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[Interview] Code S Ro4 Day 2 2013 WCS KR Season 1

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Where dat snitch at?36999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 13:05:01
May 23 2013 16:00 GMT
#1
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  • 2013 WCS Europe Season 1 Premier League Grand Finals Winner Interview



(T)STX SouL INnoVation

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Source: This Is Game

How do you feel about advancing to your first finals ever?

At the start of this season, I told myself that I wanted to grab the championship no matter what. I am so close to making this goal become a reality that I am really glad. I have always wanted to play on a finals stage so I am really excited to making this dream come true.

Did you focus on anything specific as you were preparing for your match against Symbol?

I believed that Symbol knew all there was to know about roach related attacks so I put a lot of thought into that area during my preparations. Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost. I did get a little affected by that. However, overall, I just told myself to safely progress to the late game for all my games today.

The series was going really well for you as you won games one, two, and three in a row.

Everything went according to plan. I was also in a good situation. In fact, the situation was even better than during practice. I couldn't help but think that I was going to make it through easily today. Of course I did face some difficulties afterwards because I let my guard down.

Why did you decide to do a proxy rax build for game two on Star Station?

I just decided to try it out for once (laughs). I figured I needed to throw in stuff like that since it was a bo7 series. I also figured that Star Station was a good map for a strategy like that.

Did you expect a sOs vs Soulkey all the way to game 7 scenario to come out?

I did see it as a possibility. I was feeling uneasy. But thankfully game six went well for me so I avoided a game seven.

You showed us a mixed composition with tanks for game six.

I secretly saw his hidden baneling nest with my medivac. I figured that I would win as long as I successfully defended against that and eventually that resulted in a lot of tanks.

You must have been very cautious of nydus plays as you prepared for today's match.

I assumed that an all in was coming at me for game three. Thankfully, I was able to quickly figure out that a drop was heading my way. For today's match, I put the most priority on nydus plays. But in the end, it only came out once. Now that I think about it, I think Symbol probably would have broken through eventually had he kept going with nydus plays.

Did you have a lot of help from coach (Z)Calm?

Even though Monday through Thursday were our break days, Calm hyung really helped me out a lot. He really helped me figure out strategies for each map. I am really grateful and I hope he also helps me out for the finals.

You probably didn't have enough practice partners. Was that difficult?

I didn't really play any games on Monday and Tuesday. Instead, I just focused on coming up with build orders and did a lot of thinking. But from here on out, I'm going to earnestly focus on my upcoming match and work really hard.

All season long, you just went on and took down all the powerful Zerg players. Now only Soulkey remains.

I feel like he's the final boss. In my opinion, Soulkey hyung is phenomenal when it comes to ZvTs. I realized just how strong he was when I lost to him in Proleague. I am expecting the match to be a difficult one. But it is going to be a televised match so there's a chance that his true skills won't shine through and I'll be able to take the victory. If I do end up winning, I think the score will probably be something like 4-2. 4-1 is also a possibility.

Soulkey stated today in YongSan that it will be difficult for you to find practice partners who play like he does.

I think that's true. There really aren't a lot of Zerg players out there that are like Soulkey hyung. I also plan on only practicing with my Zerg teammates so I probably just won't really pay attention to that.

Anything else you would like to say?

I have something I need to say today (laughs). A lot of people cheered me on and had lots of expectations for me. I am so relieved that I was able to win today. I also want to thank my family for always caring for me. I am glad that I was able to repay all their kindness with my results. Since I've made it to the finals like this, I want to do my absolute best so that I can win the championship.



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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 23 2013 16:02 GMT
#2
Thanks Seeker
HandA711
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
202 Posts
May 23 2013 16:10 GMT
#3
so that's what Calm is doing.

Can't wait for the finals. It's been a long time since a non-zerg won GSL.
hakuna matata
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 23 2013 16:27 GMT
#4
Thanks Seeker! I'm just glad the finals won't be another ZvZ. Hopefully Innovation will get the win, it is time to dethrone the Zerg from winning the past 3 championships.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 23 2013 16:35 GMT
#5
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33296 Posts
May 23 2013 16:36 GMT
#6
the big-nosed one continues his rampage
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 23 2013 16:37 GMT
#7
Thanks Seeker
Refer to my post.
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
May 23 2013 16:38 GMT
#8
There is no stopping Innovation. Calling 4-1 right now.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
May 23 2013 16:39 GMT
#9
I'm excited for the finals. Thanks for the interview.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
May 23 2013 16:40 GMT
#10
Thanks Seeker. Definitely the finals I wanted. Having high expectations for the games, and hoping that Innovation takes it.
Flash | Mvp
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 23 2013 16:42 GMT
#11
I like the idea that those finalists can't find practice partners who play "like" (read, "at the level of" :D) their opponent.
These guys are at the top of their respective race, it won't be easy to prepare, indeed.
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 23 2013 16:48 GMT
#12
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


The thing is, with top KeSPA players, a show of confidence doesn't determine champions. It's always 50-50 somehow.

