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SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
May 11 2013 03:35 GMT
#3741
Where besides the OP and Idra's twitter can you find source information. Someone said something about statements from incontrol but never saw a link.
We Live to Die
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
May 11 2013 03:39 GMT
#3742
It's time to revive the OLD IdrA.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#3743
SayGen, check out the latest State of the Game which had Incontrol on. They discussed it some there and I believe he talked about it on his own stream sometime, but not positive on the second part.
HataZStriker
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States72 Posts
May 11 2013 03:41 GMT
#3744
F7878^%^$^%%#%#$^%&%*?!!!!?!!!!

Really?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/goodreads
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
May 11 2013 03:44 GMT
#3745
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
RevTiberius
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada353 Posts
May 11 2013 03:45 GMT
#3746
Seriously... this was overdue... if EG (or any other team) wants to be taken seriously they need to act a lot more professionally.

In any professional job people get fired for a lot less.... and rightfully so

Alec Baldwin sums it up quite well in his famous Glengarry Glen Ross speech

Teaching Chess to a Starcraft 2 Grandmaster: http://revtiberius.blogspot.ca
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
May 11 2013 03:47 GMT
#3747
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote:
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link


Thanks for posting this. Makes the situation a bit clearer.
Inno pls...
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
May 11 2013 03:50 GMT
#3748
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote:
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link


thanks for the video link
We Live to Die
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
May 11 2013 03:53 GMT
#3749
IdrA goes back to Korea --> Joins Team 8 --> All Kills KT taking out flash in the final game --> Bonjwa.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 11 2013 03:57 GMT
#3750
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote:
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link

thanks, that sheds some light on what actually happened. i am surprised, however, that the sponsors noticed some post on the TL forums....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
May 11 2013 03:57 GMT
#3751
On May 11 2013 12:19 GhostFiber wrote:
If IdrA won WCS, you really think EG would 'release' him?


Yes, the sponsors told EG to cut him or else they can't have their brand associated with that. Winning WCS is actually less important than branding and your sponsors.
srsly
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 04:10:57
May 11 2013 04:06 GMT
#3752
Come on, stop with the big bad EG wanted to protect his $$$ from the good sir Greg. And those big bad EG asked Greg to be a mean man and then he goes too far they release him to keep their dirty $$$ boohoohooo. And Gred was sacrificed on Wall Street's gods tutelage.

Seriously. There's a difference between playing the bad guy, which Greg did some years ago, and being a stupid jerk, an insulting and ragequiting losing machine that Idra became in the last months. Even as a fan you can see that, right ? Or did you tune in to his stream only to enjoy seeing him insult random people ?

Idra went too far for too long, and by too far I don't think he just crossed the line, he propulsed himself over the line. When I read posts like "Idra was fired because he was blunt", you do know what blunt mean right. If I wish your mom cancer, do you think I'm too blunt or. Idra was fired because he's a liability more than an asset nowadays. This guy can't post more than 2 consecutive posts on TL before being banned ffs, for years. Because he has a problem. Seems their psychiatrist wasn't very effective.
I mean, how do you react if you'd knew a normal guy, but you'd learn he had a completely different personality online. Online he's a guy you can't talk to, he'll answer shut up to your hello. And in front of you he acts normal.
I mean wtf, I'd want him to see a psychiatrist too. When EG management understood that Idra lied to them every time they warned him when he said he'd stop being an idiot, they fired him. Took them long enough, but it must have been the hardest decision of their life. They could not trust him anymore just to behave himself.

And this is only about his character. He could salvage himself by either not being an idiot, or by being good at the game. He couldn't do either.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
May 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#3753
On May 11 2013 12:57 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote:
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link

thanks, that sheds some light on what actually happened. i am surprised, however, that the sponsors noticed some post on the TL forums....


They probably didn't. IdrA's got his haters too.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Morlock
Profile Joined May 2013
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 04:18:49
May 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#3754
So he's staying in e-sports.

I seriously doubt he will rise from the ashes and return to his former glory as one of the top foreigners. His ego won't allow that. Starcraft 2 is not Brood War, and pure mechanical skill does not take you nearly so far as in that game. Starcraft 2 is much more knowledge-based. Self-criticism, strategy, collaborating with your peers to stay afoot of the meta-game...after a player reaches high GM, these things are more important than improved mechanics. Idra's balance-whining, excuse-mongering, rationalization-seeking mentality prevents him from ever getting good at those things. Hence why he's so limited as a player and is exceeded by players like Suppy who don't practice half as much as he does.

