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WCS S2 Finals - Not the Koreans You're Looking For - Page 6

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painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 24 2013 06:15 GMT
#101
On August 24 2013 14:44 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 14:08 bokchoi wrote:
Travel + jet lag getting the best of INnoVation? Remember he hasn't traveled as much as these guys esp. to Europe.

I know he went to MLG Dallas and made ro4 there. Plus I'm sure an event of this quality would warrant more of his focus than that MLG. I doubt that played any role in it. Taeja has always been capable of pushing Innovation to the limit. Almost all of their games have been very close. The Taeja lose shouldn't be a huge surprise. The naniwa lose is probably just a result of having to play right after that insane series with Taeja. It was likely hard for him to even focus on his games. He was most likely still going over what went wrong or what he could have done differently in the games with Taeja. Against Naniwa he just looked like some normal terran which he clearly isn't.

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 14:28 dyDrawer wrote:
Hoping for Rain and First to advance. Honestly with the number of Terrans we have in this tournament, Rain and First with their superb PvTs, should make it farther than MC (whose PvT is troubling him).

Rain would have to play Taeja and he is looking unstoppable so far. It would be close but I think Taeja can take it and should be the favorite at this point to win the whole thing. First I think will make it for sure. He kind of crushed Polt the last time they played and I doubt it will be any different.


Except that Taeja always lose to Rain. In fact I don't remember Taeja taking any game off Rain at all.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
GoodRiot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States75 Posts
August 24 2013 06:27 GMT
#102
Go Bomber!
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
August 24 2013 06:35 GMT
#103
On August 24 2013 15:15 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 14:44 bourne117 wrote:
On August 24 2013 14:08 bokchoi wrote:
Travel + jet lag getting the best of INnoVation? Remember he hasn't traveled as much as these guys esp. to Europe.

I know he went to MLG Dallas and made ro4 there. Plus I'm sure an event of this quality would warrant more of his focus than that MLG. I doubt that played any role in it. Taeja has always been capable of pushing Innovation to the limit. Almost all of their games have been very close. The Taeja lose shouldn't be a huge surprise. The naniwa lose is probably just a result of having to play right after that insane series with Taeja. It was likely hard for him to even focus on his games. He was most likely still going over what went wrong or what he could have done differently in the games with Taeja. Against Naniwa he just looked like some normal terran which he clearly isn't.

On August 24 2013 14:28 dyDrawer wrote:
Hoping for Rain and First to advance. Honestly with the number of Terrans we have in this tournament, Rain and First with their superb PvTs, should make it farther than MC (whose PvT is troubling him).

Rain would have to play Taeja and he is looking unstoppable so far. It would be close but I think Taeja can take it and should be the favorite at this point to win the whole thing. First I think will make it for sure. He kind of crushed Polt the last time they played and I doubt it will be any different.


Except that Taeja always lose to Rain. In fact I don't remember Taeja taking any game off Rain at all.


yeah rain is 6-0 vs taeja. for some reason, even though taeja is a multi-tasking monster, it seems like rain just reads him like a book.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 24 2013 06:38 GMT
#104
still blown away by jd
can i get my estro logo back pls
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 24 2013 06:40 GMT
#105
Zealously's bold predictions are coming true.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
August 24 2013 06:52 GMT
#106
Naniwa is the worst mannered pro. Yeah it's duckdeok's fault you don't scout every game and a person mind games you with nexus first ..rock paper scissors my ass.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
August 24 2013 06:58 GMT
#107
On August 24 2013 15:35 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 15:15 painkilla wrote:
On August 24 2013 14:44 bourne117 wrote:
On August 24 2013 14:08 bokchoi wrote:
Travel + jet lag getting the best of INnoVation? Remember he hasn't traveled as much as these guys esp. to Europe.

I know he went to MLG Dallas and made ro4 there. Plus I'm sure an event of this quality would warrant more of his focus than that MLG. I doubt that played any role in it. Taeja has always been capable of pushing Innovation to the limit. Almost all of their games have been very close. The Taeja lose shouldn't be a huge surprise. The naniwa lose is probably just a result of having to play right after that insane series with Taeja. It was likely hard for him to even focus on his games. He was most likely still going over what went wrong or what he could have done differently in the games with Taeja. Against Naniwa he just looked like some normal terran which he clearly isn't.

On August 24 2013 14:28 dyDrawer wrote:
Hoping for Rain and First to advance. Honestly with the number of Terrans we have in this tournament, Rain and First with their superb PvTs, should make it farther than MC (whose PvT is troubling him).

Rain would have to play Taeja and he is looking unstoppable so far. It would be close but I think Taeja can take it and should be the favorite at this point to win the whole thing. First I think will make it for sure. He kind of crushed Polt the last time they played and I doubt it will be any different.


