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On March 25 2015 02:07 Hider wrote:
This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
SO : with the stress, the frustration, with the fact that the dot was pretty small in the mini-map, also that it seems like he really was assuming hard that the proxy was in front of his natural or something like that and that he didn't seem to suspect the rocks at all (he would've sent an scv if he did) and so that he was probably looking elsewhere on the mini-map, it's possible to think that a top tier player could not see this.
And of course, a silver (up to diamond), most of the time, would not have seen it either.
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Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
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Has that Moon game with the perfectly inaccurate baneling mines been added yet?
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What stress and frustration? He was just macroing in his base. Anyway, even with the counterpoints people are making that basically say that progamers can make ridiculous mistakes too, I agree with that, but my point is that it's the level of play Marineking displayed COMBINED with the Pinnacle betting patterns that is so suspicious.
Let's all go to this thread if you guys want to talk about it more in accordance with the mod's wishes.
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You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general.
So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where somethg that was very obvious on the minimap for over a minute without a reacetion from the player. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like...
Good luck with that.
It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. And perhaps also stress of him being in a situation that could ruin his career.
If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable, and given the circumstances it makes a lot of sense.
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he scouted no gas, not pool first, and no natural... it should have been very very obvious to a pro there was a hatchery somewhere. then he does... rax , cc, fac , cc...
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Germany25658 Posts
On March 25 2015 03:01 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general. So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that. It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later.... Show nested quote +
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable.
I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there.
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On March 25 2015 03:04 KadaverBB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 03:01 Hider wrote:You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general. So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that. It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable. I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there.
I still don't know what LR means.
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On March 25 2015 03:04 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 03:04 KadaverBB wrote:On March 25 2015 03:01 Hider wrote:You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general. So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that. It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable. I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there. I still don't know what LR means.
It's the thread I linked to in my previous post in this thread.
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Germany25658 Posts
On March 25 2015 03:04 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2015 03:04 KadaverBB wrote:On March 25 2015 03:01 Hider wrote:You are so disconnected if you really think this. Silver players can spend entire minutes not looking at their ressources at the top right of the screen. Diamond players (don't even try) don't have good mini-map awareness in general. So with all of the potential cannon rushes in low ranked games. I have never in my life seen or heard of a game where something with obvious on the minimap for over a minute and the player didn't react. I dare you to show me one examples of it. This is a "mistake" that noone in Starcraft - from my knowledge - has never commited before. So I challnege you, go through all of the historical games/threads wtf, and show me one examples that matches this level of minimap unawareness. It can be from any league you like... Good luck with that. It even gets worse after 5:35 as he doesn't even need to look at the minimap to see the creep. It's right in his base but he doesn't react till much later....
Stress of what? He wasn't doing anything. He didn't even send his reapers across the map.
Stress of having to fake him not seeing it. If you watch his body movement, he is clearly uncomfortable. I'll say it again, please take it to the LR. Feel free to discuss it there. I still don't know what LR means.
Go here : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/481231-spl-cj-vs-mvp-round-2-2015?page=16 
It means live report thread!
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Youtube link for:
2010-2011 WOL
San Vs Check (Pylon blocking his own Expo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDb8rs47mqY
+ Show Spoiler +It is actually a cannon, not a pylon that is blocking the expo
I might update this post in the future if I decide to look for more games, but don't count on it.
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Lilbow vs Life from WCS 2015 finals Ro16 is definitely the worst series I've ever seen.
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On November 02 2015 10:13 penguinseatsocks wrote:
Lilbow vs Life from WCS 2015 finals Ro16 is definitely the worst series I've ever seen.
yes. it was embarrassingly bad
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Fitting bump. Lilbow vs Life was embarrassing.
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Sadly, yes +1 to Lilbow vs Life
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That series was just soooooo pathetic
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I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
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On November 02 2015 17:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
I dunno, I think the comedic value of watching Life win a Ro16 BLIZZCON series with 3 zergling rushes is worth saving it from being called the worst series.
Terrible games can be entertaining too. Watching Life go from a map specific speedling rush to a baneling bust to a FUCKING SIX POOL was oddly satisfying.
This. I was more than entertained, but then again I'm not French.
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