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WCS S2 Finals - Not the Koreans You're Looking For - Page 4

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fishball232
Profile Joined May 2010
United States90 Posts
August 24 2013 01:08 GMT
#61
Jaedong in finals plssplspslsplspls
"You really have to detach yourself and accept that you suck at StarCraft. Like I suck at StarCraft and it's all I've done for 15 years"-Artosis 2013
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
August 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#62
i am trying to figure out the bigger surprise today...

innovation getting eliminated or alive going 4-0 on the day...
eh?
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
August 24 2013 01:11 GMT
#63
On August 24 2013 08:15 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
Never change Jaedong, never change.


So is he going to stomp his way to the finals, then go 0-4?


The Dongers have to raised to the maximum height before you lower them.
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
August 24 2013 01:16 GMT
#64
Sad how even if MC gets out he has to play Taeja in the first round of the quarterfinals, why can't I have both of them advance
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 24 2013 01:49 GMT
#65
Go Nani!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
August 24 2013 01:53 GMT
#66
i hope a european or us player can break the korean dominance. would be great to see alive or dukdeok win
Osiccor
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada128 Posts
August 24 2013 02:02 GMT
#67
Go Jaedong! I believe you can make it to the final and lose again. Aim for that second place!
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
August 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#68
Is it THAT surprising that INnovation lost? I thought we established in the preview that his group is made of players who CAN, and WILL take advantage of his shortcomings. To me he remains indisputed best in terms of raw mechanics and TvZ micro, but he simply isn't staying at #1 of the power rank anymore if he remains weak in TvT and has weak mental fortitude.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
August 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#69
So many terrans. Ideally every protoss gets through and the Zerg. though I do prefer Polt to First.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2013 02:17 GMT
#70
On August 24 2013 10:03 crbox wrote:
didn't see Innovation's games... What's behind the What the f*** did he really play that bad?

He played v. well vs. Taeja (despite losing). Looked sluggish vs. Naniwa, dunno how else to describe it. But Naniwa did play very well in that series too.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#71
best game of the year? no way. Not even in just HotS. Counting WoL, Gumiho vs Losira blows it out of the water.

It needed more sub-100 supply duels, whack-a-base action, and though it was back and forth it really felt like Taeja was the one entrenched on Bogus' side of the map a lot more. I don't get to TvT much, but shouldn't Taeja have transitioned into skyterran sooner as well? Felt like he could've put the nail in the coffin sooner.

Soulkey vs Supernova g3 alone I thought was cooler.

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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
August 24 2013 02:30 GMT
#72
lol Rain's games...

"It's fine, JD can have 72 drones into timing attack"

Uh....no.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 24 2013 02:37 GMT
#73
On August 24 2013 11:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
best game of the year? no way. Not even in just HotS. Counting WoL, Gumiho vs Losira blows it out of the water.

It needed more sub-100 supply duels, whack-a-base action, and though it was back and forth it really felt like Taeja was the one entrenched on Bogus' side of the map a lot more. I don't get to TvT much, but shouldn't Taeja have transitioned into skyterran sooner as well? Felt like he could've put the nail in the coffin sooner.

Soulkey vs Supernova g3 alone I thought was cooler.



I have to agree. I just watched the game and it never looked liked Inno's mech army could take the initiative versus Taeja's bio army. The only hope he had was to map split, keep defending, and hope Taeja mines out his side of the map first. The few minutes Taeja was able to mine on the top right expansion on Inno's side was decisive. Marines being able to shoot medivacs was just so advantageous for Taeja because thors are terrible against medivacs.
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
August 24 2013 02:45 GMT
#74
I called it! The fall of Innovation :D I don't mind being called the only person who didn't like Innovation but I predicted that he would have a massive downfall and a slump :D Still, game 3 between Innovation and Taeja was like a war between gods
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
tekrebel
Profile Joined June 2012
56 Posts
August 24 2013 02:52 GMT
#75
Innovations only weakness I see is losing 4 games in a row.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 02:55:28
August 24 2013 02:53 GMT
#76
On August 24 2013 07:29 GhostFall wrote:
naniwa is now 1-5 against duck.

when a pattern emerges, you might wanna reevaluate the rock paper scissors attitude.

I never lose Rock, Paper, Scissors when I play with people I know, that doesn't mean it's not Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Finale is better than Naniwa though, so if they both pick rock Naniwa would not be favoured to win.

On August 24 2013 11:45 astray71 wrote:
I called it! The fall of Innovation :D I don't mind being called the only person who didn't like Innovation but I predicted that he would have a massive downfall and a slump :D Still, game 3 between Innovation and Taeja was like a war between gods

Innovation didn't so much fall as get nerfed. He was a the best hellbat abuser and has openly said he's not sure what to do in most matchups at the moment. Once he figures it out he'll probably begin to rape face again (also he's still incredible in not-TvT).
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 24 2013 03:13 GMT
#77
Watching Taeja vs. Innovation Game 3 made me grow a second set of testicles next to my first three.

Naniwa!
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
August 24 2013 03:15 GMT
#78
On August 24 2013 07:41 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 07:35 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 24 2013 07:16 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
(T)STX_INnoVation: What the f***?

Pretty much sums up my impression of his play today.

To be fair, G3 between him and taeja was totally amazing, but vs Nani he was really mediocre.

Honestly him and Taeja played a pretty close to perfect game. I would be amazed if that didn't seriously affect him going into the match vs Naniwa. I would bet that he was still thinking about that g3 and what he could have done differently. There is no way someone whose worst matchup is prolly his tvt plays that game and then just looks like an ordinary terrain the next 2.
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
August 24 2013 03:19 GMT
#79
Ahahaha. AHAHAHA! Maniacal laughter!

I told you Jaedong would make it.

It's his time, baby. The Tyrant shall reign!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
August 24 2013 03:21 GMT
#80
On August 24 2013 11:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
best game of the year? no way. Not even in just HotS. Counting WoL, Gumiho vs Losira blows it out of the water.

It needed more sub-100 supply duels, whack-a-base action, and though it was back and forth it really felt like Taeja was the one entrenched on Bogus' side of the map a lot more. I don't get to TvT much, but shouldn't Taeja have transitioned into skyterran sooner as well? Felt like he could've put the nail in the coffin sooner.

Soulkey vs Supernova g3 alone I thought was cooler.


Taeja was on Innovations side more because it was mech vs bio. He had to keep the pressure on so Innovation couldn't just build up the death army again and push to end the game.

Also I have seen a lot of people mentioning how either side should have gotten air faster. It really isn't that simple. Neither one of them ever had the opportunity to. Both were on relatively low econ for much of the game. If Taeja backed off on the aggression at all Innovation would have been able to stabilize and start to build up that super strong mech army. If Innovation started to build up skytoss at any point those super close fights on his side wouldn't have been super close. They would have been taeja ending the game.

And on the point about sub-100 battles. I don't see why constant large army engagements is worse than small army engagements. As long as it is super tense and constant action its just as good if not better.
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