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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
May 10 2013 01:02 GMT
#1481
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:05:29
May 10 2013 01:02 GMT
#1482
Good thing for both sides to be honest.. IdrA is getting at the age that he should do something with his life..

Only good things will come out of this

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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#1483
On May 10 2013 09:36 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:33 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:28 Puph wrote:
This is stupid. Tell me, who was NOT aware that IdrA believes we are Twitch.tv chat spamming pieces of shit? Because we are. This is what we do. We crowd in IdrA's channel and shout obscenities. I don't see a problem with IdrA calling us out on it because if we did not see it, we would be blind.



That's exactly Idra's mistake that cost him his job. Not such a smart move to generalize and assume that "all" people are the same, is it?

Kind of like stereotyping don't you think?

We aren't all "fucks" that spam stream-chats. Most of us don't even use stream-chats. Most of the community are not trolls. Most of the community is actually a mature, genuinely interested audience.

Teams like EG don't want to alienate their customers. It's like owning a bakery and telling customers that walk in "you are a fat fuck, can't believe you eat my pastries HAHA" . . .


Agreed. The 4k viewers in Idra's channel aren't the entire SC2 community. Of the 4k in his channel probably only 300 use the chat. That damn sure doesn't represent the community. And just like Destiny's chat was only visibly full of trolls doesn't mean everyone who followed destiny was a troll that thrived on douchebaggery. If your only way of getting viewers is calling people trash, fucks, and saying the game balancers should take a tire iron up the ass then you don't deserve to have viewers. That's not content and it's not entertaining. People want to see skillfull players or players that give back to the community in streams. Idra did neither.


I actually like chatting during streams, but I stopped watching IdrA's stream because he was too lazy to police his chat ...
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
May 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#1484
On May 10 2013 10:01 pieisamazing wrote:
if he continues in sc2, hopefully he'll join a team that wont stunt his growth as a player like eg did


I really hope you're being sarcastic.
Tz1k1
Profile Joined December 2011
England6 Posts
May 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#1485
On May 10 2013 09:43 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:39 Tz1k1 wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:32 Wingblade wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:27 Tz1k1 wrote:
Honestly think EG made a mistake here.

IdrA is the only reason i personally followed anything to do with EG, their other players or InControl's shitty jokes.

IdrA made EG, and to be honest its called EVIL Genius. Bad mouthing people is kinda of in the name. frankly the community has been slamming idra everytime i see his streams, so what if he snaps and hits back? isnt he entitled to? bot he and everyone else knows he isnt "paid" to bad mouth the community, but he is paid to be a member of it, and when the community bad mouths him, the same community he's paid to interact with, the same community that either loves or hates him for his bad manners. Then no matter how you look at it, he IS paid to bad mouth people. Its how he's been recognised, its how he brought EG to be noticed, and its what we expect of him.


in all sincerity i hope to see Greg stay in the sc2 scene as a Pro Gamer, and i hope he destroys everyone in EG he faces. There are only about 2 people in EG worth keeping. Geoff and Bryce suck (result wise).


Great you followed EG only because of IdrA. Other people, more levelheaded and interested in someone's skill and results than how BM they are followed Eg because they had actual good players who were actually competitive. IdrA, in the pro scene, is not good nor is he competitive anymore. He couldn't get top 16 GM for SHOUTcraft in NA. Long way from someone who was a top foreigner in 2011. He doesn't produce results and he hasn't accomplished anything besides giving the proverbial finger to the entire community in at least six months.

Goodbye IdrA. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.



E-sports, and in fact any sport, is primarily about entertainment. and Idra entertaind with his bad manners. the only reason people make money in sports is because it entertains the fans / community.

as for results, how many result has incontrol gotten? huk? machine? Incontrol doesnt win a damn thing or even place that well in them. by your logic he should be dropped to, but he isnt. because for some reason people like him.


Incontrol, machine and huk dont tell the fans they are worthless pieces of shit either.

