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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On May 11 2013 14:27 0x5f3759df wrote: fuck idra's butt with a hot metal rod. that is all. User was temp banned for this post. if this doesn't warrant a jackie chan wtf i don't know what does + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Diaresta
United States597 Posts
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote: For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly. Video Link Thanks for the clarification. I had the general gist of the situation with all the information getting thrown around, but it's good to hear what Geoff had to say about the things that went on behind the scenes. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On May 11 2013 15:06 ZenithM wrote: This almost eclipses MaximusBlack's own release from Quantic. Wait who's that? ^_~ The thread has slowed down quite a bit, so discussions are much easier to have now. Sort of nice. Maybe everyone is just over with the news already!!!! | ||
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PsyChoRo
Romania85 Posts
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Daft Commander
United States79 Posts
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FuzZyLogic
United States141 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
On May 11 2013 15:35 PsyChoRo wrote: Just like HuK moved to EG, wouldn't it be as crazy, now, for Idra to move to TL ? liquid'idra sounds cool | ||
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Facultyadjutant
Sweden1876 Posts
Idra joins Liquid He becomes the epitome of manner Meets huk in wsc Idra: Just so you know Our friendship Huk: Fuck off Idra: Was just a halluc LOL | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
No thanks. Not until he becomes more mannered towards the community and his teammates. | ||
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YuTz
United States119 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:07 FuzZyLogic wrote: Does no one else think it's strange that EG happened to announce Idra's departure 10 minutes into SOTG (while they were talking about idra)? Incontrol sheds some light on the circumstances of his firing, but they are sure milking all the publicity they can from it.. Had Idra beaten Polt and qualified for WCS, it would´ve been the same amount of attention. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3813 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:24 YuTz wrote: I am really surprised no one has made a meme saying "release the gracken!!". In all seriousness, I hope he makes a strong come back. I think a change of pace would be great for him. Maybe he doesn't agree *shrugs* Has been said 20 times in this thread already | ||
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Yamoth
United States315 Posts
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Morlock
68 Posts
On May 11 2013 14:28 Qwyn wrote: If he's so flawless as you seem to think, then you have to ask yourself WHY IN THE NAME OF HELL players like Suppy, who don't practice nearly as much, are objectively better players than him."Out of the loop and isolated from his peers..." I don't think so. Where exactly are you getting this? He watches the latest tourneys. He knows what is going on. He's a pro player for god's sake - he knows all these things. You have to ask WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK someone with his experience, and who started HotS in the beta, didn't qualify for the Shoutcraft league of top 16 Americans. The answer is that he doesn't even evaluate his own replays, he won't be told anything, he doesn't have practice partners because he flames everyone who beats him, he attributes almost every defeat to his opponents playing badly, and he's constantly behind the meta-game -- sometimes to almost farcical lengths. As an example of the latter, Demuslim pointed out that Idra's creep spread is nowhere near as effective as Stephano's and is literally minutes behind. And that's creep spread...a fundamental part of the game, which was fleshed out even in WoL. And all this time, Idra's been out of the loop on that. I'm afraid no amount of high-powered analytical skills and veteran savvy will compensate for an unprofessional attitude and a Dunning–Kruger syndrome. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:38 Morlock wrote: If he's so flawless as you seem to think, then you have to ask yourself WHY IN THE NAME OF HELL players like Suppy, who don't practice nearly as much, are objectively better players than him. You have to ask WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK someone with his experience, and who started HotS in the beta, didn't qualify for the Shoutcraft league of top 16 Americans. The answer is that he doesn't even evaluate his own replays, he won't be told anything, he doesn't have practice partners because he flames everyone who beats him, he attributes almost every defeat to his opponents playing badly, and he's constantly behind the meta-game -- sometimes to almost farcical lengths. As an example of the latter, Demuslim pointed out that Idra's creep spread is nowhere near as effective as Stephano's and is literally minutes behind. And that's creep spread...a fundamental part of the game, which was fleshed out even in WoL. And all this time, Idra's been out of the loop on that. I'm afraid no amount of high-powered analytical skills and veteran savvy will compensate for an unprofessional attitude and a Dunning–Kruger syndrome. That's the most disappointing thing of all. Idra used to be able to do pretty well for himself when Zerg was, to an outside observer a lot weaker than it was in other periods. His stubborn mentality and adherence to a pretty defined playstyle with emphasis on mechanical chops seemed to be a bonus to him then (in terms of maintaining a certain skill level), and subsequently became a massive hindrance. I mean, Idra or Ret taking out GSL level Terrans with Muta/ling/bling was a big deal, to the degree that many people really remember those games. However, both those guys never really pushed from being really top-tier foreign Zergs when the metagame/whatever you want to call it was clearly more favourable to Zergs towards the end of WoL. It's always been pretty bizarre to me. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
Only reason for me to stop watching Idra is if he went to LoL. I really hope not. Riot probably already poaching him though with shitloads of money and promises he can say whatever he wants :/ | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:15 Facultyadjutant wrote: Idra joins Liquid He becomes the epitome of manner Meets huk in wsc Idra: Just so you know Our friendship Huk: Fuck off Idra: Was just a halluc LOL that was quite funny | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:44 Wombat_NI wrote: That's the most disappointing thing of all. Idra used to be able to do pretty well for himself when Zerg was, to an outside observer a lot weaker than it was in other periods. His stubborn mentality and adherence to a pretty defined playstyle with emphasis on mechanical chops seemed to be a bonus to him then (in terms of maintaining a certain skill level), and subsequently became a massive hindrance. I mean, Idra or Ret taking out GSL level Terrans with Muta/ling/bling was a big deal, to the degree that many people really remember those games. However, both those guys never really pushed from being really top-tier foreign Zergs when the metagame/whatever you want to call it was clearly more favourable to Zergs towards the end of WoL. It's always been pretty bizarre to me. I actually know why idra/ret still didn't do very good at end of WoL even when zvp/zvt was zerg favored. Playing the style of turtle till deathball and win while it worked is just something that doesn't work for everyone. For example, when that style became pretty much the only way to consistently win games, I dropped in skill a ton. Something that was easy to do, I sucked at. I couldn't handle the bl/corr/infestor. Now by couldn't handle I mean it was so boring I hated having to do it. There are just some players like me (and presumably ret/idra) who just can't do that style very good because it was incredibly boring and doesn't play to the players strengths. For instance I would say my mechanics are pretty good. When it came down to that deathball style play, mechanics didn't really matter as it mainly came down to just getting the army. If you somehow lost a 200/200 bl/corr/infestor army (something that was very rare lol) you can't really remax on that in a timely frame and that's usually gg. Short version: Some players can't play that boring turtley style very well, I would guarantee idra/ret and many others were that way which is why their results didn't get better. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On May 11 2013 16:38 Morlock wrote: You have to ask WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK someone with his experience, and who started HotS in the beta, didn't qualify for the Shoutcraft league of top 16 Americans. I thought it was because Idra insta-leaves too many ladder games, especially vs. demuslim. | ||
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