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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1802 Posts
June 10 2013 19:49 GMT
#21
Theres so many fucking 2 player maps T_T Could've taken out newkirk/derelict and put in Korhal...
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Dreadwolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:51:07
June 10 2013 19:49 GMT
#22
Nice, no Akilon, we are going to see even less protoss in comp play.

Edit: And also this mean map pool isnt unified yet if ESL anounce "their" Map pool.
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
June 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#23
So how are people exited for Red City? the map looks absolutely horrible.
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Zygno
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:11:08
June 10 2013 20:08 GMT
#24
Wtf is up with ESL? Why add Derelict Watcher instead of Akilon? Makes no sense to me, as Derelict isn't a balanced map either.

Played on Red city a few times now and vetoed it. So many fucking chokes.
Still unsure how the new version of Newkirk is gonna be balancewise, probably a good swarmhost map, as 4-5 bases are pretty easy to get.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 10 2013 20:29 GMT
#25
Akilon removed but star station is left? :o
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:32:22
June 10 2013 20:31 GMT
#26
Derelict Watcher over Akilon Wastes is the quite a bad choice.

Derelict Watcher is so bad, one of the worst map.

Also, Red City is a bad map too.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 10 2013 20:41 GMT
#27
This is the problem of integrating WCS with ladder map pool. Blizzard is obviously gradually trying to integrate the map pools of ladder and WCS tournaments. Then Blizzard has a monopoly in map choice within the WCS system and we lost the bottom-up influences to Blizzard's map choice.

When Blizzard chooses some bad maps, WCS tournaments are going to do the same.

We lost the old bottom-up way of influencing Blizzard's map choices from tournament organizers.

After this season, it will no longer be that Blizzard chooses the some good GSL new maps, but that GSL and OSL have to use Blizzard ladder maps. When Blizzard makes some bad choices of ladder maps, all the WCS tournaments are going to adopt this bad choice.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 10 2013 20:43 GMT
#28
derelict watcher sucks, i also heavily dislike red city.
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 10 2013 20:46 GMT
#29
Hmm. RedCity and Derelict are certainly different.

Looks like a lot of 2-base play? 3rds seem really hard to maintain on these.
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
June 10 2013 22:05 GMT
#30
On June 11 2013 05:41 larse wrote:
This is the problem of integrating WCS with ladder map pool. Blizzard is obviously gradually trying to integrate the map pools of ladder and WCS tournaments. Then Blizzard has a monopoly in map choice within the WCS system and we lost the bottom-up influences to Blizzard's map choice.

When Blizzard chooses some bad maps, WCS tournaments are going to do the same.

We lost the old bottom-up way of influencing Blizzard's map choices from tournament organizers.

After this season, it will no longer be that Blizzard chooses the some good GSL new maps, but that GSL and OSL have to use Blizzard ladder maps. When Blizzard makes some bad choices of ladder maps, all the WCS tournaments are going to adopt this bad choice.


Im not sure whats your point: its exactly going in the opposite direction,with GSL/PL/(OSL) maps influecing Blizzard's decision on which ones to put in the ladder pool

Before WCS we had less tournament maps

Not to mention they said they are looking into the TL Map Contest for the next season
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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 22:44:14
June 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#31
Just played a PvZ on Korhal Sky Island on the position with the destructible debris. How do you properly wall off?
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2013 23:07 GMT
#32
Derelict Watcher really isn't a good map... However, there's another new map that's even worse
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2013 23:08 GMT
#33
Also... did people really hate Akilon Wastes that much? I found it to actually be quite dynamic in both style, length and options... I'm not saying I'm a huge fan of the map... But I'm a fan of the diversity it brought to the game...
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 10 2013 23:11 GMT
#34
On June 11 2013 07:43 o29 wrote:
Just played a PvZ on Korhal Sky Island on the position with the destructible debris. How do you properly wall off?


...played this map today (I played random - rolled terran) against a zerg... Had he done any 6-10 pool, I think I would have straight up died... Seemed impossible to wall off correctly in time... I mean... He went 14 pool 15 hatch and made just 6 lings, and somehow I ended up not taking damage... But a 14 pool + 6 lings could easilly do dmg, when people are not prepared. Being random, if I'm in these positions and I roll zerg I'll just fastpool any P and T I get... Sorry... But it seems ludacris to not do it
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 10 2013 23:12 GMT
#35
oh wtf Akilon was a good map. Yet they keep in that crapfest Newirk Precinct?

blah.

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