My bet goes to Soulkey. 4-2.
still alive
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 23 2013 16:49 GMT
#13
Coach Calm the real brains behind the innovation.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 16:51:31
May 23 2013 16:50 GMT
#14
Yeah, Soulkey is definitely monstrous as well. This could be the best finals ever. Or yet another roflstomp, but I don't like to think about it.
I think Innovation will win, but I'm rooting for Soulkey, in fact. :D

Edit: Shit I missed this:
I believed that Symbol knew all there was to know about roach related attacks

lololol, you don't say.
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 23 2013 16:57 GMT
#15
On May 24 2013 01:49 Caihead wrote:
Coach Calm the real brains behind the innovation.


It's so awesome for Calm to be helping out like this. Remember his epic game vs Flash in BW? :D The 35 minute slugfest.
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Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
May 23 2013 17:16 GMT
#16
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 23 2013 17:17 GMT
#17
Good luck in the finals Bogus!
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 23 2013 17:20 GMT
#18
BoGus vs Soulkey, I don't know why I am so proud. But once again i shall say it. Called it at the end of wol!
rip prime
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
May 23 2013 17:24 GMT
#19
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

MVPs play was never the most stellar at times, and that's not what I remember him for, he innovated the Terran matchup multiples times and got things nerfed, his ability just to read opponents styles and crush them was made him a true champion.
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fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 23 2013 17:28 GMT
#20
Inno won't be able to find a similar training partner to SK, but honestly if SK wants, he should just train against Flash, assuming Flash/KT is willing to train with him. Inno/Flash plays very similarly tbh.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 23 2013 17:40 GMT
#21
On May 24 2013 02:24 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

MVPs play was never the most stellar at times, and that's not what I remember him for, he innovated the Terran matchup multiples times and got things nerfed, his ability just to read opponents styles and crush them was made him a true champion.

Seems to me that neither of you were around when Mvp started his reign of terror, he dominated in every possible way a starcraft player can dominate another.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 23 2013 17:41 GMT
#22
--- Nuked ---
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 23 2013 17:56 GMT
#23
On May 24 2013 02:40 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 02:24 Daogin wrote:
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

MVPs play was never the most stellar at times, and that's not what I remember him for, he innovated the Terran matchup multiples times and got things nerfed, his ability just to read opponents styles and crush them was made him a true champion.

Seems to me that neither of you were around when Mvp started his reign of terror, he dominated in every possible way a starcraft player can dominate another.

This.
People should start watching MVP against back in 2011 where he rape everyone and won many major tourneys in just a short few months.
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
May 23 2013 18:03 GMT
#24
if Inno don't win this my hopes are over for korean terrans ~_~
i balance whine all the time.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
May 23 2013 18:05 GMT
#25
On May 24 2013 02:56 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 02:40 IshinShishi wrote:
On May 24 2013 02:24 Daogin wrote:
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

MVPs play was never the most stellar at times, and that's not what I remember him for, he innovated the Terran matchup multiples times and got things nerfed, his ability just to read opponents styles and crush them was made him a true champion.

Seems to me that neither of you were around when Mvp started his reign of terror, he dominated in every possible way a starcraft player can dominate another.

This.
People should start watching MVP against back in 2011 where he rape everyone and won many major tourneys in just a short few months.


yea no idea what they are talking about, MVP would just have everything going for him in matches. It was honestly breathtaking back then.
Sc2 always got your back
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 23 2013 18:15 GMT
#26
he sure got a hang of the game fast. progressing much faster than flash.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 23 2013 18:20 GMT
#27
Well...actually Idk about Mvp being that dominate.
He absolutely breezed through the offline events quite handedily.
but in online events, he looked very vulnerable.
Mvp also contributed to almost nothing in GSTL for his team who relied on guys like LosirA, yonghwa, and Yoda to win.
But Mvp was solid in every match up.

I think for MVPs run, he was dominant but to a certain degree.


