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I read all 172 pages and easily the highlight was when we went on a 4 page tangent on EG signing Tara Babcock. Only on an Idra thread could that happen. Good show mates.
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On May 11 2013 04:08 mycro wrote:
This thread is awesome :D
Waiting for some sort of official statement from IdrA...
I am quite interested to hear his own view point of the situation 
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Wow, IdrA was right in the sense that he was attractive because of his personality and not performance. But isn't that how SC works? I don't know, but a team won't pick him up for performance, only personality.
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On May 11 2013 04:00 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:57 Magic_Mike wrote:On May 11 2013 03:53 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 Myt wrote:On May 11 2013 02:16 IPA wrote:
In professional life, you can't act like a spoiled, raging child and expect your employers to deal with it. I applaud EG for treating their business like a business and not like a day care center.
IdrA -- you can be relevent without being immature (I hope). Find your path bud. Your lack of respect for the community, other players, and yourself has become painful to see. Good luck. You are probably right about his behavior and his professionalism - this is also the reason why I'm not a fan of him. But the first thought in my mind after reading this news was that EG took the opportunity to get rid of Idra. This is of course pure speculation from myself but he got probably as much salary as their hole Korean Proleauge-Linup with exception of JD and Idra's level and his popularity and therefore his worth for EG slowly faded away through the last year. (just look at tournament results and stream numbers) I'm pretty sure if he would still be on top of his career EG would never released him for this stuff. This isn't an unreasonable speculation, but I think it's highly improbable. EG doesn't have a business model that is strictly related to skill-base - they also invest in strong personalities that get exposure (i.e Geoff. "Incontrol" Robinson). Idra, though quite the opposite of Incontrol with regards to his professionalism and personality, still was able to be marketed as a "tough" guy / "badass nerd". That image of Idra, however, is severely damaged when he openly taunted and insulted his entire viewership and customer-base. To think that Idra's viewership only consisted of die-hard fans or trolls is ridiculous - it was mostly a casual audience that wasn't heavily invested in Idra, but had disposable income and enjoyed being part of the e-sports scene. He literally told those people, who have nothing to do with any drama or anything, really, that they were all "fucks" and "sheep". When you say something like that to your customers, it's unrecoverable. I'll reiterate that it's like owning a bakery, and every time a customer walks in you say: "You're a fat fuck, can't believe you actually buy my pastries HAHA". . . regardless of who the customer is. Works for Chef Ramsey. chef ramsay doesn't ragequit when something doesn't go his way either.
And he's good at what he does (cuisine).
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On May 11 2013 04:33 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:00 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 11 2013 03:57 Magic_Mike wrote:On May 11 2013 03:53 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 Myt wrote:On May 11 2013 02:16 IPA wrote:
In professional life, you can't act like a spoiled, raging child and expect your employers to deal with it. I applaud EG for treating their business like a business and not like a day care center.
IdrA -- you can be relevent without being immature (I hope). Find your path bud. Your lack of respect for the community, other players, and yourself has become painful to see. Good luck. You are probably right about his behavior and his professionalism - this is also the reason why I'm not a fan of him. But the first thought in my mind after reading this news was that EG took the opportunity to get rid of Idra. This is of course pure speculation from myself but he got probably as much salary as their hole Korean Proleauge-Linup with exception of JD and Idra's level and his popularity and therefore his worth for EG slowly faded away through the last year. (just look at tournament results and stream numbers) I'm pretty sure if he would still be on top of his career EG would never released him for this stuff. This isn't an unreasonable speculation, but I think it's highly improbable. EG doesn't have a business model that is strictly related to skill-base - they also invest in strong personalities that get exposure (i.e Geoff. "Incontrol" Robinson). Idra, though quite the opposite of Incontrol with regards to his professionalism and personality, still was able to be marketed as a "tough" guy / "badass nerd". That image of Idra, however, is severely damaged when he openly taunted and insulted his entire viewership and customer-base. To think that Idra's viewership only consisted of die-hard fans or trolls is ridiculous - it was mostly a casual audience that wasn't heavily invested in Idra, but had disposable income and enjoyed being part of the e-sports scene. He literally told those people, who have nothing to do with any drama or anything, really, that they were all "fucks" and "sheep". When you say something like that to your customers, it's unrecoverable. I'll reiterate that it's like owning a bakery, and every time a customer walks in you say: "You're a fat fuck, can't believe you actually buy my pastries HAHA". . . regardless of who the customer is. Works for Chef Ramsey. chef ramsay doesn't ragequit when something doesn't go his way either. And he's good at what he does (cuisine).
