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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#321
On August 20 2013 20:30 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh, in other news, 2/2/2 and immortal all ins on Yeonsu seem pretty good.


I had a team mate of mine take the "close" third on yeonsu by accident. Soultrain hit him at 9:20.
Lols ensued.

Oh speaking of 222, dat spot on the high ground behind the third on Frost :D

Speaking of which, i am actually end up taking alternative third
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 11:34:32
August 20 2013 11:34 GMT
#322
On August 20 2013 20:27 klup wrote:
Polar Night just say don't play reaper ! there is no cliff that can be jumped in the entire map except close to the main ramp. this is such a joke, just remove reaper as a unit on this map it will be quicker ! Hope blizzard will fix cliff on this map before releasing it !

What is the problem with map that is bad for reapers? It's not like every map must be good for ones, right!?
EDIT: I am noob and i don't know. Please explain
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klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
August 20 2013 11:57 GMT
#323
in this map all cliffs cannot be jumped. it's a type of object that can't be jumped by reapers but you can blink up without a problem.
So the map designer intended to prevent reaper play at all on his map because every single cliff cannot be jumped except the close cliff around the main
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 20 2013 12:06 GMT
#324
On August 20 2013 20:57 klup wrote:
in this map all cliffs cannot be jumped. it's a type of object that can't be jumped by reapers but you can blink up without a problem.
So the map designer intended to prevent reaper play at all on his map because every single cliff cannot be jumped except the close cliff around the main

And what is the exact problem with that? That's what i do not understand, even though i remember those complaints about reapers not really being useful at this map.
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klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
August 20 2013 14:22 GMT
#325
a map designed to ban a specific or some specifics unit of the game is a bad designed map imo. Less strategy available, less fun
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
August 20 2013 14:27 GMT
#326
On August 20 2013 23:22 klup wrote:
a map designed to ban a specific or some specifics unit of the game is a bad designed map imo. Less strategy available, less fun


In my opinion, a map that encourages different strategies is a boon. If all strategies are available on all maps, you'll always do the same thing, which ends up truly forcing less strategy.
Cereal
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
August 20 2013 14:43 GMT
#327
there is a difference between slightly favor or desavantage certain playstyle and completely deny some. Just try to use a reaper on Polar Night and you will see it yourself.

and if there are very few strategy for some maps this lead to a very boring game when you know in advance what will come up the argument is a double blade
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
August 20 2013 18:57 GMT
#328
Where do you find Polar Night? Search comes up with nothing.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
August 20 2013 19:20 GMT
#329
On August 21 2013 03:57 ReMinD_ wrote:
Where do you find Polar Night? Search comes up with nothing.


The korean server i think has the map published.
ShootingQuasar
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom44 Posts
August 20 2013 20:13 GMT
#330
I can already see zealot rn bys being a bitch for terran players on the map Frost, but i really like the look of the maps :D
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ant-1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada149 Posts
August 21 2013 00:54 GMT
#331
Xel'Naga towers are so 2012, it seems...
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Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
August 22 2013 12:39 GMT
#332
Yeonsu is like 100% totally ridiculous. This is a the-whole-map-is-a-choke-and-I-kill-you-with-mines-from-highground map
http://twitch.tv/mahtasooma
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12032 Posts
August 22 2013 12:45 GMT
#333
On August 22 2013 21:39 Mahtasooma wrote:
Yeonsu is like 100% totally ridiculous. This is a the-whole-map-is-a-choke-and-I-kill-you-with-mines-from-highground map


I love it as a mech player purely because it's finally a map that benefits tanks over bio for a damn change.

Also to the previous comment I really do wish Xel'naga towers didn't exist on maps anymore. I really think they're detremental to the game.
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
August 22 2013 12:55 GMT
#334
Are any of these maps reaper friendly?
TL+ Member
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 15:12:56
August 22 2013 15:10 GMT
#335
None is reaper friendly. made some test and yeosun and frost are reaperable at least. for me those map are the same for reaper as for example belshir vestige.

In general if you look at the map pool, it's very simple : all reaper friendly maps are gone. I am a specialist of reaper play and i don't know how i will now save them from speedlings or just poke some key point on the map.

My old vetoed maps were :

Derelict Watcher
Whirlwind

because they are very hard to play with reaper. guess what maps are staying... If you add the new maps to this you have basically 4 maps you can play reaper in

Yeonsun
Akilon Wastes
Frost (but meeeh)
Belshir vestige (but meeeh)
Forced to play standard from now on. RIP the only very good change of a wol unit....
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2013 15:17 GMT
#336
4 (with 2 meeeeeeeh) sounds good for reaper play for me, am i wrong? Ah, i forgot, nobody wants to play different styles on ladder.
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klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
August 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#337
4 (with 2 meeeeeeeh) sounds good for reaper play for me, am i wrong? Ah, i forgot, nobody wants to play different styles on ladder.


none of them are 'good' and meeeeh its bearly playable. If you want some maps where reaper are good :

Star Station

Red City

Newkirk precinct

I play for fun and I found new reaper extremely fun because it's one of those unit that you can actually micro in early game and add a little bit of 'spice' in the usual extremely boring early game of terran. I play very different playstyle but i like to reaper opening with 2 or 3 rax every time because i like it. IF there was only maps where air unit can't harass bases easily because of a lack of 'empty' terrain you will hear cry a lot of people that like air units. I just don't see the point to have absolutely no map where reaper can be 'good' to open with
Iberville
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada207 Posts
August 22 2013 16:31 GMT
#338
I find it amusing this controversy about reapers not being that amazing, forcing innovation and revision of current builds. It can be nothing but good for the game.
I promise not to make a tasteless joke.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2013 16:37 GMT
#339
On August 22 2013 21:45 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 21:39 Mahtasooma wrote:
Yeonsu is like 100% totally ridiculous. This is a the-whole-map-is-a-choke-and-I-kill-you-with-mines-from-highground map


I love it as a mech player purely because it's finally a map that benefits tanks over bio for a damn change.

Also to the previous comment I really do wish Xel'naga towers didn't exist on maps anymore. I really think they're detremental to the game.

I want more flavors of Xel'naga towers, that provide vision is weird ways, like in a line or down one arch. Being able to get vision of one path is more interesting than "all vision".

Also, Yeonsu looks like it will be interesting. Island expansion are back in style and I like that is can go split map. I just hope it isn't super passive, because I don't need Daybreak part 2.
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vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
August 22 2013 16:58 GMT
#340
I can predict a lot of blink play in PvP which to me is fun, and maybe in PvT too (I never do it in this matchup though). What I'm not sure about is how good these maps will be for mid-late game PvT and especially PvZ. Too many paths, expansions are too spread out. Frost has a weird vulnerable spot right behind your third's mineral line too. I guess I'll have to wait and see.
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