• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:23
CEST 12:23
KST 19:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions ASL22 General Discussion Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch! Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6415 users

New Maps for Season 5 2013 - Page 24

Forum Index > SC2 General
471 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 All
Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
September 01 2013 19:13 GMT
#461
Im glad Im not the only toss struggling on Polar Night. I feel PvT is impossible on that map. PvZ isnt much fun either
Open your heart and embrace the darkness
nixi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden39 Posts
September 01 2013 19:44 GMT
#462
Polar Night is so goddamn bluuuu.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
September 01 2013 19:45 GMT
#463
i´ve finally vetoed all the new maps. at first i found them interesting, but the more i play, the less i like.
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#464
yea if I have to play on bel'shir one more time I'm gonna cry. seems like I get that map every game and it's terrible. Hate any map with 2 main paths, the pathing always gets fucked up
I come in for the scraps
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 02 2013 00:41 GMT
#465
So why the hate for Akilon Wastes?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12055 Posts
September 02 2013 01:01 GMT
#466
On September 02 2013 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So why the hate for Akilon Wastes?


That and Bel'shir both lead to incredibly stale games with lack of variety and they're just really boring maps to watch/play on at this point.

Maps need to be constantly rotated to keep the game interesting and evolving. It's why proleague is so damn good, they cycle pretty much all the maps in a quick time period.

GSL and WoL was almost ruined for me purely because Daybreak/Cloud Kingdom and Ohana were in the map pool for what felt like 2 years and every game on them played out exactly the same every single time.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
September 02 2013 01:24 GMT
#467
On September 02 2013 10:01 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So why the hate for Akilon Wastes?


That and Bel'shir both lead to incredibly stale games with lack of variety and they're just really boring maps to watch/play on at this point.

Maps need to be constantly rotated to keep the game interesting and evolving. It's why proleague is so damn good, they cycle pretty much all the maps in a quick time period.

GSL and WoL was almost ruined for me purely because Daybreak/Cloud Kingdom and Ohana were in the map pool for what felt like 2 years and every game on them played out exactly the same every single time.


I agree with this we need a constant rotation of maps to keep things interesting. The problem comes when the new maps we get suck as in the case currently. Yeonsu isn't too bad and its base layout is interesting and leads for some interesting tactics. Polar Night is completely retarded though and was obviously designed by Blizzard. Frost isn't too bad but it is kinda too big and I think it's kind of boring
Open your heart and embrace the darkness
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#468
polar night is more of a spectator's map then one you want to play on. I have high hopes for it when it comes to professional play, but it is really quite terrible to play on
I come in for the scraps
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
September 02 2013 01:45 GMT
#469
I don't see any zergs complaining about polar night :p, it's great for Z, rock base can be taken as 4th or 5th
Formerly known as carbonaceous
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
September 02 2013 01:50 GMT
#470
On September 02 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
polar night is more of a spectator's map then one you want to play on. I have high hopes for it when it comes to professional play, but it is really quite terrible to play on

This, this, i have come to the idea that many people like to watch starcraft being played by professionals in non-standard maps, but they don't like playing on those maps since playing on those maps means that they have to be much more active trough the game, and what they want is just to sit and macro at their base make some drops and then throw their armies at one each other, and while the players start to become more good at the game and advance leagues that feeling tends to disappear in most guys (but it still remains in some) and they start to want more dynamic and less easily defendable maps so they can enjoy more of the early and midgame with timing attacks, pushes and all-ins.
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 02 2013 02:26 GMT
#471
On September 02 2013 10:50 Uvantak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 10:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
polar night is more of a spectator's map then one you want to play on. I have high hopes for it when it comes to professional play, but it is really quite terrible to play on

This, this, i have come to the idea that many people like to watch starcraft being played by professionals in non-standard maps, but they don't like playing on those maps since playing on those maps means that they have to be much more active trough the game, and what they want is just to sit and macro at their base make some drops and then throw their armies at one each other, and while the players start to become more good at the game and advance leagues that feeling tends to disappear in most guys (but it still remains in some) and they start to want more dynamic and less easily defendable maps so they can enjoy more of the early and midgame with timing attacks, pushes and all-ins.


Why not both?

3 maps that are experimental/not standard which are balanced but require a new playstyle so they can be vetoed, then rest of maps are standard.

I think Polar Night is just hell for Protoss in general. If there's a playstyle that would allow multifaceted Protoss, Zerg and Terran play (i.e. you have at least some choice of strategy, not just resorting to something like 2 base timing) on that map or any map in general, I don't care how nonstandard it is, I'll play it.

What I like about Sky Island, for example, is the ability to either 2 base timing as Protoss, or (if spawning at 1:30 and 7:30), ninja expand to one of the unused mains and collapse the rocks. I want maps like that.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 07:13:44
September 03 2013 07:12 GMT
#472
My vetoes (so far) are Derelict Watcher, Whirlwind, and Polar Night.

I think Polar Night could be potentially awesome to watch in tournaments, but right now it's too far out there for me to try and figure out with my limited time to play SC2 at the moment. :c Whirlwind I'm just tired of, and there's another big 4 player map in Frost to replace it with (I'll see how things go with Frost, only played 1 game on it so far). Derelict Watcher is... just an awful map IMO.

In other news, I'm really hoping we see Akilon Wastes disappear soon, but it's not unplayable so it remains in my pool for now. Just really silly and BGH-esque.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Prev 1 22 23 24 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 109
CranKy Ducklings12
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech96
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1344
Shuttle 1291
actioN 748
firebathero 747
Horang2 439
EffOrt 325
Mini 236
Soulkey 233
Soma 228
Snow 150
[ Show more ]
Light 99
ZerO 95
Rush 90
Shine 80
Stork 79
Larva 74
Killer 73
Pusan 54
Hm[arnc] 48
Last 43
910 42
Barracks 40
hero 37
soO 26
sSak 24
Sharp 23
Britney 0
Dota 2
ODPixel223
League of Legends
Reynor62
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1167
kennyS695
edward34
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King89
Other Games
singsing1533
byalli658
JimRising 368
XaKoH 181
Sick161
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick747
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 722
Other Games
BasetradeTV39
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 57
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
• Letter148
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2505
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
37m
Replay Cast
13h 37m
KCM Race Survival
23h 37m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
4 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
4 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.