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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 12 2013 19:39 GMT
#4501
I'd lose it if he got picked up by a Kespa team.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
ValM
Profile Joined May 2010
India408 Posts
May 12 2013 19:41 GMT
#4502
On May 13 2013 04:05 ValM wrote:
Can someone link me to the Idra's JP interview or any other interview he gave recently please?

The Terran Prince is now the king. Maru | MMA | Mvp forever
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
May 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#4503
On May 13 2013 04:41 ValM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:05 ValM wrote:
Can someone link me to the Idra's JP interview or any other interview he gave recently please?



WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 12 2013 19:44 GMT
#4504
On May 13 2013 03:37 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 02:29 EvanC wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:26 Figgy wrote:
On May 13 2013 01:49 Wampaibist wrote:
Atleast idra visits teamliquid to troll the forums... opps i mean not troll


He doesn't troll, he "reads"


Obviously he meant to say, 'stroll'


he meant to say trawl

then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct.

Not even trawl. It's the standard dictionary definition of the word "troll", at least the only one that's applicable to the context.

Sadly, a lot of the nuances of the English language are lost to internet memes.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 12 2013 19:53 GMT
#4505
On May 13 2013 04:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:37 turdburgler wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:29 EvanC wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:26 Figgy wrote:
On May 13 2013 01:49 Wampaibist wrote:
Atleast idra visits teamliquid to troll the forums... opps i mean not troll


He doesn't troll, he "reads"


Obviously he meant to say, 'stroll'


he meant to say trawl

then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct.

Not even trawl. It's the standard dictionary definition of the word "troll", at least the only one that's applicable to the context.

Sadly, a lot of the nuances of the English language are lost to internet memes.

I know you mentioned context, but I was curious nevertheless:


thefreedictionary.com says:
to troll - To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat.

dictionary.reference.com adds:
- to sing or utter in a full, rolling voice.
- to sing in the manner of a round or catch.


Am I now more useful than any other of the comments in this thread?
This is our town, scrub
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:55:37
May 12 2013 19:53 GMT
#4506
On May 13 2013 04:39 Havik_ wrote:
I'd lose it if he got picked up by a Kespa team.

He's quit playing competitively he wants to be more like Incontrol in terms of being a player/caster, meaning he won't be competing in tournaments anymore but obviously he's going to be playing still so that he knows what he's talking about and is up to date with the meta etc.
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illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
May 12 2013 19:55 GMT
#4507
On May 13 2013 04:53 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:37 turdburgler wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:29 EvanC wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:26 Figgy wrote:
On May 13 2013 01:49 Wampaibist wrote:
Atleast idra visits teamliquid to troll the forums... opps i mean not troll


He doesn't troll, he "reads"


Obviously he meant to say, 'stroll'


he meant to say trawl

then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct.

Not even trawl. It's the standard dictionary definition of the word "troll", at least the only one that's applicable to the context.

Sadly, a lot of the nuances of the English language are lost to internet memes.

I know you mentioned context, but I was curious nevertheless:


thefreedictionary.com says:
to troll - To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat.

dictionary.reference.com adds:
- to sing or utter in a full, rolling voice.
- to sing in the manner of a round or catch.


Am I now more useful than any other of the comments in this thread?


I think since we are on the Internet, the appropriate definition for troll should be taken from urbandictionary.com

troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#4508
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote:
Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in.


If you knew your CS history you'd know that KF3 (perhaps the most promising player at the time) got banned from WCG and kicked from his team (MYM) for saying "get cancer and die" in a match.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#4509
On May 13 2013 04:53 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:44 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:37 turdburgler wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:29 EvanC wrote:
On May 13 2013 02:26 Figgy wrote:
On May 13 2013 01:49 Wampaibist wrote:
Atleast idra visits teamliquid to troll the forums... opps i mean not troll


He doesn't troll, he "reads"


Obviously he meant to say, 'stroll'


he meant to say trawl

then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct.

Not even trawl. It's the standard dictionary definition of the word "troll", at least the only one that's applicable to the context.

Sadly, a lot of the nuances of the English language are lost to internet memes.

I know you mentioned context, but I was curious nevertheless:


thefreedictionary.com says:
to troll - To fish for by trailing a baited line from behind a slowly moving boat.

dictionary.reference.com adds:
- to sing or utter in a full, rolling voice.
- to sing in the manner of a round or catch.