IdrA brought this on himself, EG are not being cruel or unreasonable. They will remain amongst the top eSport teams while IdrA will probably fade away.


machine, incontrol and huk dont get the abuse idra does, so had no reason to call fans pieces of shit. Everyone is a keyboard warrior when it comes to internet comments. If you had a colleague or customer repeatedly telling you your shit, you cant play, you cant do your job etc etc you wouldnt just tell them they are a piece of shit, you'd damn right knock them out.

Idra has reacted to someone being personally insulting to him, and has done so in a way you or i would when it comes to internet forums. with a f**k you response. it was justified, and EG namesake is evil, if they have no bad boy then they are just left with the G, and hardly any of them win, so the G is gone to.. whats left?
I just had a Zergasm
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 10 2013 01:03 GMT
#1486
[QUOTE]On May 10 2013 10:01 vesicular wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 10 2013 09:42 BeyondCtrL wrote:
The only people lamenting this are gonna be Greg's teammates who actually liked him and his zealous fanboys. Any individual intersted in actual e-sport, ie competition and quality, knows that Greg has not contributed to the scene in any positive way since early 2012.

If anyone means to say that drawing in drooling plastic league idiots that watch Survivor and Jersey Shore during stream breaks (never playing the game to actually improve. I know there are a lot of people in lower leagues that actually care, so this is not aimed at anyone that does) contribute to meaningful growth then you are mistaken.

It would be like having a whiny moron BM:er complaining (BISHOP OP, BLACK SIDE UP. CHECKMATE!?! THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT) at a chess tournament riding on and solely being invited due to moron's vote and popularity.

I'm fine with SC2 being a niche thing. It can be bigger than it is now, but I don't want it to be something like Football/Soccer, or some other mainstream sport. Like chess, SC2 is a cerebral game and aiming at a mainstream audience will inevitably dumb down the game. Players like IdrA attract viewers based not on skill or value, but based on the drama around him and his polarizing attitude.
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NerdUpgrades
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada41 Posts
May 10 2013 01:04 GMT
#1487
I am trying to find what he said about the community.... Any help?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1488
Well I guess he had this coming. Showing no will to even take WCS AM premier league seriously (by leaving at 200/200) which is probably the most important tournament for an NA team like EG, this must have been the final straw. Combined with the years of BM and even calling his own teammates a piece of shit. Seems totally justified, and it's certainly not a 'sudden' thing as he has been at it for a long time.

On a human level I feel for Idra a bit, he must have some pretty large IRL issues to deal with to continuously show this kind of behavior and throwing away his own chances. I hope he gets on top of things.
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pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1489
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)
connoisseur
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1490
I'll admit I cried. I remember the days of his casting NASL, EGMCSL, and GSL. Those were the glory days of SC2. Idra is the 2nd highest earning American and has earned more money than any other player from the US. I hope he doesn't retire.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1491
Ah IdrA you always made me feel divided, on one hand you made me laugh with your BM while on the other hand i sort of disliked you. I kind of liked you as you where i hope you stay the same, sports need a "bad guy" to keep things interesting.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada968 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1492
On May 10 2013 09:56 SCST wrote:
I'd speculate that it's more likely EG made an ultimatum to Idra. Something like: "apologize to the community, make a real changes to your personality or else" . . . then Idra blew them off.



I think you're probably right. When Stephano was punished, he released an "official apology" (although it didn't seem like Stephano actually had to write said apology, but it's the thought that counts).

With Idra's mindset, I can easily see him saying "No, fuck you, I'm not apologizing" to his boss, with predictable results.

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Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
May 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#1493
Honestly, it's really really hard to feel sorry for someone who lost their job because they didn't follow the "Don't be an enormous asshole" rule. Then again, the performance may have tied into it, but I'll take it at face value.

Keep rewarding him for being an asshole, he became a bigger asshole? Shocking. It's like rewarding failure to ensure more failure. At least this part of the cycle is broken.

