Genna Bain leaves Axiom - Page 19

On August 17 2013 03:03 AgentW wrote:

Agreed, but drama diffusion is done by the community turning its back on this incident and moving on. Let's see how long that takes.

On August 17 2013 03:29 Ljas wrote:
I still want a link to that apology tweet.

On August 17 2013 03:28 ptbl wrote:
Maybe TotalBiscuit should advertise the ATC finals through his various mediums as a goodwill gesture? I know he apologized, but I bet if he does this extra thing it will seal the deal.

On August 17 2013 03:34 Ljas wrote:

How that failed to appear in my twitter feed I'll never know. Thanks.

On August 17 2013 03:43 GunPaladin wrote:
Good on TB for apologizing, hopefully he does the same for his MVP comments. Maybe now this whole ordeal can die off.

On August 17 2013 02:53 Plansix wrote:

All right, folks, TB apologized, lets all get a beer and make plans for the Season 2 finals next week.

On August 17 2013 03:48 Assirra wrote:

The problem here is, for me at least him insulting is not the big issue here. They can insult each other blue on twitter for all i are. My biggest issue is the releasing of private conversations.

On August 17 2013 03:50 Plansix wrote:

There was nothing bad enough to really change anything in the discussions and they can settle that in private. We, as a community, do not need to be involved with that.

On August 17 2013 03:45 Plansix wrote:

I think we need a TL rule for dumb tweets. The person should have a 24 hour window to apologize before it becomes “real” drama. 36 hours if it involves family members.

On August 17 2013 03:55 Assirra wrote:

Who talks about getting involved? And please stop talking we are all some hivemind. People can think of stuff however they dam well please no matter what "we as a community" should do as you say.

On August 17 2013 02:35 Knuty wrote:
Holy shit ,people are such assholes out for drama when being anonymous.....

On August 17 2013 03:56 Falling wrote:

I think it was Shamus Young podcast (the Diecast) I was listening to where they weighed into the whole Phil Fish controversy. Part of the nature of modern video games is the immediacy of everything. Under the old industry, you would have a buffer system between yourself and the audience/ consumers. So then there would be a delay in which prepared statements could be made and everything is a lot less dramatic.

Now there is immediate and direct access. Which can be really cool. You get direct communication with those creating stuff. But it can also be really raw and messy because fewer things get filtered or allowed to percolate until emotions can cool off and a more reasonable, but still truthful statement can be made.

So yes, we probably will continue to see 'action or statement' followed by 'e-drama' followed by 'retraction and more e-drama.' It's more direct, personal, and it happens much quicker and can flare up bigger.

On August 17 2013 02:47 BronzeKnee wrote:


In theory, confidentiality is great.

In practice, when it comes to businesses it is often, (not always) used to cover up for unethical, dishonest, and deceptive business practice where someone is getting screwed.

Which is why I asked for a real life example.

It is also not certain that what Genna did is illegal. In most countries, it is illegal to record a private conversation without the knowledge of one or both of the parties. But Genna didn't record anything, this is where it get's hairy. Take recorded it when he wrote what he wrote and sent it to Genna.

It is up to a judge (at least where I live) to decide if Take had a reasonable expectation for that conversation to remain private, or he could decide that the fact that he put it down in email and sent it to her makes it something that Genna could share. If someone writes me a letter, and I share, do I get in trouble? Often not. Take would have a tough case on his hands, did he make sure no one was looking over his shoulder when he wrote it or Genna when she recieved it (if you have "private conservation" on a street corner, courts often see that as a public conversation)? Did he tell her this was private and not to be shared. Probably not, I didn't see the disclaimer in the emails she posted (yes there is a reason for that disclaimer at the end of someone emails!). Again, that is up to the judge

This is why so much business is done face to face or over the phone.