EPTApart from his series planning which is atrocious :/
SC2 Power Rank - August 2013 - Page 15
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Apart from his series planning which is atrocious :/ | ||
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
On August 10 2013 05:50 Ammanas wrote: Why would someone deserve #1 spot in July for a result that happens in mid August? O_o I don't mean that they alter the power rank after they've already done it; I mean that if they were to do a power rank right after the finals that Innovation wouldn't be ranked #1. | ||
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On August 10 2013 06:01 GumBa wrote: Innovation is still the number 1 IMO. He's still the most consistent performer out there and probably the strongest player. Apart from his series planning which is atrocious :/ His series planning and his ability to react on the spot I feel. If he could merge his superb mechanics with MVP's wits, it would be the perfect player. | ||
Waxangel
United States33086 Posts
On August 09 2013 23:43 Sejanus wrote: -- power rank 2 years from now -- #2 Flash (+2), a champion of MLG, Dreamhack, GSL, Asus ROG and Mauritania Cup this month. #1 Innovation. (+- 0, same as in previous PR). Yes, he lost almost every official game he played this month, but mostly due to small mistakes in the end. Every game it looked like he played in such a dominating fashion, if not those small mistakes by the end. Also did you know he qualified for Major Extreme Hwaiting (MEH) tournament with 2:1 over QueenE? Only dropping a game to cheese? Major Extreme Hwaiting such a great name | ||
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On August 10 2013 05:01 LittleRedBoy wrote: Barring a complete collapse of either Maru or Rain in the finals, I think that most people here would be forced to concede that the winner deserves the #1 spot over Innovation. I'm not sure. People have to remember, Innovation has always seemed a bit shaky in TVT. HOWEVER, he still seems unbeatable in tvp and tvz, i'm not sure hes going to lose his #1 spot unless that happens or he only plays TVT's. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On August 10 2013 07:43 ACrow wrote: His series planning and his ability to react on the spot I feel. If he could merge his superb mechanics with MVP's wits, it would be the perfect player. Yep he just isn't very creative and flexible  sad really | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
List looks pretty decent otherwise imo. I think SoS should be a few slots higher still, as well. Who has he really lost to? | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On August 09 2013 15:37 BronzeKnee wrote: He also argues that Innovation is better than Maru... Some people can't see past their own bias. When not a single person agrees with you, maybe you should rethink your opinions. Or at least stop arguing them. It's arguable that Rain should be #1, but no one else in this thread thinks for a second that #1 would be Maru. You also forget Innovation vs Maru was directly after the Hellbat nerf, which Innovation was using in ~75% of his TvT games. It's not that simple to change your play with such a massive metagame shift in a single week. In a month Maru will never beat Innovation in a BO7 in his lifetime again. | ||
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Torra
Norway469 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
On August 10 2013 18:02 Torra wrote: Innovation is still clearly the best player in the world, I don't know why people question him getting #1 again. Um, Maru just beat #1 and #2 by a combined score of 8-2 and you still think Innovation is "clearly the best player in the world?" What world are you living on exactly? | ||
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vult
United States9399 Posts
On August 10 2013 19:56 LittleRedBoy wrote: Um, Maru just beat #1 and #2 by a combined score of 8-2 and you still think Innovation is "clearly the best player in the world?" What world are you living on exactly? I'd definitely not jump the gun and peg Maru above Innovation. We'll see after the Season Finals since Innovation, Rain, and Bomber will all be there. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
watch innovation just 4-0 in the finals again. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On August 10 2013 19:56 LittleRedBoy wrote: Um, Maru just beat #1 and #2 by a combined score of 8-2 and you still think Innovation is "clearly the best player in the world?" What world are you living on exactly? Games weren't exactly the highest quality. Maru stomped 8 one-sided games where his opponent's appeared to fall below the level we'd expect them to play at. That doesn't mean Maru doesn't deserve his wins, it just means we know he's good but he hasn't been given the real challenge yet to settle all doubt. "insufficient data." | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On August 10 2013 20:12 rd wrote: Games weren't exactly the highest quality. Maru stomped 8 one-sided games where his opponent's appeared to fall below the level we'd expect them to play at. That doesn't mean Maru doesn't deserve his wins, it just means we know he's good but he hasn't been given the real challenge yet to settle all doubt. "insufficient data." Innovation won the S1 Finals based off sOs choking before he even stepped in the booth. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On August 10 2013 20:12 rd wrote: Games weren't exactly the highest quality. Maru stomped 8 one-sided games where his opponent's appeared to fall below the level we'd expect them to play at. That doesn't mean Maru doesn't deserve his wins, it just means we know he's good but he hasn't been given the real challenge yet to settle all doubt. "insufficient data." Ever wonder why the "firsr, second" players in the world would choke facing Maru? Maybe it's because Maru is simply better? Of course ManU looks dominate in Supreme League, but they still got stormed out of Champion league coz they are facing a different level of opponents. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On August 10 2013 20:14 Fionn wrote: Innovation won the S1 Finals based off sOs choking before he even stepped in the booth. I'm sure you could add a lot of finals to the list. Innovation vs Soulkey Squirtle vs Mvp Seed vs Byun Last vs DRG / Last vs MC Those are a few that come to my head. The winner in starcraft is often about the guy who doesn't choke at the key moment. In fact I think a lot of players can mechanically play at the top. But the top is reserved for more than mechanics. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On August 10 2013 20:20 Baroninthetree wrote: Ever wonder why the "firsr, second" players in the world would choke facing Maru? Maybe it's because Maru is simply better? Of course ManU looks dominate in Supreme League, but they still got stormed out of Champion league coz they are facing a different level of opponents. Because when you look at the games they weren't high quality lol. If Maru's nerves didn't get him in G1 with the monumental misread of Rain's ultra conservative late third I'm pretty sure Rain would have been 4-0'ed. Maru was just way better tonight with nothing but solid standard play -- ironically. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On August 10 2013 20:26 rd wrote: Because when you look at the games they weren't high quality lol. If Maru's nerves didn't get him in G1 with the monumental misread of Rain's ultra conservative late third I'm pretty sure Rain would have been 4-0'ed. Maru was just way better tonight with nothing but solid standard play -- ironically. i guess what i am trying to say is that the quality of play sometimes depends on opponents. | ||
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