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juicyjames
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On July 26 2013 10:52 Baroninthetree wrote:
I really don't get the IEM DQ things. They already rescheduled Grubby's game but DQed Jim?
My only explanation is they value Korean and European more than Chinese.
It's like the last WCS DQed incident all over again.
And the event is even held in China. How ironic!
Grubby's match was rescheduled because the venue they were at closed (because they're at a trade show which ended). Jim's match was postponed for as long as they could that day so he could deal with his visa issue, but he was not able to make it back in time so he was DQed.
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Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond.
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it makes me so sad they let grubby and oz delay there match but disqualified jim for asking to delay the same exact round :/
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On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond.
why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance?
if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket?
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Wow, if the coach's statement is true, this is pretty much as dumb as it gets. The reason he was late for his matches is because someone else was late for their matches earlier in the day, but they just keep him waiting for 2 hours then DQ him after he is 30 minutes late? Like, wat.
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On July 26 2013 11:03 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 10:52 Baroninthetree wrote:
I really don't get the IEM DQ things. They already rescheduled Grubby's game but DQed Jim?
My only explanation is they value Korean and European more than Chinese.
It's like the last WCS DQed incident all over again.
And the event is even held in China. How ironic! Grubby's match was rescheduled because the venue they were at closed (because they're at a trade show which ended). Jim's match was postponed for as long as they could that day so he could deal with his visa issue, but he was not able to make it back in time so he was DQed.
Well that make sense then.
Still, they DQed Jim due to their schedule makes no sense, since they delayed their schedule on both day due to "technical issue."
Consider China is the host of the event, give Jim a chance is not unreasonable.
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Any conclusion about the discussion now?
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I really want to see him play. Why not just let him play?
Please IEM be a little flexible.
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Shoot. I forgot to tweet at Carmac. Instead I just tweeted @IEM *facepalm*
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Update from the neotv forum, jim is definitely DQ'd this time, but he's going to be given a seed to the next IEM (which will be in New York, so if he doesn't get a visa it still won't work -_-")
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On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket?
Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please"
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On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ...
what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US?
it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway
simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa."
only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that, or it seems that you want to go to US and never leave
Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US?
The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:
1. What are you going to do in the US?
meet my friends, vacation, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week
2. How long will you be staying there?
few days/week
3. Who is paying for your expenses?
myself and my team company that I represent
4. And most importantly, When are you coming back?
after a few days/week on "etc etc date"
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All the big esports organizations hate chinese players apparently. First MLG now IEM. It's kind of a joke that they used the having to follow schedule excuse btw. No big tournaments aside from GSL actually keep up with their promised schedules.
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On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date"
So basically lie your ass off...
Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee.
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On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So because lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee.
change post cause of what?
they reason you tell the Consular can be anything from sightseeing, to meeting friends, to competing in tournament
i just listed more stuff that you can say, when they ask you
its not lying to them if its true that you are there in US to sightsee or playing in a tournament
thats not a immigrant/work visa, thats only a non-immgrant/traveling visa
in fact, you probably dont even have to talk about the tournament, you just want to go to US for a vacation trip
if somehow they think you want to stow away in US and never leave and thus deny your Visa application, just reapply ASAP
since you started 8 months earlier, you have plenty of time to reapply if necessary
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On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee.
Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?"
I am sure that will work out.
Edit: saw you second post. You clearly don't understand how the visa and passport system works. If they figure out you are over here for ANYTHING but your stated purpose, you could end up locked up, deported and never able to travel to the US again. If he wins WCS NA and and the USCIS found out, he would never be able to come back to the US. Spot posting when you have no idea what you are talking about.
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On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out.
Ok so you dont want to give a general reason to them cause you think its lying, then specifically say, "going because of a video game tournament."
and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?
the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever, main thing is that they want to be sure you will return to where you came from
Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance)
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fucking sucks. kid has some unique playstyle and a ton of talent. hes gonna be a beast internationally in no time at all, already owns the korean gms with weird ass strats.
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On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance)
Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. There are tons of countries that we do not let people "just sight see", including China. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about.
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On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about.
Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance?
its only hard if you wait till the last minute
so basically you are saying noone can go to US?
yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament
again, for example thousands of people from around the world go to EVOLUTION Videogame tournament each year
they all start on their visas a year in advance or so
their purpose? sightseeing/play videogames, and they dont get denied
another example, my friends Cousin from China wanted to visit us and then we go to Anaheim Disneyland
he applied for visa many months in advance
while in US, we went to Disneyland, and also Comic-con and other events in LA, did he need to tell the US Consulate that he was going to Comic-con also, going to cosplay also, etc? nope
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