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APM video of Rain - WCG Korea Qualifier - Page 2

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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 20 2013 16:03 GMT
#21
Damn, that gave me new respect for Gateway heavy Protoss. Looks fun to play! Maybe that's the style I will play when I switch
KT FlaSh FOREVER
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 20 2013 16:08 GMT
#22
And who said Protoss doesn't require as much APM?
liftlift > tsm
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 20 2013 16:12 GMT
#23
On August 20 2013 23:39 covetousrat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:20 Valikyr wrote:
On August 20 2013 18:14 ETisME wrote:
surprisingly low apm throughout the entire game.
watching him landing those forcefield with a sudden change in the mouse speed is awesome though

Rain was never the fastest player. He's fast enough and very precise though. Looked solid to me.


If you want pure highest apm and fastest Protoss probably is Seed and MC. 300+apm


Puzzle is also crazy fast.
orangeorange
Profile Joined October 2012
134 Posts
August 20 2013 16:17 GMT
#24
On August 20 2013 18:14 ETisME wrote:
surprisingly low apm throughout the entire game.
watching him landing those forcefield with a sudden change in the mouse speed is awesome though


To me he looked extremely fast and clean/efficient. I've probably spent thousands of hours watching all the top protoss streams and rain would rank up there as among the fastest. A lot of people may look faster because they're flailing their mouse around or wasting a lot of actions, or aren't as good at using camera hotkeys and frantically scroll around all over the place, but that doesn't mean they're getting more done.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 20 2013 16:22 GMT
#25
On August 20 2013 18:29 partydude89 wrote:
i personally don't like that type of style that rain showed this game, where you forgo tech for a long time in order to get a huge gateway tech. i think it's because my years of playing protoss has ingrained in my head that stalkers are terribad.


lol he get blink . in any micro test map you see the efficiency of stalkers double when having and microing properly BLINK .
tones of stalkers + sentry(for guardian shield ) is the new meta latelty on KR ladder . is very good vs muta play aswel . like really good .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
iGn1t3
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong73 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 16:31:06
August 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#26
Thanks for all these apm videos Khaldor!
I lose today to win tomorrow.
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
August 21 2013 02:15 GMT
#27
Is that Pocari Sweat?
When cats speak, mice listen.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:01:39
August 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#28
Another sick video. Can't thank you enough Khaldor. Keep it up.

Which mouse is he using? the mico?

I'm guessing you can't include gear in the description because a lot of these players using gear not from their sponsor? Just wondering.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 10:30:32
August 21 2013 10:30 GMT
#29
Well SKT1 has no gear sponsor
It's good to be back
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10036 Posts
August 21 2013 10:35 GMT
#30
long fingers are op
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 10:46:58
August 21 2013 10:46 GMT
#31
On August 21 2013 01:17 orangeorange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:14 ETisME wrote:
surprisingly low apm throughout the entire game.
watching him landing those forcefield with a sudden change in the mouse speed is awesome though


To me he looked extremely fast and clean/efficient. I've probably spent thousands of hours watching all the top protoss streams and rain would rank up there as among the fastest. A lot of people may look faster because they're flailing their mouse around or wasting a lot of actions, or aren't as good at using camera hotkeys and frantically scroll around all over the place, but that doesn't mean they're getting more done.

Another point in my view is that his APM is more on his mouse than keyboard.
People tend to focus os keyboard and think that "machine gun" sound (tatatatatatatatat) = APM.
Im my opinion people should watch again and focus on his mouse. Its beautifull.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 21 2013 10:46 GMT
#32
On August 20 2013 17:52 Khaldor wrote:
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On August 20 2013 17:46 thezanursic wrote:
I think you should make a thread to compile all of your APM video's instead of them being scattered around the TL.net forums.


I responded to this about 20 times already but here is once again an exact quote of what I have to say to that topic:

"Someone is more than welcome to have a thread like this. I personally recommend the playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmHhGKzRGhKQXAK04jH8CwaM8cb9QQSIf

And as to the advertising: unfortunately nobody gives a rat's ass about a single thread that's called "APM Videos of Korean Proplayers" that is updated every few weeks/months in comparison to specific threads about players like Boxer, Flash, Innovation, Losira, Life etc.

Cheers, Khaldor"


khaldor .. i think you can add that youtube link on the next apm video thread that you will post .. it will be much convenient just saying .. great vid BTW !
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 21 2013 10:47 GMT
#33
On August 21 2013 01:12 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:39 covetousrat wrote:
On August 20 2013 18:20 Valikyr wrote:
On August 20 2013 18:14 ETisME wrote:
surprisingly low apm throughout the entire game.
watching him landing those forcefield with a sudden change in the mouse speed is awesome though

Rain was never the fastest player. He's fast enough and very precise though. Looked solid to me.


If you want pure highest apm and fastest Protoss probably is Seed and MC. 300+apm


Puzzle is also crazy fast.


yeah MC was a speed freak .. though i have not seen puzzle .. some people also say that Bisu has the APM level for terran pros
this is a quote
cloneThorN
Profile Joined September 2012
Denmark302 Posts
August 21 2013 10:58 GMT
#34
On August 21 2013 01:22 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:29 partydude89 wrote:
i personally don't like that type of style that rain showed this game, where you forgo tech for a long time in order to get a huge gateway tech. i think it's because my years of playing protoss has ingrained in my head that stalkers are terribad.


lol he get blink . in any micro test map you see the efficiency of stalkers double when having and microing properly BLINK .
tones of stalkers + sentry(for guardian shield ) is the new meta latelty on KR ladder . is very good vs muta play aswel . like really good .


"New Meta"'
Stalker timings have been the meta ever since Neo Planet S got into the mappool.

They are insanely hard to hold, as they turn whatever defenders advantage you have against you.
I can do anything i want, until otherwise is proven.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
August 21 2013 11:01 GMT
#35
its nice to see that he is not amove .. and micros stalkers well
this is a quote
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
August 21 2013 21:58 GMT
#36
On August 21 2013 18:00 TRaFFiC wrote:
I'm guessing you can't include gear in the description because a lot of these players using gear not from their sponsor? Just wondering.


I simply don't know which gear they are using most of the time. When I record videos I record as many as I can during the day and kinda lose track to be honest. Usually the comments figure out the hardware specs quite soon after I uploaded the video
Tutorials, Quick Tips and Guides: www.YouTube.com/KhaldorTV
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