EPTLittle BM here or there never hurt anyone, except the butthurt kiddies.
I hope he continues to entertain with his silly comments and becomes an even better player.
Best of luck Grack.
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Jezal
Bulgaria3 Posts
Little BM here or there never hurt anyone, except the butthurt kiddies. I hope he continues to entertain with his silly comments and becomes an even better player. Best of luck Grack. User was warned for this post | ||
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Charon1979
Austria317 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:26 Capped wrote: Except you dont see the other, oh i dont know, millions of celebrities across the world snapping like a twig every day. Those that do are often out of a job in seconds or become laughing stocks. In which world? We got celebrities with drug excesses, we got celebrities who are famous for a short fuse and hard punches, we got celebrities with alcohol excesses, we got celebrities who are openly racist, we have celebritys with a really bad temper,... Its rare that these kind of ppl lose their "jobs" based on their behaviour. Also they got better "filters". Security keeps away the "scum", their fanpost gets sorted and so on. And we talk about ppl here who actually violate laws on a regular basis. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:00 Charon1979 wrote: In which world? We got celebrities with drug excesses, we got celebrities who are famous for a short fuse and hard punches, we got celebrities with alcohol excesses, we got celebrities who are openly racist, we have celebritys with a really bad temper,... Its rare that these kind of ppl lose their "jobs" based on their behaviour. Also they got better "filters". Security keeps away the "scum", their fanpost gets sorted and so on. And we talk about ppl here who actually violate laws on a regular basis. Lindsey Lohan? Had a good start, then went downhill in pretty much every way, and while she gets jobs here and there, they are hardly major films and most of the news around them is about her being stupid on set, doing drugs, or going back to prison. | ||
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Hubble
Germany248 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:02 revel8 wrote: Greg should get a personal sponsorship. With IBM! I think I see what you did there. | ||
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Chessz
United States644 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:26 Capped wrote: Except you dont see the other, oh i dont know, millions of celebrities across the world snapping like a twig every day. Those that do are often out of a job in seconds or become laughing stocks. Idra is not the only pro-gamer, or well known identity to get served shit every day, he's far from it. They all do. By your logic every well known personality who has been given shit is allowed to verbally rape people on a daily basis. Note: Idra is a celebrity in the SC2 world, its a fair comparison Uh, except you do see celebrities snap. Sorry to use American examples but, Christian Bale, Chevy Chase, Charlie Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Mel gibson, etc.. Chris Brown physically beat his woman and is still popular. And mostly these examples are over some petty things. Sure they sometimes end up "out of a job" but really what takes a hit is just the brand/recognition their name carries. so I think this is kind of off-base. Maybe not "every day" they snap, but certainly they do. How many times has a celebrity reacted poorly to the papparrazi or destroyed their cameras or something? Imagine the twitch chat being like the worst kind of papparrazzi, extremely scrutinizing and watching your every move. And in addition to that, we're an openly extremely rude group, shouting insults and the dumbest kind of interactions constantly | ||
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ColtraneL
France248 Posts
On May 11 2013 23:23 yOngKIN wrote: Idra knew the shit he was allowed to do. I am pretty sure EG knows it as well and benefits from it. Only problem is Idra played too hard and lost control. He is right in saying that his popularity is more important than success, and that he feeds of the fans gullibility and fanboyism, but it was wrong to call out the community on it. It is true that for him lately, his popularity has been the only reason why he was still present and visible in the SC2 scene. But it is false to assume that this proves popularity is more important than success. I would even say that the both goes together. Idra would be relatively unknown if he would have always been at the level he is now. The reason he has so much popularity in the scene is a direct consequence of his achievements back in BW and his presence at the top of the foreign SC2 scene from the beginning of the game to mid/late 2011 more or less. People reward success as well, just take the Mvp case into account. Ok the player had to win 3 GSL before being really worshiped overseas but that is because he didn't have any exposure in the foreign scene before. But once he started winning a lot in foreign countries and managed to maintain his success overall, he became the absolute most popular player during some time. Now he is not doing the best, he is far from the level that made him famous but he still has a ton of fans because of his past success. The job is already done for him, he could just surf on his popularity to keep his presence in the game. Stephano is another good example of this, he has the controversy and the personnality to have as many fans as Idra, but it's his success that made him famous. If he doesn't start winning again, he still has a huge fanbase to relie on. | ||
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bertolo
United States133 Posts
I don't mind that Idra was BM on occasion, that was what everyone knows him for basically and why many come to watch him. Calling his audience a bunch of fucks is a little too far I would say and honestly he hasn't been putting up any results nor a good attitude (if ever) the last couple months I've watched his stream. If EG was giving him a decent amount of money I would imagine it would be much better spent on an upcoming player or someone who can show more improvement. If everyone wants to watch Idra continue to BM and lose games in the same way and show minimal improvement in play over a long span of time why can't he continue to stream and keep getting his thousands of constant viewers. More power to him I say keep going and keep playing if it's his passion. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