Am I now more useful than any other of the comments in this thread?

Man, you even went to thefreedictionary.com

v.intr.
2.
a. To wander about; ramble.
b. Slang To patrol an area in search for someone or something.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:09:52
May 12 2013 20:08 GMT
#4510
On May 13 2013 03:14 Jimz1469 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 02:38 EvanC wrote:
The thing that pisses me off the most (and I don't know if I qualify under what IdrA himself considers a 'real fan'), is that all the focus is on some garbage he posted on this forum.

To me, that doesn't really matter. It's honestly IdrA being IdrA.

What pissed me off, and hurt me, as a fan, was that IdrA left that game against Polt.

We don't get to see IdrA in much these days. I really, really want to see IdrA win. So when he throws games (and sure, maybe he was in a disadvantageous position, but we've seen players come back from much further behind), that's where the infraction is.

Watching IdrA fight back from behind is what makes an exciting game. Win or lose, I want to see good games. It should be IdrA's priority to win, and 2nd to bring us GOOD GAMES. He deliberately skirted both responsibilities (winning and bringing us good games).

You look at Korean pros and they say in interviews, "I want to bring my fans good games". IdrA doesn't care. So it's not that he says he gets paid to treat us like fucks. It's that he DOES treat us like fucks.

That's what bothers me as a fan, not because IdrA said something bad for the 89394932 time.


This! Could care less about what he said and I wonder if it would even have been note worthy if it wasn't around the time of him leaving the games basically giving the biggest f u to the fans whether he believes so or not because it seems like all he cared about was a surefire win, giving his fans a good game was the last thing on his mind. I think he really thought his fans had faded away but ironically that sort of attitude was why most of them did, at least why I did. Him leaving after Puma stepped on creep during an mlg was the last straw for me. Now I hope there is a bright side but I wish he realized why people were so disappointed in him.


That game against Polt is just a symptom of how ill-equipped, mentally, IdrA is to play competitively at this time. He doesn't understand the basic spirit of competition. It doesn't matter if the position is winnable or unwinnable, what matters is the desire to compete.

A fan doesn't pay for ringside seats, just so they can watch a guy throw in the towel after the first round. Even if that person is clearly outmatched, fans are paying to see a fight to the finish, not for someone to quit.

The irony in all this is that IdrA complains that the community doesn't care about results, and only cares about pandering and 'entertainment.'

A more accurate statement is that competition IS entertainment, but there are countless times that IdrA refused to compete and fight, not only for his fans but for himself.

I hopes he competes again one day, but stepping away from the ring is the probably the best decision he could make.


crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 12 2013 20:15 GMT
#4511
On May 13 2013 03:45 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote:
Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in.

Mots people that say "good morning" don't really care for how good a morning you might have. Etiquette is important in the world of adults. Only children and the socially retarded don't understand this. Idra is not a child.


This etiquette is horrible, I would much rather have someone tell me their true feelings that they wish me cancer and die compared to this false shit "good morning", with a fakeass smile.
World of adults is really insane. Children are more sane then grown ups, took me a long time to finally wake up and actually see this. They say things right out, and its ME who goes insane in my mind at take offense instead of actually understanding their question and statements. We are all a bunch of sick fucks, and only admitting how insane we are, can we start to actually work on it. Like alcoholics do, they actually stop denying their problem, and admit they are sick.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 12 2013 20:16 GMT
#4512
On May 13 2013 05:08 Defacer wrote:
The irony in all this is that IdrA complains that the community doesn't care about results, and only cares about pandering and 'entertainment.'

A more accurate statement is that competition IS entertainment, but there are countless times that IdrA refused to compete and fight, not only for his fans but for himself.

That's not accurate at all. If it was, his viewership wouldn't be consistently in the Top 3.

Whether you agree with the sentiment or not, there's is absolutely no denying that competitive players get absolutely crappy viewer numbers compared to the entertainers.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
May 12 2013 20:30 GMT
#4513
On May 12 2013 08:52 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 08:48 Cheerio wrote:
On May 12 2013 07:44 Nachtwind wrote:
i think he´s right about this community

oh shut up. Everywhere and always there have been people who are dumb, but it's just as dumb to judge all of the community by those few.


