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Naemesis
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands24 Posts
May 12 2013 13:08 GMT
#1
I think it's safe to say we've all heard about the new "choose ability" hotkey and how rebinding it to your keyboard can help speed up certain game mechanics. I've been trying to come up with a way to use this method to speed up my injection method and I believe I have come up with a method that is even faster and more comfortable to use than the normal backspace method.

The way it works is as follows:

You take three buttons on your keyboard that are next to eachother and don't have any other function (while having your queen selected). Personally I've been using CTRL + Q/W/E. I've got an extra button on my mouse rebound to CTRL so it's especially easy for me this way, but any other 3 keys will work even without the CTRL modifier.

The first key (in my case CTRL + Q) is bound to "base camera". Hitting this key will scroll through your bases as you normally would with backspace.

The second key (in my case CTRL + W) is bound to the queen's "spawn larvae" ability.

The third key (in my case CTRL + E) is bound to the "choose ability" hotkey that is normally only bound to the left mouse button.

Now, you might have guessed it, you can now spam these three keys consecutively to inject all your bases. Because they are next to eachother and in a convenient position on the keyboard it should be possible for you to do this very quickly. The only thing you have to make sure of is that your mouse pointer is positioned in the middle of your screen as you would with the backspace method.

The advantage of this method over the backspace method is that it's much more convenient since you don't have to hold shift and you only use your keyboard.
mau5mat
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Northern Ireland461 Posts
May 12 2013 13:28 GMT
#2
Is there anything Terran would use with this method? Ghosts/Mules?
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 13:39:25
May 12 2013 13:28 GMT
#3
Nevermind, my mistake. Continue!
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 12 2013 14:02 GMT
#4
I'm a zerg nub. What is the backspace method?
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Naemesis
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands24 Posts
May 12 2013 14:06 GMT
#5
On May 12 2013 23:02 TRaFFiC wrote:
I'm a zerg nub. What is the backspace method?

Backspace is the default hotkey to "scroll" through your bases. In other words, hitting backspace once will position the camera over your first hatchery and hitting it consecutively will position the camera over all your bases one after another.

Now, by selecting all your queens and holding shift, you can alternate clicking on a hatchery and pressing backspace to quickly inject all of your bases. (For this to work properly you have to have at least one queen with 25 energy per hatchery).
dabosaur
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden95 Posts
May 12 2013 14:08 GMT
#6
Hmm, seems smart! You should add for people to not rebind "Choose ability" hotkey to left mouse tho, just add as secondary so there's no missunderstandings ^^
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
May 12 2013 14:08 GMT
#7
pretty interesting but it's still a tad unclear to me.

can you make a youtube video and show it in practice?
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iSHOKZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany138 Posts
May 12 2013 14:10 GMT
#8
A video showing this method would be nice,
i can't really imagine it. Thanks
Sunrunner
Profile Joined July 2011
United States80 Posts
May 12 2013 14:20 GMT
#9
I think I get it.

The mouse is over the middle of your screen.
The first key centers your screen over your hatchery.
The second key is inject larvae.
The third key "clicks" the cursor which is over the hatchery in the middle of your screen.

The first key then moves to the next hatchery.

It sounds brilliantly fast.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
May 12 2013 14:24 GMT
#10
This sounds really neat, not to mention easy to pick up. Shame I can't use it for multiple reasons.
I'm glad the left click commands are finally being experimented with.

Well done.
Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
May 12 2013 14:24 GMT
#11
sounds to me fastest way to do that by far? if I understand it correctly

would be nice if there's a short youtube video explaining it
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 12 2013 14:25 GMT
#12
Correct me if I am wrong, because I don't see anything wrong with this for ladder, but in a hypothetical competition (think GSL, MLG etc) are you allowed to rebind keys to your mouse? I was always under the impression that was if not frowned upon, against the tournament rules.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 12 2013 14:27 GMT
#13
I dont really understand how this could be fast than the backspace method?
here you have to press THREE keys for each inject.

With backspace method, you just have to select the ability once and then hold shift.
After that its only TWO actions for each inject (backspace, left click).

So how is this better?
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Naemesis
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands24 Posts
May 12 2013 14:32 GMT
#14
On May 12 2013 23:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, because I don't see anything wrong with this for ladder, but in a hypothetical competition (think GSL, MLG etc) are you allowed to rebind keys to your mouse? I was always under the impression that was if not frowned upon, against the tournament rules.

You don't need to rebind anything to the mouse. I was just using the example of the CTRL button on my mouse as a way for grid users to still have the buttons in a convenient place without having to rebind others. If you're not using grid, Q, W and E do nothing while having your queen selected and you wouldn't need CTRL at all.
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 14:33:29
May 12 2013 14:32 GMT
#15
On May 12 2013 23:27 MasterReY wrote:
I dont really understand how this could be fast than the backspace method?
here you have to press THREE keys for each inject.

With backspace method, you just have to select the ability once and then hold shift.
After that its only TWO actions for each inject (backspace, left click).

So how is this better?

The third command, Ctrl+E, replaces the left click.

I don't know about you, but clicking slows me down a lot when using backspace injects.

On May 12 2013 23:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, because I don't see anything wrong with this for ladder, but in a hypothetical competition (think GSL, MLG etc) are you allowed to rebind keys to your mouse? I was always under the impression that was if not frowned upon, against the tournament rules.

It's not rebinding keys, it's adding an alternate key for a command commonly used with the mouse.
Sunrunner
Profile Joined July 2011
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 14:33:03
May 12 2013 14:32 GMT
#16
On May 12 2013 23:27 MasterReY wrote:
I dont really understand how this could be fast than the backspace method?
here you have to press THREE keys for each inject.

With backspace method, you just have to select the ability once and then hold shift.
After that its only TWO actions for each inject (backspace, left click).

So how is this better?


Probably depends on the player. I know that for me, my mouse speed pales in comparison to my keyboard speed so losing the mouse click would be very helpful.
Naemesis
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands24 Posts
May 12 2013 14:33 GMT
#17
On May 12 2013 23:27 MasterReY wrote:
I dont really understand how this could be fast than the backspace method?
here you have to press THREE keys for each inject.

With backspace method, you just have to select the ability once and then hold shift.
After that its only TWO actions for each inject (backspace, left click).

So how is this better?

The three keys are next to eachother so (in my experience at least) it is faster to click them consecutively than to alternate backspace and left click. However, the real advantage is that it is overall a simpler method (since the keys are next to eachother and in a very convenient spot) so it requires less "brain power" so to speak.
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
May 12 2013 14:37 GMT
#18
I've been doing the following:

backslash (\) is control group 0 (the control group I keep for my queens).
Minus (-) is base camera
and Equals (=) is larva inject

This sounds crazy because its all on the otherside of the keyboard, but it helps me separate my larva injects physicall from everything else, which helps me both remind myself and make sure I'm not doing anything else while larva injecting.
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Naemesis
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands24 Posts
May 12 2013 14:37 GMT
#19
On May 12 2013 23:20 Sunrunner wrote:
I think I get it.

The mouse is over the middle of your screen.
The first key centers your screen over your hatchery.
The second key is inject larvae.
The third key "clicks" the cursor which is over the hatchery in the middle of your screen.

The first key then moves to the next hatchery.

It sounds brilliantly fast.

This is exactly how it works.
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
May 12 2013 14:39 GMT
#20
You are missing an important step here; you have to select all of your queens first. So no its not just 3 buttons. Second I can't seem to hotkey larva inject to "control+w" it only allows "w". This means you have to let off of control and remember to hit control again for e, easy to mess up in the heat of battle.
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