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TheChostoProject
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico96 Posts
May 11 2013 07:53 GMT
#3801
He is one of the few guys in the industry that wasnt afraid to talk, to tell what was really happening.

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.

Best of luck for Idra.
www.soundclick.com/thechostoproject
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 11 2013 08:00 GMT
#3802
lol what the shit..

never would have expected this !
T H C makes ppl happy
MrSourGit
Profile Joined August 2012
England135 Posts
May 11 2013 08:00 GMT
#3803
On May 11 2013 16:53 TheChostoProject wrote:
He is one of the few guys in the industry that wasnt afraid to talk, to tell what was really happening.

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.

Best of luck for Idra.



..... Well , you really just changed everyone opinion ..... Everyone's thinking now aren't they ?!?! ..... Lol.


Idra has been acting like a prick for too long , still 1 of my favourite players , he's the guy I 1st really learnt from watching , teaching me the basics of sc2 playing Zerg , little tricks that work a treat and so forth.
But ....
... He has been playing awful for a long time without even a glimpse of promise .... Hope he does well and starts to be competitive again .... Doubt we will see that though.


Winston Churchill - ''I may be drunk, Miss , but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'
Shortynut
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia78 Posts
May 11 2013 08:03 GMT
#3804
The difficulty in releasing IdrA wasn't just the fact that he was close with everyone there, it's the fact that he draws in a HUGE following, and they sadly have to give that up for the people that are paying their bills. I bet 90% of his fan base laughed at his comment (I know I did, because trolling IdrA is funny) regardless of his performance he was a massive attraction to the team for the longest time. Calling them all "a bunch of fucks" isn't nearly as bad as telling someone they deserve cancer and to die from it, but his latest comment wasn't directed at one person, it was directed at thousands. Fact is that he was being himself for too long and sponsors had enough. It's the accumulation of all these factors and then the fact that the team will lose viewers AND a popular attraction that makes it difficult, and the sponsors throwing money at the team are really the ones inControl, therefore he was fired.

I've been watching idra for years, and in that time he has had more positive moments in EG that far out weighted the small minority of ugly comments he has made, and sadly Physics dictates that one large enough negative can cancel a thousand positives.
Chromatic
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore88 Posts
May 11 2013 08:03 GMT
#3805
hope to see him come back better and stronger since he won't be leaving esports.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
May 11 2013 08:03 GMT
#3806
On May 11 2013 16:53 TheChostoProject wrote:

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.


I don't watch nerds fucking. I watch intelligent, hard-working performers playing a very difficult, complex strategy game.
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
May 11 2013 08:04 GMT
#3807
On May 11 2013 16:53 TheChostoProject wrote:
He is one of the few guys in the industry that wasnt afraid to talk, to tell what was really happening.

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.

Best of luck for Idra.


I let it sink for a while and came to the conclusion that your comment is retarded. Thank you for contributing!
twitter.com/laurifalck | I don't want to get you drunk, but, ah, that's a very fine Chardonnay you're not drinking. | TLO!
BlueLagoon
Profile Joined February 2011
France28 Posts
May 11 2013 08:05 GMT
#3808
I agree with you, he is a good teacher ... he is very good to stream and explaining what to do and when... unfortunately, he is a bad guy and history don't remember bad guys so much.

But Idra is also right when he said that industries respect one unique law: "Business is business". He could say everything he told us using this little sentence...
tahiti
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
May 11 2013 08:06 GMT
#3809
Its kind of ironical how idra says that no one cares about competition and only about drama in this industry pushed everyones buttons, but this thread where everyone flames him for what he said basically proves his point as the thread exploded and reached 191 pages in 1 day. I agree that he has no place on the big screens with his attitude but i also think what he said is true, especially the part about code s korean players getting sub 500 viewers being kinda sad.
sorry for dem one liners
Morlock
Profile Joined May 2013
68 Posts
May 11 2013 08:06 GMT
#3810
On May 11 2013 16:44 Wombat_NI wrote:
However, both those guys never really pushed from being really top-tier foreign Zergs when the metagame/whatever you want to call it was clearly more favourable to Zergs towards the end of WoL. It's always been pretty bizarre to me.
He was just behind on the meta-game, I think. Until near the end of WoL, he carried on using the old-fashioned muta-ling-bling against Terran and even hydras against Protoss. He didn't like massing queens and never seemed to master roach-ling pressure.

Probably the success of 2011 got to his head and he thought he was so superior to the NA scrubs that he doesn't have to pay any attention to them. And unsurprisingly, that didn't work so well. And then he starts getting apathetic and even more out of the loop, I suppose.
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 08:26:03
May 11 2013 08:09 GMT
#3811
On May 11 2013 12:39 Clazziquai10 wrote:
It's time to revive the OLD IdrA.


Too true, lately other than being notorious as the bad boy of eSports, he is becoming notorious for being a choker.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=choker

Edit: idrA basically signed his own pink slip as a progamer in that WCS(AM) Ro32 ragequit vs Polt yesterday.
Cauterize the area
Kowai01
Profile Joined March 2013
United States8 Posts
May 11 2013 08:22 GMT
#3812
I dont understand why they would get mad at idrA for saying he only plays this game for money because Stephano had said the same thing. Thats why they are pros. idk
Kowai is different than Kawaii!
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 11 2013 08:24 GMT
#3813
On May 11 2013 17:22 Kowai01 wrote:
I dont understand why they would get mad at idrA for saying he only plays this game for money because Stephano had said the same thing. Thats why they are pros. idk

Idra has not said he plays the game only for money, he said he was paid to treat people like shit. See the difference.
It's good to be back
Sisaroth
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium591 Posts
May 11 2013 08:26 GMT
#3814
Can't say i'm unhappy with this. I hope this is the end for his carreer. It would be sad for him, but he doesn't care about us so why would we care about him?
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 11 2013 08:30 GMT
#3815
On May 11 2013 17:04 zmsFlood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 16:53 TheChostoProject wrote:
He is one of the few guys in the industry that wasnt afraid to talk, to tell what was really happening.

