established.
That's what they are, and that's where SouL has opportunity, so ofc, why not?!
IM needs money. They can't get anything from eSF, and KeSPA is the place to be if you're going to be professional. They, of all teams, have so much reason to join KeSPA. Prime and MVP are doing it more to reastablish themselves. They need a jump start in order to not only remain healthy, but also to see progress and thrive in professional eSports.
In my honest opinion, eSF has done what they needed to by sustaining the eSports scene for this long.
Their use has pretty much expired, and it's just a matter of time before GOM, and the rest of eSF have partnerships with KeSPA.
Yes, there are parts of this news that are bad (unsettling roots, etc) but this is not bad news. This is normal and will lead to progress. All parties will benefit this way, especially since its only a few teams at first and not all teams leaving eSF at once.
This will help keep stability throughout this transitive period on Korean SC2.
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Although Prime MVP and IM leave eSF does that mean they will join KeSPA?
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wow...that's actually quite surprising. Anyone have any information on why those teams left eSF?
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On September 05 2013 01:35 fireforce7 wrote:
wow...that's actually quite surprising. Anyone have any information on why those teams left eSF?
Most likely financial issues, IM and MVP are both really, really big teams with a lot of successful players and tons of sponsors (more so IM), but they still can't afford to pay salaries to their players, KeSPA provides them that stability they need at this point. Prime has had financial problems since its inception and had tried hard but been unsuccessful in getting more sponsors, they also need financial help.
Its only logical this happened, and I expect more Korean teams and eventually GOM to switch to KeSPA and eSF to dissolve, eSF has served its purpose but its time is up.
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EPT