Then case for Innovation.
He has won absolutely nothing so you cant compare him to the legends of Starcraft, but he has looked near (not fully) invincible in TvZ, TvP match ups. He's looked really shaky in TvT though, that it is a concern.
He's dominating the individual league but at the same time, he's carrying his STX Soul team hard...to the degree that they'd likely be 6-7th without him. In this case, his little run right now is reminescient of Jaedong/Flash's moreso than MVPs.
He's looked brilliant in both online/offline tournaments as well
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
May 23 2013 18:23 GMT
#28
On May 24 2013 02:41 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 01:36 Waxangel wrote:
the big-nosed one continues his rampage
My girlfriend looked at my screen and called him the most unattractive Korean she has ever seen :/


I couldn't care less though as long as he beats Soulkey. Preferably with as many widow mines and hellbats as possible ^^


his nose isn't that big, just flat or something
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
May 23 2013 18:28 GMT
#29
On May 24 2013 03:20 LighT. wrote:
Well...actually Idk about Mvp being that dominate.
He absolutely breezed through the offline events quite handedily.
but in online events, he looked very vulnerable.
Mvp also contributed to almost nothing in GSTL for his team who relied on guys like LosirA, yonghwa, and Yoda to win.
But Mvp was solid in every match up.

I think for MVPs run, he was dominant but to a certain degree.


Then case for Innovation.
He has won absolutely nothing so you cant compare him to the legends of Starcraft, but he has looked near (not fully) invincible in TvZ, TvP match ups. He's looked really shaky in TvT though, that it is a concern.
He's dominating the individual league but at the same time, he's carrying his STX Soul team hard...to the degree that they'd likely be 6-7th without him. In this case, his little run right now is reminescient of Jaedong/Flash's moreso than MVPs.
He's looked brilliant in both online/offline tournaments as well


Well clearly Bogus is MVP, since MVP innovates a lot .
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 18:30:33
May 23 2013 18:28 GMT
#30
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

Then obviously you didn't catch much of his play in 2011. It was ridiculous how easily he crushed everyone by just picking good builds and playing regular macro games, especially against Terran. For a good while he was heavily favored no matter who his opponent was.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
May 23 2013 21:36 GMT
#31
On May 24 2013 02:28 fluidin wrote:
Inno won't be able to find a similar training partner to SK, but honestly if SK wants, he should just train against Flash, assuming Flash/KT is willing to train with him. Inno/Flash plays very similarly tbh.

Well KT and Woongjin are best friends team so Flash will surely practice with SK if he asks. That plus Flash lost to bogus in ro16.
Woo Jung Ho
funKy_KroK
Profile Joined June 2009
France101 Posts
May 23 2013 21:39 GMT
#32
Why Soulkey was in the OGN studio today ? There was some special event at YongSan ?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#33
haha i found it a bit amusing to see that IM fans instantly took the mvp bait (and only im fans)
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ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
May 23 2013 22:22 GMT
#34
Thank you Seeker!
SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 01:05:21
May 24 2013 01:05 GMT
#35
On May 24 2013 06:41 opterown wrote:
haha i found it a bit amusing to see that IM fans instantly took the mvp bait (and only im fans)

lol.

Innovation such a boss! It's also nice that he's not high and mighty but instead considers that Symbol could've beaten him, he's certainly got humility which is a good thing imo Thanks Seeker!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
May 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#36
On May 24 2013 10:05 BigFan wrote:

Innovation such a boss! It's also nice that he's not high and mighty but instead considers that Symbol could've beaten him, he's certainly got humility which is a good thing imo Thanks Seeker!


Kinda wish people would remember this when they throw Innovation under the bus for expectations other people (ahem, tastosis) give him. He's about the most humble dude there is.
STX Fighting!
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 02:49:17
May 24 2013 02:42 GMT
#37
On May 24 2013 03:28 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 02:16 Markwerf wrote:
On May 24 2013 01:35 ACrow wrote:
Thanks Seeker!
I've never seen a player in SC2 since the days of MVP-with-healthy-wrists being so secure and dominating in his play and radiating this much confidence like Innovation. He is taking this championship, 100%.


MVP never looked dominating to me, he just seemed to scramble and do weird timings or good strategic choices and win that way. Innovation just feels different with an incredibly solid standard game where he seems to do nothing special yet wins quite easily.
Moving out killing creep, operating on 3 bases and just slowly killing the zerg and it feels like Zerg can't do anything.

Then obviously you didn't catch much of his play in 2011. It was ridiculous how easily he crushed everyone by just picking good builds and playing regular macro games, especially against Terran. For a good while he was heavily favored no matter who his opponent was.