Realistically, even micro in Starcraft 2 contains an intrinsically creative and knowledge-based element. When banelings are coming at his drone line, Stephano will split the drones and take a few losses. Idra, like any noob, will select all his drones and try and move them all...and end up losing every single one. Because Idra doesn't seek to improve his play, these micro tricks don't occur to him. Even in terms of pure control, his attitude prevents him from ever being as good as he could be.

The only way out for Idra is to humble himself, prostrate himself, and start from the bottom. To acknowledge that there's about 50 foreigners, at least, who are currently better than he is. That there's at least 15 Zerg foreigners who are currently better than he is. That if greedy builds, cheese, etc., allowed inferior players to beat superior players, then he would be using these strategies himself to take down Koreans. That other players are much better at fighting "coin flip" strategies than he is himself, and there's a huge amount of potential improvement for him in this area. That it's quite possible to defeat Terran ZvT even at Korean Code S level -- proved by Life since the start of HotS.

If he makes these admissions to himself and his practice partners, then there might be some hope for him to become a top foreigner again. Otherwise, he'll be trapped in the pit dug by his own ego for many, many years to come.
FatkiddsLag
Profile Joined May 2010
United States413 Posts
May 11 2013 04:22 GMT
#3755
From @idrajit: gonna be doing a mini real talk with @itmeJP tomorrow night
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 04:25:30
May 11 2013 04:24 GMT
#3756
What makes you think that he has to start from the bottom, lol? Let's be honest here - you WANT him to start from the bottom - to see some sort of redemption arc from him...or some stupid shit like that.

In fact, I would say that IdrA's mechanics have room for improvement. He doesn't even use camera keys, IIRC. His injects suffer in the mid to late game. He's actually on the slow side - he's just super efficient. And that makes me happy. Why? Because if he really put in the effort he could bump up his mechanics to be even more phenomenal. His game sense is extremely strong. He's just an extremely safe player, and sometimes he tries to reason against players who are so illogical that the effort is worthless.

"Balance-whining, excuse-mongering, rationalization-seeking mentality" is just what you want to see. IdrA's downfall is what you, irrationally, desire to see happen...you really think that IdrA, who sticks to the top of reddit whenever any commotion involving him occurs, snatches up 7000 viewers easy, causes this giant 200 page thread...and was the CORE of the EG brand and played a DAMN LARGE part in making it what it is today, is going ANYWHERE?

"He'll be trapped in the pit dug by his own ego for many, many years to come."

"Thanks for all the support. I will not be leaving eSports." - IdrA

Yeah, he's not going anywhere.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
May 11 2013 04:26 GMT
#3757
On May 11 2013 13:22 FatkiddsLag wrote:
From @idrajit: gonna be doing a mini real talk with @itmeJP tomorrow night

Oh God I can't wait. Probably just say the same stuff that Incontrol said.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
May 11 2013 04:28 GMT
#3758
On May 11 2013 13:26 Magic_Mike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 13:22 FatkiddsLag wrote:
From @idrajit: gonna be doing a mini real talk with @itmeJP tomorrow night

Oh God I can't wait. Probably just say the same stuff that Incontrol said.


He might, uh, talk about his future ? What he plans to do, where he plans to go...

The why, where, when, what, how?

I'm excited .
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 11 2013 04:29 GMT
#3759
On May 11 2013 13:22 FatkiddsLag wrote:
From @idrajit: gonna be doing a mini real talk with @itmeJP tomorrow night

cool even I'm curious to hear what he has to say lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 11 2013 04:40 GMT
#3760
On May 11 2013 12:44 Hrrrrm wrote:
For those looking for a little more information Incontrol talks a bit more why this last incident was the final straw for Idra. Idra has an outburst (whole Capoch and cancer dieing thing) sponsors go to EG management say they can't stand for that type of talk. Management talks with Idra, management tells sponsors they've had a chat and it won't happen again. A week later Idra makes basically a worse comment since it's directed to the community that this whole industry relies on and they have to pull the plug. Idra did it to himself sadly.

Video Link


Wow.

"IdrA, you can't tell people to die of cancer. Our sponsors won't codone this level of anger and personal hatred; they don't want to be associated with a player that treats people like shit."

Fast forward a couple of weeks.

"I get paid to treat people like shit, LOLLERCATS!"

IdrA not only did exactly what management promised sponsors he wouldn't do — he actually threw it back in their faces, essentially claiming he was doing exactly what his management and sponsors wanted.

Yeah. THAT'S BAD.
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