EPTEvil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 225
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archonOOid
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Jimz1469
116 Posts
On May 13 2013 02:38 EvanC wrote: The thing that pisses me off the most (and I don't know if I qualify under what IdrA himself considers a 'real fan'), is that all the focus is on some garbage he posted on this forum. To me, that doesn't really matter. It's honestly IdrA being IdrA. What pissed me off, and hurt me, as a fan, was that IdrA left that game against Polt. We don't get to see IdrA in much these days. I really, really want to see IdrA win. So when he throws games (and sure, maybe he was in a disadvantageous position, but we've seen players come back from much further behind), that's where the infraction is. Watching IdrA fight back from behind is what makes an exciting game. Win or lose, I want to see good games. It should be IdrA's priority to win, and 2nd to bring us GOOD GAMES. He deliberately skirted both responsibilities (winning and bringing us good games). You look at Korean pros and they say in interviews, "I want to bring my fans good games". IdrA doesn't care. So it's not that he says he gets paid to treat us like fucks. It's that he DOES treat us like fucks. That's what bothers me as a fan, not because IdrA said something bad for the 89394932 time. This! Could care less about what he said and I wonder if it would even have been note worthy if it wasn't around the time of him leaving the games basically giving the biggest f u to the fans whether he believes so or not because it seems like all he cared about was a surefire win, giving his fans a good game was the last thing on his mind. I think he really thought his fans had faded away but ironically that sort of attitude was why most of them did, at least why I did. Him leaving after Puma stepped on creep during an mlg was the last straw for me. Now I hope there is a bright side but I wish he realized why people were so disappointed in him. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote: Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in. If Idra played LoL, riot would have banned him for BM like they have other pros. Idra is lucky blizzard didn't follow riot's policies there. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote: Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in. Think this is more to do with the SC2 community realizing it's on the cusp of something larger than CS could ever hope for. It's becoming a big industry - the viewership is growing and SC2 has the potential to be a large, long-term industry. Not really possible to go mainstream when important personalities aren't acting like adults. | ||
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
On May 11 2013 09:44 AmorphousPhoenix wrote: Well, EG just lost this fan, that's all I can say. And gained one here  | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:20 SCST wrote: Think this is more to do with the SC2 community realizing it's on the cusp of something larger than CS could ever hope for. It's becoming a big industry - the viewership is growing and SC2 has the potential to be a large, long-term industry. Not really possible to go mainstream when important personalities aren't acting like adults. If you think players like IdrA don't exist in 'something larger' (sports are what you're referring to I'd assume) in the mainstream industries then you're either naive, stupid or you don't watch many of these industries interact outside of once in awhile... Personalities make industries, that being said I also think StarCraft has been on this 'cusp' for a really long time and has yet to really pour over... Perhaps my pessimistic side holds me back from ever agreeing it will reach this large industry, especially if (this is unlikely) the majority of the posting community (those who reddit and TL) are the ones representing this community. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
he meant to say trawl then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct. | ||
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Zeritas
Germany24 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:34 Hitch-22 wrote: If you think players like IdrA don't exist in 'something larger' (sports are what you're referring to I'd assume) in the mainstream industries then you're either naive, stupid or you don't watch many of these industries interact outside of once in awhile... Personalities make industries, that being said I also think StarCraft has been on this 'cusp' for a really long time and has yet to really pour over... Perhaps my pessimistic side holds me back from ever agreeing it will reach this large industry, especially if (this is unlikely) the majority of the posting community (those who reddit and TL) are the ones representing this community. I remember Effenberg showing the german fans the fuckfinger because the fans didnt like his play at a game and hoot him. Effenberg was removed from the german football team. And Effenberg was a top player back then, unlike Idra. And this "fuck off fans", can be nicely compared what idra wrote here on TL. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:37 turdburgler wrote: he meant to say trawl then after saying it wrong he rephrased it because apparently people wouldnt be able to understand the word. seems hes been proven correct. Let's all get on the word bandwagon : P What pro wouldnt come on TL to look at most of our conversations and laugh, usually they're beyond laudable. Trolling the forums is likely the best pro past time | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:34 Hitch-22 wrote: If you think players like IdrA don't exist in 'something larger' (sports are what you're referring to I'd assume) in the mainstream industries then you're either naive, stupid or you don't watch many of these industries interact outside of once in awhile... Personalities make industries, that being said I also think StarCraft has been on this 'cusp' for a really long time and has yet to really pour over... Perhaps my pessimistic side holds me back from ever agreeing it will reach this large industry, especially if (this is unlikely) the majority of the posting community (those who reddit and TL) are the ones representing this community. This has been discussed before in the thread. As you've even stated in your post, it's pretty clear that the SC2 scene is currently not an established mainstream industry. That being said, mainstream audiences are far less forgiving towards emerging, obscure sports than established industries like Football or Baseball. As many of the architects of SC2's growth and either directly stated or implied, we're going to have to at least "appear" to be a professional, put-together sport that takes itself seriously. If we can't do that, there's no hope of it ever pouring over. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:11 JDI1 wrote: Having been in the CS 1.6 scene and knowing a bit about the LoL scene, gotta say SC nerds are quite a bit more insecure and sensitive to internet insults. We live in a world where drama makes the most money, not being nice. Most people who say GLHF and GG don't mean it anyway - they say it cause it's the norm they're tring to fit in. Mots people that say "good morning" don't really care for how good a morning you might have. Etiquette is important in the world of adults. Only children and the socially retarded don't understand this. Idra is not a child. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:51 teddyoojo wrote: id like to throw in my favourite idra moment: That's why I was dissappointed by Cruncher @ On May 10 2013 07:36 CrunCher wrote: lol in this thread. Only a smily needed. | ||
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BlacKcuD
Germany107 Posts
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ValM
India408 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1600 Posts
On May 13 2013 04:00 BlacKcuD wrote: So with Idra gone, who will be the next punching bag of the sc2 community? Can't think of anyone right now. Idra the the caster. 1st Thread Idra Casting Feedback Thread 1. Who is this moron? 2. What an Idiot he isn't even a pro anymore 3. Did you see what he did on his stream last night? 4. Wasn't he on a good team once?? Haters gonna hate. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
Was Idra right in saying what he honestly thought? No and yes. Should people be up in arms over it as if he threatened their life? Absolutely not. If "fans" want this sport to grow, it would behoove them to try and appear to be mature enough to handle it. Calling sponsors or complaining to anyone in the industry that will listen because you read a rude comment on a forum isn't going to help anyone. Fact is a lot of these fans are emotionally immature and don't know how to deal with what common situations. Not sure why any company would want to deal with this community. Not sure why any player would want to deal with this community. They should just all avoid these websites like the plague, shut off chat windows in their streams, stop producing extra content, and just play games. That way they don't have to worry about losing their jobs because some kid either got his feelings hurt or just decides to cause problems out of spite. But then again, I would guess in that scenario the "fans" in this community would complain because they are being ignored. | ||
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Kiran
Germany52 Posts
IdrA was always good for a surprise.... and he was for sure the best zerg on delta quadrant!  i wish him all the best! i also think, that this interview must have been really hard for him... he tries to make things work now, but i don´t belive, that idra had a plan b in store over a longer period of time... well.... and there´s always the possibility to come back, idra... if you´ve got enough from casting and start beating up some nerds in MLG or GSL, i´m the first to cheer for you and many will follow! | ||
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LOveRH
United States88 Posts
On May 13 2013 03:44 SCST wrote: This has been discussed before in the thread. As you've even stated in your post, it's pretty clear that the SC2 scene is currently not an established mainstream industry. That being said, mainstream audiences are far less forgiving towards emerging, obscure sports than established industries like Football or Baseball. As many of the architects of SC2's growth and either directly stated or implied, we're going to have to at least "appear" to be a professional, put-together sport that takes itself seriously. If we can't do that, there's no hope of it ever pouring over. There are a lot of pro player (baseball/basketball/football) when they do something dumb they only get a slap on the wrist. I don't understand why this is such a big deal that IdrA went and said something that got blown out of proportion. It really really isn't a big deal. People are way to sensitive and MADE it a big deal. I remember about a month ago there was the pro baseball player who jumped a pitcher in a league game (ON TV) because he throw a bad ball (it was all over the news). He jumped this guy, broke his arm in a huge fight and now pitcher how can't do his job. What did the guy who jumped the pitcher get? A freakin' slap on the wrist and *maybe* a suspension. LOLOOLOLOL? He just halted a players career for doing something that was beyond unprofessional and still gets nothing. While IdrA says, one statement that was taken out of context, which gets blown out of proportion and they kick him off his team. Yeah... ok, sounds fair right? I agree... players should be treating SC like a professional job but this is really nothing compared to what happens in 'real sports' =/. I say REAL sports need to manner up like Starcraft players. Just sayin'. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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