And are we really going to use some raging chef on TV as a role model benchmark for esports?
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On May 11 2013 04:26 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:22 Blargh wrote:On May 11 2013 04:19 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 04:10 Blargh wrote:On May 11 2013 04:03 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:57 Klondikebar wrote:On May 11 2013 03:53 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 Myt wrote:On May 11 2013 02:16 IPA wrote:
In professional life, you can't act like a spoiled, raging child and expect your employers to deal with it. I applaud EG for treating their business like a business and not like a day care center.
IdrA -- you can be relevent without being immature (I hope). Find your path bud. Your lack of respect for the community, other players, and yourself has become painful to see. Good luck. You are probably right about his behavior and his professionalism - this is also the reason why I'm not a fan of him. But the first thought in my mind after reading this news was that EG took the opportunity to get rid of Idra. This is of course pure speculation from myself but he got probably as much salary as their hole Korean Proleauge-Linup with exception of JD and Idra's level and his popularity and therefore his worth for EG slowly faded away through the last year. (just look at tournament results and stream numbers) I'm pretty sure if he would still be on top of his career EG would never released him for this stuff. This isn't an unreasonable speculation, but I think it's highly improbable. EG doesn't have a business model that is strictly related to skill-base - they also invest in strong personalities that get exposure (i.e Geoff. "Incontrol" Robinson). Idra, though quite the opposite of Incontrol with regards to his professionalism and personality, still was able to be marketed as a "tough" guy / "badass nerd". That image of Idra, however, is severely damaged when he openly taunted and insulted his entire viewership and customer-base. To think that Idra's viewership only consisted of die-hard fans or trolls is ridiculous - it was mostly a casual audience that wasn't heavily invested in Idra, but had disposable income and enjoyed being part of the e-sports scene. He literally told those people, who have nothing to do with any drama or anything, really, that they were all "fucks" and "sheep". When you say something like that to your customers, it's unrecoverable. I'll reiterate that it's like owning a bakery, and every time a customer walks in you say: "You're a fat fuck, can't believe you actually buy my pastries HAHA". . . regardless of who the customer is. Except that people are fans of comedians who do nothing but insult them. I just think there has to be more going on that we don't know about for them to release IdrA. For all the "HE WAS MEAN TO HIS FANS!!!" going on in this thread people sure ate it up for several years. There's something else going on here that...really I don't care about. I just hope IdrA can remake his image into something marketable and get picked up again or find another career. Being unemployed sucks balls. Lol really? You're equating Idra's behavior to a comedy routine - a form of entertainment where someone makes a joke that sometimes involves the audience? Comedian's of all people know how fickle a crowd can be - it takes some serious skill to get away with insulting the audience even as a joke, much less being absolutely serious as Idra was. You're forgetting that Idra didn't just call his entire audience "a bunch of fucks", he went a step further and actually stated that EG endorses his attacks and that he is making money every time he exhibits abusive behavior towards anyone, including innocent bystanders. Trust me man, if someone is being told they are a stupid, fat "fuck" and a "sheep" after entering a bakery to buy a pastry, do you really think they are going to continue patronizing that business? Anyone who thinks that they can retain customers this way is out of touch with reality and the target audience of companies like EG. Honestly, if someone told me that when I walked into their bakery, I'd find it pretty humorous and buy my pastries anyway. Surprising character to find in a bakery, ya know? Spices things up. Also, we aren't really sure if Idra was 100% serious or just making a sarcastic remark with some truth in it. I think you're out of touch. Most people wouldn't find it funny and wouldn't continue to buy products. Idra knew how serious his post was - someone as tactically affluent as he could not possibly have been ignorant of the consequences. He knew what he was saying and he stood by his statement by not making any attempt to clarify it. Obviously most people wouldn't react that way....... But why would he clarify it? He really didn't seem to care that much in the first place, haha. He probably would have been in a much better position if he did, but that clearly was not a huge concern to him. Alex already clarified it for him. He DOESN't get paid to do it, lol.