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.

Best of luck for Idra.


I let it sink for a while and came to the conclusion that your comment is retarded. Thank you for contributing!


You're just in denial, it happens to the best of us
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
May 11 2013 08:33 GMT
#3816
On May 11 2013 17:24 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 17:22 Kowai01 wrote:
I dont understand why they would get mad at idrA for saying he only plays this game for money because Stephano had said the same thing. Thats why they are pros. idk

Idra has not said he plays the game only for money, he said he was paid to treat people like shit. See the difference.

While not brought in the nicest way, it is still pretty close to the truth. Imagine if Idra never did anything besides playing a game and typing GG in the end. No one would have heard of him in the first place.
LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
May 11 2013 08:33 GMT
#3817
On May 11 2013 16:53 TheChostoProject wrote:
He is one of the few guys in the industry that wasnt afraid to talk, to tell what was really happening.

In the end, we are all fuckers that watch some fucking nerds play video games, for a living.

Let that sink in for a while.

Best of luck for Idra.


So according to your logic not telling someone they should die of cancer would imply that you're afraid to talk....
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25155 Posts
May 11 2013 08:37 GMT
#3818
On May 11 2013 16:49 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 16:44 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 11 2013 16:38 Morlock wrote:
On May 11 2013 14:28 Qwyn wrote:

"Out of the loop and isolated from his peers..." I don't think so. Where exactly are you getting this? He watches the latest tourneys. He knows what is going on. He's a pro player for god's sake - he knows all these things.
If he's so flawless as you seem to think, then you have to ask yourself WHY IN THE NAME OF HELL players like Suppy, who don't practice nearly as much, are objectively better players than him.

You have to ask WHY IN THE NAME OF FUCK someone with his experience, and who started HotS in the beta, didn't qualify for the Shoutcraft league of top 16 Americans.

The answer is that he doesn't even evaluate his own replays, he won't be told anything, he doesn't have practice partners because he flames everyone who beats him, he attributes almost every defeat to his opponents playing badly, and he's constantly behind the meta-game -- sometimes to almost farcical lengths. As an example of the latter, Demuslim pointed out that Idra's creep spread is nowhere near as effective as Stephano's and is literally minutes behind. And that's creep spread...a fundamental part of the game, which was fleshed out even in WoL. And all this time, Idra's been out of the loop on that.

I'm afraid no amount of high-powered analytical skills and veteran savvy will compensate for an unprofessional attitude and a Dunning–Kruger syndrome.

That's the most disappointing thing of all. Idra used to be able to do pretty well for himself when Zerg was, to an outside observer a lot weaker than it was in other periods. His stubborn mentality and adherence to a pretty defined playstyle with emphasis on mechanical chops seemed to be a bonus to him then (in terms of maintaining a certain skill level), and subsequently became a massive hindrance.

I mean, Idra or Ret taking out GSL level Terrans with Muta/ling/bling was a big deal, to the degree that many people really remember those games.

However, both those guys never really pushed from being really top-tier foreign Zergs when the metagame/whatever you want to call it was clearly more favourable to Zergs towards the end of WoL. It's always been pretty bizarre to me.


I actually know why idra/ret still didn't do very good at end of WoL even when zvp/zvt was zerg favored. Playing the style of turtle till deathball and win while it worked is just something that doesn't work for everyone.

For example, when that style became pretty much the only way to consistently win games, I dropped in skill a ton. Something that was easy to do, I sucked at. I couldn't handle the bl/corr/infestor. Now by couldn't handle I mean it was so boring I hated having to do it.

There are just some players like me (and presumably ret/idra) who just can't do that style very good because it was incredibly boring and doesn't play to the players strengths. For instance I would say my mechanics are pretty good. When it came down to that deathball style play, mechanics didn't really matter as it mainly came down to just getting the army. If you somehow lost a 200/200 bl/corr/infestor army (something that was very rare lol) you can't really remax on that in a timely frame and that's usually gg.

Short version: Some players can't play that boring turtley style very well, I would guarantee idra/ret and many others were that way which is why their results didn't get better.

Makes a lot of sense, I've long suffered from trying not to either turtle or allin as Protoss, as it's my personal preference stylistically
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 08:46:45
May 11 2013 08:44 GMT
#3819
On May 11 2013 17:22 Kowai01 wrote:
I dont understand why they would get mad at idrA for saying he only plays this game for money because Stephano had said the same thing. Thats why they are pros. idk

Do you agree with me that TL is a pretty well moderated site? They keep the posters "in line with a certain code" (although the language used in some "you are banned" messages could be a little more polite IMO) through a set of disciplinary measures. First you get warned (for mild offenses) and after not showing a sign of improvement you are banned for a few days or maybe even more.

This action of EG is basically the same ... they "warned" him a few times and tried to work towards improving his temper quite a bit, but there comes a time when someone simply has to get banned ... It might not only be the comment which he has made in public, but also "his personal attitude in the office" of which we know nothing. In the end it is the sum of his actions and a justifiable response by EG.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 11 2013 08:45 GMT
#3820
I found some of these comments disturbing. idra is not EG. EG has lots of SC players. They have fighting game players. They have Dota teams and who knows what else. EG has to look out for all these different players. idra threatens the livelihood of all these people because he didn't have the common decency to refrain from saying things that you'd punch people in the mouth for saying to your face.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
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