Except that Taeja always lose to Rain. In fact I don't remember Taeja taking any game off Rain at all.


yeah rain is 6-0 vs taeja. for some reason, even though taeja is a multi-tasking monster, it seems like rain just reads him like a book.

Oh wow. I will say Taeja use to have HORRENDOUS tvp. If the GSL had even a reasonable number of tosses in the tournament there is a good chance he wouldn't have made nearly has many ro8s. For some reason I just feel different this time. Taeja has started to play a TON more aggressive in tvp and it has really helped him out. Hopefully we will see because he is either facing the most unpredictable and aggro toss in MC or the most cautious standard toss in rain lol
QO Feasting
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
August 24 2013 07:07 GMT
#108
JAEDONG vs RAIN in the finals!!! 4-1
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Falckon
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway30 Posts
August 24 2013 07:23 GMT
#109
A great write-up.

Hoping for some Taeja Ws or Jaedongs first major victory in sc2!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 24 2013 07:28 GMT
#110
Omg Inno... He wasnt himself yesterday I even saw him lying on the table in the player area. It was really weird like he was ill or tired :/
Lets go Polt and Maru!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
August 24 2013 07:32 GMT
#111
Ehh poor JD fans, even if he gets to the finals he'll lose there.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 24 2013 07:35 GMT
#112
On August 24 2013 16:32 Sakkreth wrote:
Ehh poor JD fans, even if he gets to the finals he'll lose there.


That's what they said in his first match against Rain too.

Super glad Jaedong is doing so well in this tournament. Exceptionally disappointed in Innovation, but Jaedong's success really trumps that. Hope JD can go all the way.
Flash | Mvp
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
August 24 2013 07:45 GMT
#113
OMG Jaedong.. GO GO..

Want Scarlett, Jaedong, Naniwa and Polt to do well today though..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Schroedinger
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany80 Posts
August 24 2013 08:17 GMT
#114
Time for Bomber to redeem himself ...
Conquest is made of the ashes of one's enemies
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
August 24 2013 08:21 GMT
#115
nice read!
Seiju
Profile Joined July 2013
Hong Kong23 Posts
August 24 2013 08:24 GMT
#116
A great day 1. A few thoughts :

- I would bet a few bucks on Bomber as title winner.

- Nani is right, whatever one thinks of him or his manners. PvP is just coinflip atm and his games are not the only ones that illustrate it.

- The NA scene is more competitive than it's supposed to be, which is great news.

- MC vs Jaedong game 2 and Innovation vs Taeja game 3 will definetely be among the games of the year.

- It's really becoming insanely hard to stay at the top within the current state of the game.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 24 2013 08:26 GMT
#117
I hope Nani can spare a scouting probe today. It may not change much in the end if both players do what they have decided to do, but...
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
SsoL
Profile Joined August 2012
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 08:38:50
August 24 2013 08:36 GMT
#118
I don't get how people can think Innovation played well vs Taeja. He f**** up game 2 by not scouting a simple attack by Taeja (and reacting properly). In game 3, he didnt take advantage of the battles he won, then proceeded not to build a single viking and let Taeja drop on his tanks over and over again (main reason why he lost btw). He forced unfavorable engagements. Also his late expansions were constantly denied. Innovation played terribly compared to what he has showed us in the past.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 24 2013 08:38 GMT
#119
On August 24 2013 15:35 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 15:15 painkilla wrote:
On August 24 2013 14:44 bourne117 wrote:
On August 24 2013 14:08 bokchoi wrote:
Travel + jet lag getting the best of INnoVation? Remember he hasn't traveled as much as these guys esp. to Europe.

I know he went to MLG Dallas and made ro4 there. Plus I'm sure an event of this quality would warrant more of his focus than that MLG. I doubt that played any role in it. Taeja has always been capable of pushing Innovation to the limit. Almost all of their games have been very close. The Taeja lose shouldn't be a huge surprise. The naniwa lose is probably just a result of having to play right after that insane series with Taeja. It was likely hard for him to even focus on his games. He was most likely still going over what went wrong or what he could have done differently in the games with Taeja. Against Naniwa he just looked like some normal terran which he clearly isn't.

On August 24 2013 14:28 dyDrawer wrote:
Hoping for Rain and First to advance. Honestly with the number of Terrans we have in this tournament, Rain and First with their superb PvTs, should make it farther than MC (whose PvT is troubling him).

Rain would have to play Taeja and he is looking unstoppable so far. It would be close but I think Taeja can take it and should be the favorite at this point to win the whole thing. First I think will make it for sure. He kind of crushed Polt the last time they played and I doubt it will be any different.


Except that Taeja always lose to Rain. In fact I don't remember Taeja taking any game off Rain at all.


yeah rain is 6-0 vs taeja. for some reason, even though taeja is a multi-tasking monster, it seems like rain just reads him like a book.


No, it's just that Taeja doesn't do scv pull
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 08:55:48
August 24 2013 08:52 GMT
#120
-wrong thread-
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