Best of luck to both in the future!

I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
kekuraf
Profile Joined May 2013
Great Britain1 Post
May 10 2013 01:06 GMT
#1494
Hy all. First off all fell sorry for idra. Second duck you Eg. Idra was rude but I dont care . At least he didn't pretend to gg . He said straight what on his mind. This is why I love him. I think this is only eg loss. After demuslim and stephano he was the most watched player. Four months ago he was the most watched. So to be honest this will only affect eg cause they have only 2 well known player. Jd and Thor is good as well but not as good as they was. Don't get me wrong I know many people hate idra and he's not giving any results but at least he's interesting. A fair decision by eg because dirty talk but bad because of advertising eg. So good luck idra , please dont stop streaming. And gz for rustlingrose as your girlfriend you lucky f uck.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
May 10 2013 01:06 GMT
#1495
Just woke up to this news. I never liked Idra, and I never will. His recent actions just amplified my feelings about him. I'm not about to start having mercy on him now that he's jobless, because he brought it upon himself. Sorry but I don't feel any sympathy at all for him, none whatsoever. I feel that Idra should disappear from the scene completely and do something else with his life, because his attitude is not what the Starcraft scene (and the esports scene for that matter) needs. Bye Greg, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 10 2013 01:06 GMT
#1496
On May 10 2013 10:05 pieisamazing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 10:02 Onlinejaguar wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:58 Jinsho wrote:
Removing the smartest & brightest person on their roster to pander to the self-important pricks who call themselves their fans is absolutely disgusting. It is clear they were thinking about getting rid of him since earlier & this is just a pretense, and the fact that it all happens in such a transparent disguise is revolting.



If you think what Idra did was actually acceptable behavior then i don't even know. Without fans there is no EG.

lol is this a post

what did he do that wasnt just idra being idra

ive already read the post he supposedly got removed for, but im not seeing anything special about it. it's obvious they've been planning to get rid of him or they just havent revealed the real reason (or might never)

That's the real reason, he's over stepped his boundaries one too many times
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pieisamazing
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1234 Posts
May 10 2013 01:07 GMT
#1497
On May 10 2013 10:06 Kommander wrote:
Just woke up to this news. I never liked Idra, and I never will. His recent actions just amplified my feelings about him. I'm not about to start having mercy on him now that he's jobless, because he brought it upon himself. Sorry but I don't feel any sympathy at all for him, none whatsoever. I feel that Idra should disappear from the scene completely and do something else with his life, because his attitude is not what the Starcraft scene (and the esports scene for that matter) needs. Bye Greg, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

im 100% sure idra cares
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Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
May 10 2013 01:07 GMT
#1498
just got home from work.. WHAT THE FUCK DID I MISS??????
Fiziks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 01:09:47
May 10 2013 01:08 GMT
#1499
On May 10 2013 09:44 Shoxy wrote:
If you think a person deserves to lose his team, and basically his livelihood, simply because of things he said, and his "manners" then freedom of speech is truly dead.

LOLOLOL! Based on this sentence alone, I would venture a guess that you don't actually have a job in the real world, do you? Freedom of speech means that you cannot be criminally imprisoned or persecuted for what you say against the government or any public official.

It has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a company chooses to continue paying you based on what you say (ESPECIALLY what you say to it's customers). In fact, most of what comes out of IdrA's mouth would be considered willful misconduct and would get him immediately fired from any real organization in the real world. If I went on to a public forum and called my company's customer a bunch of fucks, I would be immediately and swiftly terminated. I commend EG for doing the right thing.
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
May 10 2013 01:08 GMT
#1500
Posting in an epic thread

Greg was once the player that I followed the most, watched all of his VODs in 2010 and 2011. He just stopped caring at some point and you could see it in his play.

Farewell Greg. All I can hope is that you enjoy your life more now by completing your tertiary education and pursuing a career you truly love.
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