MVP was also the only A-team Kespa player to switch to SC2 at that time. So that level of domination was expected when you have such a significant advantage over players who didn't have the same degree of experience. Switch any Kespa A-Teamer with MVP around that time and the result would have been the same or better. MVP clearly dominated but it's also clear that it wasn't against the best of the best either.

Besides that...Great interview! This upcoming match shall truly be a clash of titans!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 24 2013 02:45 GMT
#38
Thanks for the translation!
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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 24 2013 03:03 GMT
#39
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36999 Posts
May 24 2013 03:07 GMT
#40
On May 24 2013 12:03 kubiks wrote:
Show nested quote +
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.

You are correct. I think TIG messed up on that one.
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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 24 2013 03:18 GMT
#41
On May 24 2013 12:07 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 12:03 kubiks wrote:
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.

You are correct. I think TIG messed up on that one.


Sorry for doubting you, your traductions are always awesome

But anyway he didn't do 2 roach attack in a row with the second one succesfull, so my guess is that "roach attack" was "all-in" and daybreak was "red city". But then it seems stupid for him to say that, considering that symbol was already at 3 chesse/all-in in a row :D.
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xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 24 2013 03:39 GMT
#42
where will be the finals?

and

what was doing soulkey today?
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SonZHi
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong30 Posts
May 24 2013 04:25 GMT
#43
On May 24 2013 02:41 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On May 24 2013 01:36 Waxangel wrote:
the big-nosed one continues his rampage
My girlfriend looked at my screen and called him the most unattractive Korean she has ever seen :/


I couldn't care less though as long as he beats Soulkey. Preferably with as many widow mines and hellbats as possible ^^

Your girlfriend so jealous she's not as attractive as Innovation.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2101 Posts
May 24 2013 04:44 GMT
#44
Innovation isn't that bad looking. He looks a lot better with glasses on, too.

Anyway, he's so friendly and nice, it's hard not to like Innovation! Just look at that closing statement. Really hope he gets wins the finals. I think he should do pretty well in macro games, it really just depends on what kind of shenanigans Soulkey can do, I think. I actually thought Symbol might be a harder opponent for Innovation simply because he has so many all-ins and cheeses to use.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 24 2013 04:59 GMT
#45
Ah man, Bogus is just such a likeable guy. Makes it really hard to root for SK :-(( (((((((
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
May 24 2013 05:00 GMT
#46
On May 24 2013 12:39 xuanzue wrote:
where will be the finals?

and

what was doing soulkey today?

UNQILO AX Hall.

Probably watching the match at the team house?
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?36999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 05:31:13
May 24 2013 05:30 GMT
#47
On May 24 2013 12:18 kubiks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 12:07 Seeker wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:03 kubiks wrote:
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.

You are correct. I think TIG messed up on that one.


Sorry for doubting you, your traductions are always awesome

But anyway he didn't do 2 roach attack in a row with the second one succesfull, so my guess is that "roach attack" was "all-in" and daybreak was "red city". But then it seems stupid for him to say that, considering that symbol was already at 3 chesse/all-in in a row :D.

What do you mean when you say traduction?
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 24 2013 05:43 GMT
#48
Flash eliminated Bogus from the last Brood War OSL, and the only upset there was that Bogus managed to take a game off of Flash earlier to begin with. I didn't follow BW too closely, so that earlier loss was a shock to me as I considered Bogus to be this random awful player (not helped by him going ~3-9 in his first few proleague appearances). It's funny how things can turn around, I wonder what his career trajectory would have been had he continued playing Brood War. I doubt he would have caught up to Flash, and honestly, I think Flash will overtake him in Starcraft 2 because of his more idiosyncratic (yet solid) way of approaching the game, but for now he is just doing so well.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 24 2013 05:54 GMT
#49
On May 24 2013 14:43 Grumbels wrote:
Flash eliminated Bogus from the last Brood War OSL, and the only upset there was that Bogus managed to take a game off of Flash earlier to begin with. I didn't follow BW too closely, so that earlier loss was a shock to me as I considered Bogus to be this random awful player (not helped by him going ~3-9 in his first few proleague appearances). It's funny how things can turn around, I wonder what his career trajectory would have been had he continued playing Brood War. I doubt he would have caught up to Flash, and honestly, I think Flash will overtake him in Starcraft 2 because of his more idiosyncratic (yet solid) way of approaching the game, but for now he is just doing so well.

