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On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament
No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want.
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On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:03 Doodsmack wrote:
Clearly it was foreseeable by iG and Jim that he wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until after qualifying for the Ro16. It's questionable whether he should even sign up for the tournament under these conditions. He basically took a gamble that he'd be able to play in the Ro16 and beyond. why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance? if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want.
Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland
how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China
not sure if he had to do application multiple times or not
but yes its possible for Chinese to visit US lol
you think there is a ban on Chinese, and dont allow them into US or something?....
getting a visa is not impossible but it may be difficult. US visa officers (in embassies & consulates) are trained to view every applicant (not just Chinese) as a potential illegal immigrant, and are especially suspicious of single, young females. basically has to prove - in advance - he/she will return home (or at least leave the USA) on schedule.
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On July 26 2013 12:13 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:
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why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance?
if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want. Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China
It's obviously because he has family in the US.
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On July 26 2013 12:15 swordboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:13 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:
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Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please"
... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want. Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China It's obviously because he has family in the US.
That fact is lost on him. Clearly there is a huge difference between someone visiting family and a random 17 year old kid saying "I'm coming here for sight seeing and video games".
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On July 26 2013 12:15 swordboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:13 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:
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Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please"
... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want. Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China It's obviously because he has family in the US.
Ok forget that example then if you think family is the major factor
are you saying Chinese people cannot go to US for travelers non-immgrant visa?
complete ban on non-family Chinese or something?
Chinese people have made it to EVOLUTION videogame tournament in US which happens each year
their purpose? to sightsee and play video games
they must have family in US cause if they didnt they would have been banned?
it may be difficult, but its possible, and you may need to try more than once, thats why you gota start early
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On July 26 2013 12:18 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:15 swordboy wrote:On July 26 2013 12:13 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:
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what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US?
it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway
simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa."
only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that
Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US?
The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:
1. What are you going to do in the US?
meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week
2. How long will you be staying there?
few days/week
3. Who is paying for your expenses?
myself and my team company that I represent
4. And most importantly, When are you coming back?
after a few days/week on "etc etc date"
So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want. Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China It's obviously because he has family in the US. Ok forget that example then if you think family is the major factor are you saying Chinese people cannot go to US for sightseeing non-immgrant visa?
complete ban on non-family Chinese or something?it may be difficult, but its possible, and you may need to try more than once, thats why you gota start early
Yes, we are saying that a 17 year old kid can't just get a visa to come over to sight see. That is 100% correct. Student visas get denied when they are fully accepted, with financing and everything.
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On July 26 2013 12:13 mikumegurine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:08 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:05 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 12:03 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 12:00 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:56 Plansix wrote:On July 26 2013 11:48 Assirra wrote:On July 26 2013 11:42 mikumegurine wrote:On July 26 2013 11:34 endy wrote:On July 26 2013 11:06 mikumegurine wrote:
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why not make reservations for plane ticket and apply for visa 8 months in advance?
if you dont make it into round of 16, then just cancel the plane ticket? Read the thread. You just can't show up at the US embassy "Hi I may qualify in 6 month for a video game competition in the US, give me a visa pretty please" ... what? why cant you apply for a visa 6 months in advance to go sightseeing in US? it doesnt matter whether you make it into the round of 16 or not, apply for Visa anyway simply say," I have bought tickets for a trip to US in 8 months, for sightseeing and meeting friends, I want to apply for a non-immigrant visa." only time they reject someone from sightseeing, if if you have a criminal record or some other stuff like that Why cant someone just apply for a visa to visit friends in US? The first thing that one needs to set before even attempting to go to the States is to have a purpose for going there in the first place. That purpose has to be extremely clear at the outset and should answer these four basic questions:1. What are you going to do in the US? meet my friends, and compete in a tournament for a few days/week 2. How long will you be staying there? few days/week 3. Who is paying for your expenses? myself and my team company that I represent 4. And most importantly, When are you coming back? after a few days/week on "etc etc date" So basically lie your ass off... Edit: you changed your post cause there was nothing about playing in a tournament first but just outright lying your are going only to sightsee. Yes, because lieing to USCIS is a GREAT idea. I am sure they will let you back in for Season 3. "Hey guys, going sight seeing again. What? This mouse and keyboard? That's for sight seeing. Wait, you want do you mean I have to come with you? Where?" I am sure that will work out. Its not lying just vacation, you cant go to US for vacation? and okay, if you want to tell them you play video games tournament, whats so bad about that? you think they will deny you because you told them you are going to US for a videogame tournament?the main reason they deny people is if they have criminal records or seem like they want to say in US forever Many people travel to EVOLUTION video game tournament each year in US, i dont know exactly what they tell the US consulars, but they are going for a video game tournament, and they get their visa accepted (which they apply for like atleast 8 months in advance) Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. There are people who are better informed and the difficulties of traveling form China who have said the process takes months and you can't apply until you have evidence as to what you are doing. He can't say "I'm going sightseeing", they will just deny in visa request. Stop posting when you don't know what your talking about. Dude do you know what you are talking about? you think its hard to get a non-immigrant visa for traveling purpose if you do it 8 months in advance? its only hard if you want till the last minute so basically you are saying noone can go to US? yes the process can take months, that why you start very early, no matter if you are in top 16 or not, start applying early, just say you are going to video game tournament No I am saying people from CHINA can't come to the US whenever they please. They need to have a reason and it can't be "sight seeing". Read the read, people from China will confirm this. The US has very poor relations with China and they don't let anyone come over for whatever reason they want. Friends cousin was from Guangzhou, he was able to get to US to visit family and see Disneyland how? cause he applied early and showed he would return to China not sure if he had to do application multiple times or not but yes its possible for Chinese to visit US lol you think there is a ban on Chinese, and dont allow them into US or something?.... getting a visa is not impossible but it may be difficult. US visa officers (in embassies & consulates) are trained to view every applicant (not just Chinese) as a potential illegal immigrant, and are especially suspicious of single, young females. basically has to prove - in advance - he/she will return home (or at least leave the USA) on schedule.