Yes... But at the time, he obviously did not care much.
Would he go back in time and change what he said if he knew he would get released from EG? You know, I bet he would.
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On May 11 2013 04:18 CamoPillbox wrote:
suprise suprise but i dont know if this is not only start of EG kicking old players( in my opinion they all time know what idra can do ) Puma , Lzgamer now Idra who is next ??? If they force out or kick another player in next few months we know from where wind come .
lol, LZgamer left ages ago and everyone was pretty much in agreement that it was time given he hadn't posted any results since 2010 and was more a 'personality figure' anyway (could be wrong but I think he was one of the first people to actually stream?). According to the statement released EG actually wanted to retain Puma, but on a re-negotiated contract. Puma wasn't happy with the new terms/thought he could do better and both sides parted ways. And finally we come to idra, which quite frankly has been a long time coming.
So who's left, Machine, okay, his future does look a little shaky when you consider his results/presence, but he’s lasted this long, even outlasted Idra. Huk, DeMuslim, Thorzain and Stephano will not be released (yes, Huk does still have great value as a player). If they do leave in the next year I wager it'll be the choice of the player rather than EG. Their Korean squad is almost totally new so that's not going anywhere either. JYP's future did look shaky for a while but he's turned out to be a pretty decent asset in Proleague so I reckon he's safe. Incontrol.. lol there’s just no way. I wouldn’t be surprised if Incontrol eventually inherited EG (in a manner of speaking).
I'd hardly predict EG is going through or gearing up for a mass exodus of players.
*EDIT* To be honest the only EG release that ever caught me off guard was one you didn't mention, Axslav, was surprised to see him go as his results actually weren't that bad, but he's done quite well for himself anyways.
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On May 11 2013 04:33 Hababaloo wrote:
Wow, IdrA was right in the sense that he was attractive because of his personality and not performance. But isn't that how SC works? I don't know, but a team won't pick him up for performance, only personality.
He is performing better than a lot of other people
Idras' statement on the whole ordeal is going to be interesting
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If Destiny can be picked up 3 or 4 times, idra will for sure get picked up.
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On May 11 2013 04:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:33 Agathon wrote:On May 11 2013 04:00 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 11 2013 03:57 Magic_Mike wrote:On May 11 2013 03:53 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 Myt wrote:On May 11 2013 02:16 IPA wrote:
In professional life, you can't act like a spoiled, raging child and expect your employers to deal with it. I applaud EG for treating their business like a business and not like a day care center.
