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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On July 26 2013 04:27 UnKooL wrote: Wait why would you try a go work on your visa stuff mid tournament? Wait why are you so ignorant after this has been explained many times earlier in the thread An issue where I think iem can be blamed for is if Jim's early matches were delayed. In that case he isn't responsible for having to leave for the appointment and iem should let him play. | ||
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rshawer
178 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:00 rshawer wrote: Here is the problem, Blizzard doesn't do anything when we need them to. When they do something its only when we don't need them to do it. Here is another problem, people don't read the thread or understand that Blizzard can't do anythign to make the USCIS issue Visas | ||
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shmget
118 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:36 dAPhREAk wrote: USCIS is like a 5,000 pound elephant. Blizzard is like a gnat, if that. Blizzard doesnt get to go in to the embassy and say "hey, USCIS, stop following the law, because this dude wants to play video games in 'merica." this is the weirdest thread. of course they can't say 'stop the following' law... since there is no law to stop. there is no law that stipulate that "capricious and random decision shall be made wrt the application of chinese e-sport athlete." And guess what, as was said before, with enough money and the right people to give it too, you'd get anything from the USCIS. Why do you thing so many people tout the merit of 'lobbying'... as if institutionalized corruption was something to be proud about.... | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:15 shmget wrote: of course they can't say 'stop the following' law... since there is no law to stop. there is no law that stipulate that "capricious and random decision shall be made wrt the application of chinese e-sport athlete." And guess what, as was said before, with enough money and the right people to give it too, you'd get anything from the USCIS. Why do you thing so many people tout the merit of 'lobbying'... as if institutionalized corruption was something to be proud about.... This is not true...... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:15 shmget wrote: of course they can't say 'stop the following' law... since there is no law to stop. there is no law that stipulate that "capricious and random decision shall be made wrt the application of chinese e-sport athlete." And guess what, as was said before, with enough money and the right people to give it too, you'd get anything from the USCIS. Why do you thing so many people tout the merit of 'lobbying'... as if institutionalized corruption was something to be proud about.... So what you are saying is that Blizzard should bribe them? I don't think you are fully grasping what people are talking about here. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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shmget
118 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:42 aksfjh wrote: Situations like this really make me want region locks, or at least a requirement on physical presence in the region. Like you did not want that _before_ already ? Situation like this make me want that WCS AM be held in Canada. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:15 shmget wrote: of course they can't say 'stop the following' law... since there is no law to stop. there is no law that stipulate that "capricious and random decision shall be made wrt the application of chinese e-sport athlete." And guess what, as was said before, with enough money and the right people to give it too, you'd get anything from the USCIS. Why do you thing so many people tout the merit of 'lobbying'... as if institutionalized corruption was something to be proud about.... oh my. there are so many false assumptions and blatant misstatements that i am not sure its worth responding to. | ||
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MatiaasS !
Chile167 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
oh, like lonely planet? nope. china confiscates lonely planet travel books. why? because lonely planet has the audacity to recognize taiwan. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:28 dAPhREAk wrote: also, for people bitching about the U.S.'s system, the Chinese system aint so great as well. we did a southeast asia backbacking trip and wanted to go to china from northern vietnam--you know the trains and buses that go across the border. nope. not allowed. you have to buy a plane ticket to go in to the country before you can get the visa. oh, like lonely planet? nope. china confiscates lonely planet travel books. why? because lonely planet has the audacity to recognize taiwan. Somehow that will be blamed on Blizzard. Someone is working on the post right now. | ||
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shmget
118 Posts
On July 26 2013 04:55 skatblast wrote: This is just another reason why the wcs needs to be region locked. I feel bad but at the same time thats what happens when you don't plan ahead. It said they tried getting the visa just one month ago. America isn't the easiest country to gain access too, need more than one month of time. Especially when your from a communist country... Did you even bother to read at least _some_ of this thread ? you CANNOT GET an appointment BEFORE you 1/ Qualify 2/ get an invite letter from the organizer (that is why 1/ is 1/), 3/ have your plane ticket (and you get screwed once they reject your application) 4/ have paid $160 for the B-visa appointment (non refundable) -- which is a _lot_ btw: see http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml Especially when your from a communist country... What does has to do with anything ? beside China is more capitalistic than the US these days, which is incidentally why the US are so upset... they are no so fond at being beaten at their own game.... | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
Kim Phan @kimaphan 9h @RotterdaM08 @dignitasDreAm we will definitely try to help even further | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:39 shmget wrote: Did you even bother to read at least _some_ of this thread ? you CANNOT GET an appointment BEFORE you 1/ Qualify 2/ get an invite letter from the organizer (that is why 1/ is 1/), 3/ have your plane ticket (and you get screwed once they reject your application) 4/ have paid $160 for the B-visa appointment (non refundable) -- which is a _lot_ btw: see http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml What does has to do with anything ? beside China is more capitalistic than the US these days, which is incidentally why the US are so upset... they are no so fond at being beaten at their own game.... Yes, the US denied Jim's visa request because they are mad at China for being better capitalists than they are. This makes perfect sense. | ||
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KnadRa
United States56 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:00 rshawer wrote: Here is the problem, Blizzard doesn't do anything when we need them to. When they do something its only when we don't need them to do it. Your one of those people who immediately comes into a thread, blames Blizzard and leaves. They can't do anything about this, its a Visa issue that is out of their control entirely. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On July 25 2013 19:13 Fionn wrote: Random seventeen-year-old Chinese kid comes out of nowhere to show world class SC2 play and possibly be the first SC2 Chinese superstar that can challenge Koreans. Somehow everything possibly that could go wrong for him goes wrong, pretty much halting the entire hype without him actually losing a match. Sigh  Yeah I was watching him in WCS AM and he was seriously amazing, yet very few people seemed to know about him really--he'd been around before, but recently he's been emerging as a dominant player. Right now it definitely seems like he's on the cusp of getting to that next level :\ hope they can let him play it out, as wax was saying. | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:00 docvoc wrote: Anyway, the only viable solution as mentioned earlier is to avoid the US altogether. let's have the WCS AM somewhere else in the continent... Canada would be a fine choice. NASL is the only org that has experience holding a major SC2 event in Canada, too  And guess who is going to be running WCS Season 2 RO8 onwards and Season 3...? #cometoYVR | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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shmget
118 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:17 Plansix wrote: So what you are saying is that Blizzard should bribe them? I don't think you are fully grasping what people are talking about here. Should? no... but some people says that nothing _could_ be done... other use the euphemism 'lobby'... which is indeed just a nicer word for 'bribe'. so let's call a spade a spade. and yes if you 'lobby' the right set of congressman and/or senator, you could get Jim a visa... there is absolutely no doubt about it... in fact, the person in the embassy would have magically found him perfectly suitable for entry.... no question asked. | ||
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