On July 17 2014 14:20 tokinho wrote: Can i nominate the avilo game from today? in the wcs america qualifier. I made a 12 minute condensed version of it.
Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as fuck when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it. Let me ask you this: What is the probability of Marineking not seeing that Spine?
That alone is less than 0.00001%... Because it has never happened in any bronze + game.
Combine that with odds going crazy once again in favour of Byul and we are down to 0.00000000000001% of MKP not throwing it int.
When we are speaking of these types of probabilities, it's no longer speculation, but we are into evidence.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it.
Proof is an email, or skype conversation or something that directly shows he was paid to throw the match. You have a theory backed by some evidence but it's not irrefutable "proof."
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
No. It'¨s not accusation at this point. It's good enough to call it evidence/proof here. I would in fact bet my house on it.
Proof is an email, or skype conversation or something that directly shows he was paid to throw the match. You have a theory backed by some evidence but it's not irrefutable "proof."
If that was the only way to have evidence, then alot of murderes and thiefs would walk on the street. On top of that, you could always argue someone else wrote the email to keep the 0.0001% probaiblity alive.
FYI, definition of evidence = the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
'He didn't check his minimap, man.'
Right, because that's just something you forget about for five minutes.
This exactly. I was actually looking at him during the game in order to see if he was looking somewhere else on the screen, but he wasn't. And when your looking at the screen you instantly notice it on the minimap.
Honestly the fact that he scouted the spine and didn't react (he's a pro player not a bronze brain dead player, there is no way he just didn't notice) as well as the betting line movements is more than enough evidence. There should be an investigation/punishment/ban for life.
The match was CLEARLY fixed, he threw the game on purpose.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
even if he hasn't seen the spine, it just doesn't make sence that he goes 3CC after scouting no expo from the zerg. I hate to say it because MK is one of my favourite players but when combined with the betting lines it's almost 100% sure that the game was fixed.
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
On March 25 2015 02:27 Charoisaur wrote: even if he hasn't seen the spine, it just doesn't make sence that he goes 3CC after scouting no expo from the zerg. I hate to say it because MK is one of my favourite players but when combined with the betting lines it's almost 100% sure that the game was fixed.
Yeh you could argue that "doesn't make sense" thing is a typically Marineking flaw (I still think that would be debateable, but it's not impossible). But not seeing the minimap on the other hand while staring on the screen and nothing else happening.... that's a different matter...
On March 25 2015 01:49 HolydaKing wrote: Hahahahahaha jesus christ. I missed that game, must have been hilarious as !@#$%^&* when seen live. How can MKP be so blind? He even scouted one building far in advance...
Reason; Marineking
.... Was paid to lose the game on purpose, and the betting lines were insane once again, and Pinnacle closed the betting. Finally, we got some real evidence by just watching the game. Anyone who has played more than 50 games of Starcraft knows that there is no way in hell that you wouldn't spot that Spine on the minimap. And no this isn't just "Marineking". A Marineking thing = Doing mistakes a progamer normally wouldn't made. This is a mistake that a silver league player would never ever make.
Big accusation. I don't think you should say things like this without concrete evidence. TL policy really.
There was also suspicious betting activity on Pinnacle on that match which caused Pinnacle to void the bets. That combined with the mindboggling level of cluelessness Marineking displayed in the match is a very questionable combination.
How often have we been through this though?
This is the first time in history that a pro player hasn't noticed a critical building on the minimap for over a minute. We have never ever seen this type of mistake before. This simply cannot be explained by the irrationalty of Marineking.
EPT