IdrA -- you can be relevent without being immature (I hope). Find your path bud. Your lack of respect for the community, other players, and yourself has become painful to see. Good luck. You are probably right about his behavior and his professionalism - this is also the reason why I'm not a fan of him. But the first thought in my mind after reading this news was that EG took the opportunity to get rid of Idra. This is of course pure speculation from myself but he got probably as much salary as their hole Korean Proleauge-Linup with exception of JD and Idra's level and his popularity and therefore his worth for EG slowly faded away through the last year. (just look at tournament results and stream numbers) I'm pretty sure if he would still be on top of his career EG would never released him for this stuff. This isn't an unreasonable speculation, but I think it's highly improbable. EG doesn't have a business model that is strictly related to skill-base - they also invest in strong personalities that get exposure (i.e Geoff. "Incontrol" Robinson). Idra, though quite the opposite of Incontrol with regards to his professionalism and personality, still was able to be marketed as a "tough" guy / "badass nerd". That image of Idra, however, is severely damaged when he openly taunted and insulted his entire viewership and customer-base. To think that Idra's viewership only consisted of die-hard fans or trolls is ridiculous - it was mostly a casual audience that wasn't heavily invested in Idra, but had disposable income and enjoyed being part of the e-sports scene. He literally told those people, who have nothing to do with any drama or anything, really, that they were all "fucks" and "sheep". When you say something like that to your customers, it's unrecoverable. I'll reiterate that it's like owning a bakery, and every time a customer walks in you say: "You're a fat fuck, can't believe you actually buy my pastries HAHA". . . regardless of who the customer is. Works for Chef Ramsey. chef ramsay doesn't ragequit when something doesn't go his way either. And he's good at what he does (cuisine). And are we really going to use some raging chef on TV as a role model benchmark for esports?
As a raging one in a prefessionnal business with exigent customers...It could be a "not that bad" comparison in fact.
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Good on you EG, Idra is bad mannered and incredibly rude. (That is me biting me tongue!)
Saying "It just so happens I get paid to treat you like it."
That crosses the line, I wish him luck with what follows but I look forward to someone with a much better attitude to not only their community but appreciation for the current job they have, to take his place.
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On May 11 2013 04:35 Greendotz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:18 CamoPillbox wrote:
suprise suprise but i dont know if this is not only start of EG kicking old players( in my opinion they all time know what idra can do ) Puma , Lzgamer now Idra who is next ??? If they force out or kick another player in next few months we know from where wind come . So who's left, Machine, okay, his future does look a little shaky when you consider his results/presence, but he’s lasted this long, even outlasted Idra. .
I think Machine is actually the FIRST EG SC2 player.
I have a hard time imagining them letting Machine go, ever. He's too nice.
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On May 11 2013 04:36 Butterednuts wrote:
If Destiny can be picked up 3 or 4 times, idra will for sure get picked up.
destiny is clever
idra isnt
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This is the stage idra is in now
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On May 11 2013 04:35 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:26 stratmatt wrote:On May 11 2013 04:22 Blargh wrote:On May 11 2013 04:19 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 04:10 Blargh wrote:On May 11 2013 04:03 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:57 Klondikebar wrote:On May 11 2013 03:53 SCST wrote:On May 11 2013 03:45 Myt wrote:On May 11 2013 02:16 IPA wrote:
In professional life, you can't act like a spoiled, raging child and expect your employers to deal with it. I applaud EG for treating their business like a business and not like a day care center.
IdrA -- you can be relevent without being immature (I hope). Find your path bud. Your lack of respect for the community, other players, and yourself has become painful to see. Good luck. You are probably right about his behavior and his professionalism - this is also the reason why I'm not a fan of him. But the first thought in my mind after reading this news was that EG took the opportunity to get rid of Idra. This is of course pure speculation from myself but he got probably as much salary as their hole Korean Proleauge-Linup with exception of JD and Idra's level and his popularity and therefore his worth for EG slowly faded away through the last year. (just look at tournament results and stream numbers) I'm pretty sure if he would still be on top of his career EG would never released him for this stuff. This isn't an unreasonable speculation, but I think it's highly improbable. EG doesn't have a business model that is strictly related to skill-base - they also invest in strong personalities that get exposure (i.e Geoff. "Incontrol" Robinson). Idra, though quite the opposite of Incontrol with regards to his professionalism and personality, still was able to be marketed as a "tough" guy / "badass nerd". That image of Idra, however, is severely damaged when he openly taunted and insulted his entire viewership and customer-base. To think that Idra's viewership only consisted of die-hard fans or trolls is ridiculous - it was mostly a casual audience that wasn't heavily invested in Idra, but had disposable income and enjoyed being part of the e-sports scene. He literally told those people, who have nothing to do with any drama or anything, really, that they were all "fucks" and "sheep". When you say something like that to your customers, it's unrecoverable. I'll reiterate that it's like owning a bakery, and every time a customer walks in you say: "You're a fat fuck, can't believe you actually buy my pastries HAHA". . . regardless of who the customer is. Except that people are fans of comedians who do nothing but insult them. I just think there has to be more going on that we don't know about for them to release IdrA. For all the "HE WAS MEAN TO HIS FANS!!!" going on in this thread people sure ate it up for several years. There's something else going on here that...really I don't care about. I just hope IdrA can remake his image into something marketable and get picked up again or find another career. Being unemployed sucks balls. Lol really? You're equating Idra's behavior to a comedy routine - a form of entertainment where someone makes a joke that sometimes involves the audience? Comedian's of all people know how fickle a crowd can be - it takes some serious skill to get away with insulting the audience even as a joke, much less being absolutely serious as Idra was. You're forgetting that Idra didn't just call his entire audience "a bunch of fucks", he went a step further and actually stated that EG endorses his attacks and that he is making money every time he exhibits abusive behavior towards anyone, including innocent bystanders. Trust me man, if someone is being told they are a stupid, fat "fuck" and a "sheep" after entering a bakery to buy a pastry, do you really think they are going to continue patronizing that business? Anyone who thinks that they can retain customers this way is out of touch with reality and the target audience of companies like EG. Honestly, if someone told me that when I walked into their bakery, I'd find it pretty humorous and buy my pastries anyway. Surprising character to find in a bakery, ya know? Spices things up. Also, we aren't really sure if Idra was 100% serious or just making a sarcastic remark with some truth in it. I think you're out of touch. Most people wouldn't find it funny and wouldn't continue to buy products. Idra knew how serious his post was - someone as tactically affluent as he could not possibly have been ignorant of the consequences. He knew what he was saying and he stood by his statement by not making any attempt to clarify it. Obviously most people wouldn't react that way....... But why would he clarify it? He really didn't seem to care that much in the first place, haha. He probably would have been in a much better position if he did, but that clearly was not a huge concern to him. Alex already clarified it for him. He DOESN't get paid to do it, lol. Yes... But at the time, he obviously did not care much. Would he go back in time and change what he said if he knew he would get released from EG? You know, I bet he would.
Nobody, including you, knows if "[Idra] obviously did not care much" and simply made a grammatical error that he didn't bother to correct, or if his statement reflected his true feelings about the entire community.
If you're hypothesis is correct, then it still illustrates to the viewership that he has no respect for any of us because he did not bother to clarify his verbal attack when he had near 24-hours to do so before being fired.
The guy basically stood by his remarks, regardless of whether he realized they were right or wrong.
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On May 11 2013 03:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:38 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 03:36 MilesCru wrote:On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained. Dude.. tiger, Tyson, kobe, vick have all accomplished a lot in their respective sports. but, idra, in sc2 (don't know about bw) has done that well... and when you embarrass your company like that you will get fired. kudos to EG. IdrA is the most accomplished foreigner. Didn't get as far as Jinro in GSL Didn't win MLG as much as Huk Hasn't won a Proleague match like Thorzain Doesn't beat Koreans as much as Stephano etc....
I believe he was talking for BW as well.
He was very very close to being on the A team of CJ Entus in BW, and easily the strongest foreigner in BW of all time, winning like 70% of tournaments he entered and placing very high in the rest. Can you say that any foreigner is close to being on the A team of any Proleague team right now? Maybe a few, at best, are low A team material. And none win 70% of all tournaments they enter.
The gap back then was WAY WAY WAY higher. Any dish-washing B teamer or even just a lowly practice partner of any pro team (they aren't even on the team) would stomp 99.9% of ANY foreigner back then (Nony got close to beating some in Courage, at his prime). Compared to that, Idra took games off Stork and did good in the inside team tournaments. Which is ridiculous considering the language barrier.
I disagree with EG's move, but I guess they fucked up handling it the correct way, so I guess this is the best they could do considering that. Idra should tone it down though.