Is it possible EG wanted to get rid of idra and used this pretext to cut him loose? It is true that he's been underperforming for a long time and the haters have been dragging down both his and EGs brand. The punishment seems extreme for the crime and not keeping incontrol in the loop that idra was in dangerous territory seems suspicious. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:19 coverpunch wrote: With the way this thread has gone, I want to ask the obvious question: Is it possible EG wanted to get rid of idra and used this pretext to cut him loose? It is true that he's been underperforming for a long time and the haters have been dragging down both his and EGs brand. The punishment seems extreme for the crime and not keeping incontrol in the loop that idra was in dangerous territory seems suspicious. EG probably not. Their sponsors probably different story. | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
i went on youtube and found incontrol on sotg and i almost cried again he looked like he was really upset but he handled it really well ;; | ||
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:19 coverpunch wrote: With the way this thread has gone, I want to ask the obvious question: Is it possible EG wanted to get rid of idra and used this pretext to cut him loose? It is true that he's been underperforming for a long time and the haters have been dragging down both his and EGs brand. The punishment seems extreme for the crime and not keeping incontrol in the loop that idra was in dangerous territory seems suspicious. Incontrol made pretty clear that they have been "working" hard with IdrA for a long time. That kinda implies that things couldn't continue indefinitely the way they were if Idra didn't change. And you don't walk around whispering to coworkers "hey, we might fire x in the next couple of weeks" behind x's back. What good would that do? There is nothing suspicious. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
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hastur420
Belize178 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:05 Chessz wrote: Uh, except you do see celebrities snap. Sorry to use American examples but, Christian Bale, Chevy Chase, Charlie Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Mel gibson, etc.. Chris Brown physically beat his woman and is still popular. And mostly these examples are over some petty things. Sure they sometimes end up "out of a job" but really what takes a hit is just the brand/recognition their name carries. so I think this is kind of off-base. Maybe not "every day" they snap, but certainly they do. How many times has a celebrity reacted poorly to the papparrazi or destroyed their cameras or something? Imagine the twitch chat being like the worst kind of papparrazzi, extremely scrutinizing and watching your every move. And in addition to that, we're an openly extremely rude group, shouting insults and the dumbest kind of interactions constantly 2 reasons this is a terrible comparison to celebrities. for one, a streamer has the means to ignore everyone who tries to harass him online. it's even more easy to ignore chat and skype is possible too. it's nothing like real life harassment. it's annoying but NOTHING like that other reason, those celebrities actually produce quality content, some of them even produce unbelievable art pieces. how the fuck does that compare to grack fields? and btw he could still earn thousands of dollars just off ad venue, because fanboys will give him the stream numbers. i remember Catz used to make like 5k per month off twitch tw and his numbers are nowhere near grack's. you people should stop pretending a treagedy happened. players get fired for less, and much faster too, not after 3 years, and Grack still has the ways to earn loads of money with a joke job. | ||
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BillGates
471 Posts
Ultimately his insults and non existing results lead to him being fired. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
I missed this when it happened, but have to admit how surprised I am. It felt like IdrA would be a part of EG forever. Interesting to see what happens next. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On May 12 2013 00:28 FrogOfWar wrote: Incontrol made pretty clear that they have been "working" hard with IdrA for a long time. That kinda implies that things couldn't continue indefinitely the way they were if Idra didn't change. And you don't walk around whispering to coworkers "hey, we might fire x in the next couple of weeks" behind x's back. What good would that do? There is nothing suspicious. No, my point is that it is strange that it was a surprise. Usually when someone gets fired for cause, it is eminently clear that they deserve it because the employer exhausted all options and gave the employee more than enough fair chances to shape up. I'm just asking the question because it is clear idra has blown through a lot of chances. But the fact that incontrol didn't say "idra is down to his last chances, management is getting tired of his bad publicity" and was surprised by the firing is weird. There was no doubt he would be punished. But fired? | ||
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furerkip
United States439 Posts
I mean, you can do that. He doesn't talk to his stream much anyways, he mostly complains about all the players he plays, calling this shit and things like that. I don't recall him actually talking to his chat ever; did he? I mean, after a while where it's obvious none of them liked him, I'm betting he stopped caring about what they said. He's pretty much responsible for his actions anyways... | ||
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levelping
Singapore759 Posts
Still it was the only thing that could be done. And to be fair I think this community played a role in this. Some of us indulged in his behaviour because it was entertaining. I think we had all been less indulgent... | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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