SC2 Power Rank - August 2013 - Page 17

On August 11 2013 02:54 monk wrote:

pretty good, thanks ^^

On July 04 2013 04:47 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Think of it this way: you have to bet your life on either Soulkey or Innovation in a bo1 against an arbitrary player. Who would you choose?

On August 11 2013 03:35 BronzeKnee wrote:


I know it doesn't predict, unless you're trying to justify Innovation:


But man...

On August 11 2013 03:07 vthree wrote:



To be fair, the rankings specifically state that the results within that month matter most. So if Maru does will in globals, he should get the top spot.

On August 11 2013 10:11 theMagus wrote:


yeah this. this ranking is more like a flavor of the month kind of thing rather than a serious attempt to determine the current best player

On August 11 2013 10:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:


Determining the "best player" in this field, where the skill level is so high that absolute dominance is at best streaky and just as dependent on luck as skill, would take so long that the results would be irrelevant by the time they were produced.

Anyway Maru played amazingly and no one can say he did not deserve to win OSL.

On August 11 2013 10:39 theMagus wrote:


by best player, i meant in terms of results within reasonably relevant periods. what i was saying was that this is much more focused on a player's achievements within a month, hence flavor of the month. oh and i'm not out to get maru. i happen to think anyone who wins a championship deserves to win it, regardless of who it is

On August 11 2013 10:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:


Which brings up all the problems people have with ranking players in the first place: unintentionally avoiding players in brackets, getting their tournament runs cut short against top players, winning games despite playing poorly, losing games despite playing fundamentally well, inflation due to crushing clearly inferior opponents, opportunities to go out to tournaments, arguments over time frames, arguments over viability of play in the long run, arguments over the influence of the metagame instead of 'pure skill', etc.

On August 11 2013 18:56 shin_toss wrote:
where's Polt

On August 12 2013 06:18 shin777 wrote:
lol. innovation only won 1 championship when hellbat was super op and he was abusing it to death or cheese all the time. I just can't understand people calling him the best in the world. If that logic applies, it is absolutely ok for maru to be the best in the world right now. He beat all the top players alone the way this season and he should be #1 in the world and power rank #1.

If innovation should be considered #1 in the world, he's gotta at least win few championships not just 1 championship with patch terran manner. He's good in tvz I give him that but other than that, he's nothing special but patch terran champ. Need prove? As soon as hellbat nerf came, bomber 3-0 him, maru 4-0 him. Bomber didn't even cheese him and still destroyed innovation. Maru 1 based all in him 3 times in a row but that hardly matters coz innovation couldn't adopt at all. That surely doesn't suit #1 in the world. Innovation's tvt was 100% based on cheese or hellbat drop abuse to mech push and with that gone, his seemingly invincible tvt record was bound to fall(though I bet nobody expected his tvt was that bad without hellbat). Innovation should feel lucky that hellbat nerf came after he made it to round of 4. In wings of liberty, inno wasn't even code S round of 8 material and only reason he won season 1 final was most of his important matchese were tvt where he could abuse hellbat drop and cheese to death. If Innovation still plays solid and win another championship, I will consider him as one of the best in the world but as it is now, he's mere patch terran champ in my book.

So there you go. All you people calling Maru garbage, you should have look at innovation's record first. By people who calling innovation #1 in the world's logic, Maru prime is NEW #1 in the world. He beat the best in the world innovation 4-0, so Maru is the #1. There's no excuse for innovation losing 4 games in a row whether he cheesed or not. His tvt was never impressive from the beginning and with hellbat drop gone, he will never be able to win tvt the way he did up till now. I bet flash, mvp etc will have sweet revenge times against innovation if they ever meet him again.

On August 12 2013 06:18 shin777 wrote:
lol. innovation only won 1 championship when hellbat was super op and he was abusing it to death or cheese all the time. I just can't understand people calling him the best in the world. If that logic applies, it is absolutely ok for maru to be the best in the world right now. He beat all the top players alone the way this season and he should be #1 in the world and power rank #1.

If innovation should be considered #1 in the world, he's gotta at least win few championships not just 1 championship with patch terran manner. He's good in tvz I give him that but other than that, he's nothing special but patch terran champ. Need prove? As soon as hellbat nerf came, bomber 3-0 him, maru 4-0 him. Bomber didn't even cheese him and still destroyed innovation. Maru 1 based all in him 3 times in a row but that hardly matters coz innovation couldn't adopt at all. That surely doesn't suit #1 in the world. Innovation's tvt was 100% based on cheese or hellbat drop abuse to mech push and with that gone, his seemingly invincible tvt record was bound to fall(though I bet nobody expected his tvt was that bad without hellbat). Innovation should feel lucky that hellbat nerf came after he made it to round of 4. In wings of liberty, inno wasn't even code S round of 8 material and only reason he won season 1 final was most of his important matchese were tvt where he could abuse hellbat drop and cheese to death. If Innovation still plays solid and win another championship, I will consider him as one of the best in the world but as it is now, he's mere patch terran champ in my book.

So there you go. All you people calling Maru garbage, you should have look at innovation's record first. By people who calling innovation #1 in the world's logic, Maru prime is NEW #1 in the world. He beat the best in the world innovation 4-0, so Maru is the #1. There's no excuse for innovation losing 4 games in a row whether he cheesed or not. His tvt was never impressive from the beginning and with hellbat drop gone, he will never be able to win tvt the way he did up till now. I bet flash, mvp etc will have sweet revenge times against innovation if they ever meet him again.