"Few"? Those "few" DDOS streams 24/7. Those "few" got Orb fired. Those "few" got Destiny fired. Those "few" got Stephano suspended. Those "few" got IdrA fired. Those "few" are ruining careers. Those few are somehow ruining this community and ruining esports and you expect us to just ignore that?

you missed my point completely. By the few I meant completely different people.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:32:38
May 12 2013 20:30 GMT
#4514
On May 13 2013 05:15 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:45 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote:
Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in.

Mots people that say "good morning" don't really care for how good a morning you might have. Etiquette is important in the world of adults. Only children and the socially retarded don't understand this. Idra is not a child.


This etiquette is horrible, I would much rather have someone tell me their true feelings that they wish me cancer and die compared to this false shit "good morning", with a fakeass smile.
World of adults is really insane. Children are more sane then grown ups, took me a long time to finally wake up and actually see this. They say things right out, and its ME who goes insane in my mind at take offense instead of actually understanding their question and statements. We are all a bunch of sick fucks, and only admitting how insane we are, can we start to actually work on it. Like alcoholics do, they actually stop denying their problem, and admit they are sick.

We live in a world sir where euphemistic language is the norm and what you mean to say is so clouded in attempts not to offend anyone else it gets left out of pure meaning.

This being said, IdrA's comments regarding cancer weren't anything regarding euphemisms and was simply a poor thing to say; his comment regarding the community as being fucks was simply taken out of context... Why would anyone badmouth their fanbase and what makes the money... I think it's obvious who he was directing that towards and you can see them pop up over this thread.

I do agree and if you're interested in one of the best comedians to ever live who has a great bit on euphemistic language, George Carlin's "brain droppings" is what you want .

On May 13 2013 05:30 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 08:52 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:
On May 12 2013 08:48 Cheerio wrote:
On May 12 2013 07:44 Nachtwind wrote:
i think he´s right about this community

oh shut up. Everywhere and always there have been people who are dumb, but it's just as dumb to judge all of the community by those few.


"Few"? Those "few" DDOS streams 24/7. Those "few" got Orb fired. Those "few" got Destiny fired. Those "few" got Stephano suspended. Those "few" got IdrA fired. Those "few" are ruining careers. Those few are somehow ruining this community and ruining esports and you expect us to just ignore that?

you missed my point completely. By the few I meant completely different people.

Like who? The people who message sponsors are ridiculous... What better way to crush an industry then to remove the financial backing of it and those are the people he is referring to, I'm curious about your "few" however since its about as general as the term "fucks" regarding the segmented part of the community.
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:40:52
May 12 2013 20:38 GMT
#4515
On May 13 2013 05:15 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 03:45 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote:
Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in.

Mots people that say "good morning" don't really care for how good a morning you might have. Etiquette is important in the world of adults. Only children and the socially retarded don't understand this. Idra is not a child.


This etiquette is horrible, I would much rather have someone tell me their true feelings that they wish me cancer and die compared to this false shit "good morning", with a fakeass smile.
World of adults is really insane. Children are more sane then grown ups, took me a long time to finally wake up and actually see this. They say things right out, and its ME who goes insane in my mind at take offense instead of actually understanding their question and statements. We are all a bunch of sick fucks, and only admitting how insane we are, can we start to actually work on it. Like alcoholics do, they actually stop denying their problem, and admit they are sick.

Ah lol, Norwegians! :D

It's a bit amusing, but we Norwegians are really quite impolite by other cultures standards, but at the same time, we are really sincere. I am guessing it comes from having 5 million Norwegians in the same area that houses over 120 million Japanese. I think the more crowded you get, the stricter the social rules become.

I do feel that Idra could have been Norwegian, his manner is very close to my girlfriends. I never know when she really thinks I am as stupid as fuck, and when she's just fucking with me.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 12 2013 20:44 GMT
#4516
On May 13 2013 05:38 blackbrrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:15 crappen wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:45 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote:
Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in.

Mots people that say "good morning" don't really care for how good a morning you might have. Etiquette is important in the world of adults. Only children and the socially retarded don't understand this. Idra is not a child.


This etiquette is horrible, I would much rather have someone tell me their true feelings that they wish me cancer and die compared to this false shit "good morning", with a fakeass smile.
World of adults is really insane. Children are more sane then grown ups, took me a long time to finally wake up and actually see this. They say things right out, and its ME who goes insane in my mind at take offense instead of actually understanding their question and statements. We are all a bunch of sick fucks, and only admitting how insane we are, can we start to actually work on it. Like alcoholics do, they actually stop denying their problem, and admit they are sick.