You weren't following PL closely enough. Imo, in term of gameplay, Bogus was top3-4 terran toward the end of bw, and albeit there was a big gap between him and the two, he was playing better and better.
Combined with the fact that I held Soulkey as the best zerg in the world toward the end of bw, this final pleases me quite a lot, I might even watch it
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 24 2013 06:04 GMT
#50
On May 24 2013 14:30 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 12:18 kubiks wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:07 Seeker wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:03 kubiks wrote:
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.

You are correct. I think TIG messed up on that one.


Sorry for doubting you, your traductions are always awesome

But anyway he didn't do 2 roach attack in a row with the second one succesfull, so my guess is that "roach attack" was "all-in" and daybreak was "red city". But then it seems stupid for him to say that, considering that symbol was already at 3 chesse/all-in in a row :D.

What do you mean when you say traduction?

Traduction is French for translation.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
intmastad
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)38 Posts
May 24 2013 07:48 GMT
#51
If kespa players switched sc2 when sc2 had been made, mvp wont exist. Maybe he could go code a ,however Kespa player would dominate everything
seoul
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 17:24:14
May 24 2013 17:23 GMT
#52
On May 24 2013 14:43 Grumbels wrote:
Flash eliminated Bogus from the last Brood War OSL, and the only upset there was that Bogus managed to take a game off of Flash earlier to begin with. I didn't follow BW too closely, so that earlier loss was a shock to me as I considered Bogus to be this random awful player (not helped by him going ~3-9 in his first few proleague appearances). It's funny how things can turn around, I wonder what his career trajectory would have been had he continued playing Brood War. I doubt he would have caught up to Flash, and honestly, I think Flash will overtake him in Starcraft 2 because of his more idiosyncratic (yet solid) way of approaching the game, but for now he is just doing so well.


Attempting to compare anyone to Flash (or Fantasy for that matter) at the end of BW is a bit silly. Bogus was ranked in the 5-6 range for Terran overall. He was also runner up for rookie of the year when he came out. He wasn't dominant, but he was the Ace on his team, and had some upside. Macro was always his strong point, mechanics were not. It's obvious SC2 fits him much better than BW does, but it's not like he was an awful player in BW or some B-teamer like so many of the players that switched early on. He was pretty solid.
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
May 24 2013 19:46 GMT
#53
On May 25 2013 02:23 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 14:43 Grumbels wrote:
Flash eliminated Bogus from the last Brood War OSL, and the only upset there was that Bogus managed to take a game off of Flash earlier to begin with. I didn't follow BW too closely, so that earlier loss was a shock to me as I considered Bogus to be this random awful player (not helped by him going ~3-9 in his first few proleague appearances). It's funny how things can turn around, I wonder what his career trajectory would have been had he continued playing Brood War. I doubt he would have caught up to Flash, and honestly, I think Flash will overtake him in Starcraft 2 because of his more idiosyncratic (yet solid) way of approaching the game, but for now he is just doing so well.


Attempting to compare anyone to Flash (or Fantasy for that matter) at the end of BW is a bit silly. Bogus was ranked in the 5-6 range for Terran overall. He was also runner up for rookie of the year when he came out. He wasn't dominant, but he was the Ace on his team, and had some upside. Macro was always his strong point, mechanics were not. It's obvious SC2 fits him much better than BW does, but it's not like he was an awful player in BW or some B-teamer like so many of the players that switched early on. He was pretty solid.


Makes me kind of sad for some reason that Bogus was the last STX BW Ace. For me it was always July, Calm, Shuttle, and god damn Hwasin that made the core (despite July being way out of his prime).
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 24 2013 19:56 GMT
#54
On May 24 2013 15:04 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 14:30 Seeker wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:18 kubiks wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:07 Seeker wrote:
On May 24 2013 12:03 kubiks wrote:
Symbol went for a roach attack on Daybreak so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game and that's why I lost.

so I excluded the possibility of another roach attack in the next game

so I excluded the possibility of a roach attack

Innovation you silly boy....

And by the way the traduction looks a bit off, because he didn't lost the game after daybreak to a roach attack.

You are correct. I think TIG messed up on that one.


Sorry for doubting you, your traductions are always awesome

But anyway he didn't do 2 roach attack in a row with the second one succesfull, so my guess is that "roach attack" was "all-in" and daybreak was "red city". But then it seems stupid for him to say that, considering that symbol was already at 3 chesse/all-in in a row :D.

What do you mean when you say traduction?

Traduction is French for translation.


It's also English for translation...
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