I mean, the team name is Evil Geniuses... and Idra was there from the start, building up their name, and now suddenly they change their standards somewhat. I guess they're entitled since they give a lot of money, but damn...
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On May 11 2013 04:41 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 11 2013 03:38 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 03:36 MilesCru wrote:On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained. Dude.. tiger, Tyson, kobe, vick have all accomplished a lot in their respective sports. but, idra, in sc2 (don't know about bw) has done that well... and when you embarrass your company like that you will get fired. kudos to EG. IdrA is the most accomplished foreigner. Didn't get as far as Jinro in GSL Didn't win MLG as much as Huk Hasn't won a Proleague match like Thorzain Doesn't beat Koreans as much as Stephano etc.... I believe he was talking for BW as well. He was very very close to being on the A team of CJ Entus in BW, and easily the strongest foreigner in BW of all time, winning like 70% of tournaments he entered and placing very high in the rest. Can you say that any foreigner is close to being on the A team of any Proleague team right now? Maybe a few, at best, are low A team material. And none win 70% of all tournaments they enter. The gap back then was WAY WAY WAY higher. Any dish-washing B teamer or even just a lowly practice partner of any pro team (they aren't even on the team) would stomp 99.9% of ANY foreigner back then (Nony got close to beating some in Courage, at his prime). Compared to that, Idra took games off Stork and did good in the inside team tournaments. Which is ridiculous considering the language barrier. I disagree with EG's move, but I guess they fucked up handling it the correct way, so I guess this is the best they could do considering that. Idra should tone it down though. I mean, the team name is Evil Geniuses... and Idra was there from the start, building up their name, and now suddenly they change their standards somewhat. I guess they're entitled since they give a lot of money, but damn...
By your logic SlayerS must be some very cruel dudes Oo
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On May 11 2013 04:41 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:59 Thieving Magpie wrote:On May 11 2013 03:38 Sqorpion wrote:On May 11 2013 03:36 MilesCru wrote:On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained. Dude.. tiger, Tyson, kobe, vick have all accomplished a lot in their respective sports. but, idra, in sc2 (don't know about bw) has done that well... and when you embarrass your company like that you will get fired. kudos to EG. IdrA is the most accomplished foreigner. Didn't get as far as Jinro in GSL Didn't win MLG as much as Huk Hasn't won a Proleague match like Thorzain Doesn't beat Koreans as much as Stephano etc.... I believe he was talking for BW as well. He was very very close to being on the A team of CJ Entus in BW, and easily the strongest foreigner in BW of all time, winning like 70% of tournaments he entered and placing very high in the rest. Can you say that any foreigner is close to being on the A team of any Proleague team right now? Maybe a few, at best, are low A team material. And none win 70% of all tournaments they enter. The gap back then was WAY WAY WAY higher. Any dish-washing B teamer or even just a lowly practice partner of any pro team (they aren't even on the team) would stomp 99.9% of ANY foreigner back then (Nony got close to beating some in Courage, at his prime). Compared to that, Idra took games off Stork and did good in the inside team tournaments. Which is ridiculous considering the language barrier. I disagree with EG's move, but I guess they fucked up handling it the correct way, so I guess this is the best they could do considering that. Idra should tone it down though. I mean, the team name is Evil Geniuses... and Idra was there from the start, building up their name, and now suddenly they change their standards somewhat. I guess they're entitled since they give a lot of money, but damn...
Thank you <3
Also.. So IdrA isn't as accomplished as Stephano, Thorzain, HuK and Jinro combined is what he is saying? Aw well damn, well I guess he's still the most accomplished foreigner then.
What this man said is completely true.
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They can form a new team called Idra's Destiny and make money from streaming.
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On May 11 2013 04:39 peidongyang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 04:36 Butterednuts wrote:
If Destiny can be picked up 3 or 4 times, idra will for sure get picked up. destiny is clever idra isnt
Lol, i hope you aren't serious
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