Ah lol, Norwegians! :D

It's a bit amusing, but we Norwegians are really quite impolite by other cultures standards, but at the same time, we are really sincere. I am guessing it comes from having 5 million Norwegians in the same area that houses over 120 million Japanese. I think the more crowded you get, the stricter the social rules become.

I do feel that Idra could have been Norwegian, his manner is very close to my girlfriends. I never know when she really thinks I am as stupid as fuck, and when she's just fucking with me.

One would think you'd notice when she is fucking with you
Get off my lawn, young punks
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 12 2013 20:47 GMT
#4517
On May 13 2013 05:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:08 Defacer wrote:
The irony in all this is that IdrA complains that the community doesn't care about results, and only cares about pandering and 'entertainment.'

A more accurate statement is that competition IS entertainment, but there are countless times that IdrA refused to compete and fight, not only for his fans but for himself.

That's not accurate at all. If it was, his viewership wouldn't be consistently in the Top 3.

Whether you agree with the sentiment or not, there's is absolutely no denying that competitive players get absolutely crappy viewer numbers compared to the entertainers.


I guess what I'm getting at is that for idra to criticize the community for valuing pandering over competition, when he himself didn't treat competition seriously or understand how competition can be entertaining, made him part of the problem.

Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
May 12 2013 20:47 GMT
#4518
If people here think simple polite greetings like "Good Morning" is being fake, then you really need to take a look at yourself. If you really think people are being fake when they're just being normal human beings, it's because you're projecting your own ideas onto them. Using phrases like "the world of adults" does not make your ideas any more valid, it just makes you immature. Yes, you change the way you act depending on who you're around, that's just how social hierarchies work. That doesn't mean you're being fake though.

As far as actual insults go:
You're a moron/idiot/whatever = Fine
Get raped/I hope you get cancer = Not fine

Cancer/rape etc effect lots of people and their families, it causes massive amounts of harm to so many people wishing it on someone else is disgusting.People who do use those sorts of insults seriously need to think about the harm those things do before lashing out. "I don't mean it though" then don't say that.

You're an idiot is fine because being an idiot isn't particularly harmful and it's of my opinion that it doesn't ruin as many lives as cancer and whatever else.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
May 12 2013 20:53 GMT
#4519
On May 13 2013 05:47 Hey Sean. wrote:
If people here think simple polite greetings like "Good Morning" is being fake, then you really need to take a look at yourself. If you really think people are being fake when they're just being normal human beings, it's because you're projecting your own ideas onto them. Using phrases like "the world of adults" does not make your ideas any more valid, it just makes you immature. Yes, you change the way you act depending on who you're around, that's just how social hierarchies work. That doesn't mean you're being fake though.

As far as actual insults go:
You're a moron/idiot/whatever = Fine
Get raped/I hope you get cancer = Not fine

Cancer/rape etc effect lots of people and their families, it causes massive amounts of harm to so many people wishing it on someone else is disgusting.People who do use those sorts of insults seriously need to think about the harm those things do before lashing out. "I don't mean it though" then don't say that.

You're an idiot is fine because being an idiot isn't particularly harmful and it's of my opinion that it doesn't ruin as many lives as cancer and whatever else.


You're an idiot.

+ Show Spoiler +
you said it was fine
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
May 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#4520
On May 13 2013 05:53 DueSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:47 Hey Sean. wrote:
If people here think simple polite greetings like "Good Morning" is being fake, then you really need to take a look at yourself. If you really think people are being fake when they're just being normal human beings, it's because you're projecting your own ideas onto them. Using phrases like "the world of adults" does not make your ideas any more valid, it just makes you immature. Yes, you change the way you act depending on who you're around, that's just how social hierarchies work. That doesn't mean you're being fake though.

As far as actual insults go:
You're a moron/idiot/whatever = Fine
Get raped/I hope you get cancer = Not fine

Cancer/rape etc effect lots of people and their families, it causes massive amounts of harm to so many people wishing it on someone else is disgusting.People who do use those sorts of insults seriously need to think about the harm those things do before lashing out. "I don't mean it though" then don't say that.

You're an idiot is fine because being an idiot isn't particularly harmful and it's of my opinion that it doesn't ruin as many lives as cancer and whatever else.


You're an idiot.

+ Show Spoiler +
you said it was fine


That was childish. You're no Idra, don't kid yourself.
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