Traveler Visa vs Work Visa... not exactly same thing.
LOL IEM
"You DQ because can't get Visa to US? We invite you to US so you can get DQed again."
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I, as an American, actually received some heat from Netherlands customs when I stopped in Amsterdam for a 3 day extended layover because I didnt have a ticket with me for my flight out of the country back to the US. Customs agents in developed countries are always on the lookout for people who may be trying to enter the country with the intent to stay.
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On July 26 2013 12:27 ragz_gt wrote:
Traveler Visa vs Work Visa... not exactly same thing.
I think way too many in this thread have glossed over this fact. Jim is going to the US to WORK, to make money. In other words, in the eyes of US embassy, he be taking American jobs from hard working Americans.
Basically it boils down to this.
1. It's extra difficult for a Chinese person to get visa to the US, because of the current political climate and the countries' relationships
2. It's extra difficult to get a work visa in the US, because the US is currently not exactly the most welcoming of foreign workers.
3. It's extra difficult to get a visa within a short period of time short of just being a no-brainer visa. And the above two points ensure this.
All things considered, it's not exactly a surprise. Not saying it's impossible, but a Chinese national getting a visa to the US has always been quite a crapshoot. Something you shouldn't count on. However, one must wonder why team IG chose to participate in WCS America knowing all this. This visa issue is hardly a new thing.
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sad news
visa always being a big problem for chinese progamer especially to usa and europe
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On July 26 2013 12:59 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2013 12:27 ragz_gt wrote:
Traveler Visa vs Work Visa... not exactly same thing.
All things considered, it's not exactly a surprise. Not saying it's impossible, but a Chinese national getting a visa to the US has always been quite a crapshoot. Something you shouldn't count on. However, one must wonder why team IG chose to participate in WCS America knowing all this. This visa issue is hardly a new thing.
Because WCS EU and WCS KR are even worse options. WCS EU has worse lag than China <-> NA and WCS KR requires you to live there atm (plus, nobody wants to play against all the Koreans).
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I see a lot of misinformation regarding getting a VISA in the thread. This probably comes from people who have never applied for a VISA. The process can sometimes take a very long time and it costs a fair amount of money too. That's why you don't just randomly get a visa just in case you have to travel overseas to a country that requires it. You can also get denied for any reason and is not a given right like some of you make it out be.
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mikumegurine has no fucking clue about applying visa from china to USA. listen to what the chinese says. I'm from Asia as well and its hard as fuck to get a US Visa. its not like i have money and i can pop over for sightseeing. worse for chinese.
as above mentioned, he is going to US to work, to win money, to take money away from USA citizens. not to splurge on vacation and help stimulate your economy by buying prada and LV.
btw, chinese LoL players have no such problem because Riot made those progamers their staff, a business invite is another case, its much easier. because Riot becomes their company sponsor and will be responsible for all the chinese players doing in USA (pay for their travel, accomm, salary, and even to answer if they flee and become illegal immigrant) . its something blizzard will never do.
EDIT: also just like students, you can't apply for a visa 8 months in advance saying that, I applied for Harvard, I MIGHT make it into Harvard so just give me my visa. see, i have money to study in harvard, i am sure harvard wants me too, so give me the damn visa. it doesnt work this way.........you have to wait for the official admission letter (or official employment letter for a job in USA) then only you can start applying.
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LOL. There are tons of people sitting there and imagining the visa application is like calling the US embassy and saying I want to "pick" my visa from you on a random date I am available.
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Isn't this the same guy who was dq'd from a tournament a while back for playing on someone else's account?
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There're only handful of countries can get Visa to US easily, the rest of the world definitely cannot get Visa to US in a month, let alone couple weeks lol.
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Chinese players should not be allowed to participate WCS. They mess up tournaments. It might be "wrong" but It is always a same thing and three player group is really shitty situation. It better for everyone if they just dont play.
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On July 26 2013 16:39 Relaaja wrote:
Chinese players should not be allowed to participate WCS. They mess up tournaments. It might be "wrong" but It is always a same thing and three player group is really shitty situation. It better for everyone if they just dont play.
People like you should not be allowed to post on TL. They mess up threads. It might be "wrong" but It is always a same thing and dumb posts create really shitty situation. It better for everyone if they just dont post.
more on topic: Really sad for Jim that it went down this way. Falling out of two tourneys in the span of a few hours is pretty harsh. Still hoping that they can work some magic and get the situation sorted out in time, but it seems like that's unlikely. 
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I'll be mad if Jim won't be able to play, was so happy he was going to play in IEM and WCS but if he can't play either I'll be mad, he's so fucking good and has a very interesting style, fuck t.t
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EPT
