EPTEvil Geniuses Releases Greg "IdrA" Fields - Page 197
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BigAsia
Canada451 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On May 11 2013 22:24 Reborn8u wrote: I think a lot of people forget something in all of this, and that's the amount of people that act much worse than greg. Earlier that very day I remember Demuslim saying on his stream "Idra's stream is nuts, the stream chat is just a massive troll fest, I've never seen anything like it" While Idra does have a bad temper, and does draw a lot of negative attention, it also needs to be taken into consideration that he has literally been harassed by 100's of people daily for years now. The situation certainly feeds off itself and it is a vicious cycle, but I don't give a fuck who you are, that shit will wear you down. How many times a day do you think he reads some horrible things someone says about him and does not respond? So he has moments of weakness, so he is human, and sometimes loses his patience and speaks in anger. SO WHAT? I respect Idra for being honest, for being who he is, and putting so much of his time and his life out there for all of us to see. Are we not entertained? Is esports better or worse without a villain? I'd bet a lot of the people talking shit about greg in this thread would snap in mere days if they received 1/2 the level of harassment Greg does. He is a bigger person than most of you, and not one damn person here hasn't got pissed off and said something they shouldn't have, many times. Edit, I don't take any issue with EG, they as an organization have the right to decide who is on their team, they have a right to decide that a player is not presenting the image they want to portray. It's volume and long term barrage of personal attacks people make against Idra that bugs me. i 100% agree | ||
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EvanC
Canada130 Posts
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Except you dont see the other, oh i dont know, millions of celebrities across the world snapping like a twig every day. Those that do are often out of a job in seconds or become laughing stocks. Idra is not the only pro-gamer, or well known identity to get served shit every day, he's far from it. They all do. By your logic every well known personality who has been given shit is allowed to verbally rape people on a daily basis. Note: Idra is a celebrity in the SC2 world, its a fair comparison | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jk of course | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
Wish you the best in the future Greg, I've loved your contributions the SC2 scene and enjoyed your play while it lasted. The games you played against Boxer and Bomber at MLG a couple of years ago are still some of my all time favorite series. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
Best of luck to him. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:30 fearus wrote: If balotelli can find a club, then idra can find a team. Best of luck to him. Balotelli has skill. Idra these days? Not any relevant skill. Doesn't matter if you can win on the ladder if you can't win real games. | ||
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Hoender
South Africa381 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:23 EvanC wrote: Also, could you guys imagine what would happen if IdrA now teamless took the opportunity to qualify for TLS... haha this would be so awesome. Idra come back to BW!!  | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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dr.fahrenheit
Austria101 Posts
As for the people (or "the community") who are hurt (and in some case outraged) by his behaviour, his insults etc... relax... it was (or maybe still is) all part of the show... how many of you people watched Borat and found the reactions of the Kazakhs ridiculous... Maybe IdrA was your Sacha Baron Cohan and you were the Kazakhs. It has been and is still done so many times... look at Andy Kaufman in the past or look at Family Guy now... But of course it is different here, this community is far too smart that someone could take advantage in such a way... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:31 Lonyo wrote: Balotelli has skill. Idra these days? Not any relevant skill. Doesn't matter if you can win on the ladder if you can't win real games. A big factor of that I feel is that everyone and their mom knows how he plays(greedy until loses, then cheese) | ||
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On May 11 2013 22:58 Dekoth wrote: He is right, and you can verify this by looking at the television shows that are the most popular. This isn't something exclusive to the SC2 community by any stretch. People like dirt and drama more than anything. Dirt and drama are two different things. Good games create drama by themselves. An underdog breaking through creates drama, a falling hero, someone changing sides, all sorts of unexpected turns of events create drama. Dirt draws viewers, but it isn't the only thing that does. Look at the players that have the most popular fanclub threads. Dirt doesn't seem to play a big role there. Not saying you're totally wrong, but it isn't that simple. When IdrA says people don't value a good player, one has to keep in mind that IdrA has his very own and specific idea of what makes a good player. In his mind (at least when he's raging and commenting) he loses a lot because the other player is bad. This isn't quite the only way to see things. Also, that people are more interested in a player with a face and personality than in some high-APM brillant strategic robot has nothing to do with their intelligence or character or lack thereof. To the viewers, sports is entertainment, and entertainment value is optimal when personality and skill to some degree coincide. stava88 is not right because a thread about IdrA wouldn't draw this amount of attention if it weren't for his accomplishments in Broodwar and the early days of SC2. Maybe the most recent successes don't have much to do with the value of a player, and that's a good thing because otherwise their teams and fans would drop them as soon as their performance declines for a while. | ||
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Zanzabarr
Canada217 Posts
Despite all of this, EG was fine with keeping him until the sponsors forced their hand. It was confirmed on iNcontroL's stream that idrA has been fined in the past for his bad behavior, and like a month before his firing was fined heavily by the team, and talked to over dinner about his actions on his stream. He apparently told Capoch in game on his stream: "i genuinely hope something bad happens to you like you get cancer or something" Needless to say, the sponsors of EG found out and told Alex Garfield that this behavior was unacceptable. Alex promised the sponsors that this wouldn't happen again, and talked to Greg about this. Low and behold, greg says something even worse like a month later about getting paid to treat everyone like shit, and the sponsors basically indicated that it either Greg goes or they go. Bye bye Idra. Best decision they have ever made. Now Demuslim, Huk, Suppy etc don't have to pretend like they tolerate him anymore. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
On May 11 2013 22:46 Excludos wrote: This thread proves more than anything that Idra might be right about the community. Of course he's right about the community. We really are a bunch of fucks, or at least we act like it. I know it can funny in twitchchats, and it's reached an absurd meta level (i mean the excessive trolling and asking dumb questions and in general acting dumb). We also don't understand the business dimensions of the game at all. Other than knowing there's not a lot of money, most of us have a passing knowledge at best of the finances behind the scene. IdrA was totally right about the "true" value of a player. | ||
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Paincakez
81 Posts
On May 11 2013 19:59 NoobSkills wrote: I always liked his cocky attitude. It amused me, but the application of that attitude towards games especially games he could have won and instead just quits made me upset. Not like sad, but I just wanted more out of someone who was so cocky. Someone with that attitude should have looked at a losing situation and said fuck it I'm better than you let's keep playing instead of instantly giving up. Agree, but I guess the majority want everything to be politically correct. I can understand though why EG made this move, but on the other hand, perhaps a warning following an apology would have sufficed. Remember when TL was full of livestream birds spam, lots of gifs and funny photoshops? I miss that tbh, less politically correct (or ''professional'') and more fun for shits and gigglez. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 11 2013 18:15 falcuma wrote: Finally! This guy is the biggest a$$hole in E-sport History. I'm so glad he is finally out and really hope he will not return on any condition. Beeing an old "progamer" on an all-different sort of game (Quake), I find that throwing 3000/3000 200/200 games at this level is like stating that "I dont have the level required to play at this stage, i'm just ragequiting". I hope he ends up washing the floor at McDonald's, that's all he deserves from the little I've heard him say about people and opponents on his stream. I hope you fail good in the future Idra. User was warned for this post I hate him being such an asshole so watch me partake in also being an asshole! | ||
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ne0lith
537 Posts
On May 11 2013 22:24 Reborn8u wrote: I think a lot of people forget something in all of this, and that's the amount of people that act much worse than greg. Earlier that very day I remember Demuslim saying on his stream "Idra's stream is nuts, the stream chat is just a massive troll fest, I've never seen anything like it" While Idra does have a bad temper, and does draw a lot of negative attention, it also needs to be taken into consideration that he has literally been harassed by 100's of people daily for years now. The situation certainly feeds off itself and it is a vicious cycle, but I don't give a fuck who you are, that shit will wear you down. How many times a day do you think he reads some horrible things someone says about him and does not respond? So he has moments of weakness, so he is human, and sometimes loses his patience and speaks in anger. SO WHAT? I respect Idra for being honest, for being who he is, and putting so much of his time and his life out there for all of us to see. Are we not entertained? Is esports better or worse without a villain? I'd bet a lot of the people talking shit about greg in this thread would snap in mere days if they received 1/2 the level of harassment Greg does. He is a bigger person than most of you, and not one damn person here hasn't got pissed off and said something they shouldn't have, many times. Edit, I don't take any issue with EG, they as an organization have the right to decide who is on their team, they have a right to decide that a player is not presenting the image they want to portray. It's volume and long term barrage of personal attacks people make against Idra that bugs me. Oh, please. Why is he the victim here and why isn't harassment such a big deal for other players? Isn't it because Idra brought it upon himself? We're talking about the guy who made a career out of being a despicable person towards others for the longest time and now we're blaming just another of his many displays of disrespect on the harassment coming from the community towards the innocent person that he is? If he's shitting on others shouldn't he be able to take it as well? Poor him, having to face the consequences of his actions. Fortunately, he's already earned way more money than people who are way better than him at his job and respectable individuals, on top of that. That should at least make his suffering a little easier. | ||
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
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