EPTI really hope this serves as a BIGGER wake up call for IdrA; relative to the non-Korean scene, he's pretty well off in terms of his talent/skill at the game (as much as people may dislike him, you can't deny there are still a lot of foreign "pros" that aren't as good). Anyway, he has the capacity to achieve, his mentality just isn't there. You play with so much negativity, it's just so hard to prevent it from affecting your play. I think from Alex's viewpoint, this was the proper thing to do. Now, all we can hope for is IdrA to shape up and make a strong come back.
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
I really hope this serves as a BIGGER wake up call for IdrA; relative to the non-Korean scene, he's pretty well off in terms of his talent/skill at the game (as much as people may dislike him, you can't deny there are still a lot of foreign "pros" that aren't as good). Anyway, he has the capacity to achieve, his mentality just isn't there. You play with so much negativity, it's just so hard to prevent it from affecting your play. I think from Alex's viewpoint, this was the proper thing to do. Now, all we can hope for is IdrA to shape up and make a strong come back. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:27 Wildmoon wrote: Isn't this the best for him as well now that he doesn't have to play the game he hates with passion? The thought of a person getting paid for playing the game he shits on all the time and being an asshole doesn't sit right with me especially it's the game I really love. Ya, i mean regardless of what someone might think of IdrA regarding his manner, he did not appear to enjoy playing SC2 professionally, he seemed to hate it allot. Maybe he at least should take a week off and think things through before coming back and continue playing. | ||
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cRaZypYRo
Germany191 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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majava
Finland248 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:30 JerKy wrote: I'm gonna pretend this massive pooling of negative comments and ignorance isn't being posted I really hope this serves as a BIGGER wake up call for IdrA; relative to the non-Korean scene, he's pretty well off in terms of his talent/skill at the game (as much as people may dislike him, you can't deny there are still a lot of foreign "pros" that aren't as good). Anyway, he has the capacity to achieve, his mentality just isn't there. You play with so much negativity, it's just so hard to prevent it from affecting your play. I think from Alex's viewpoint, this was the proper thing to do. Now, all we can hope for is IdrA to shape up and make a strong come back. I find the positive comments in this thread a lot more ignorant | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:29 tomatriedes wrote: Idra being Idra I can't see him being willing to take a salary cut to keep playing a game he's not very enthusiastic about and what non-Korean team can possibly match what EG was paying him? Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment. As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:29 playa wrote: Out of all the things Idra has said in the past, it's hard to not laugh at "that" being his undoing. The truth doesn't always sound pleasing to the ears and it doesn't always lead to good results, which is why so many are dishonest and only spew bs. Lesson learned here is do w/e you want, but simply don't make it appear that your employer condones it and shares the same sentiment. So basically it's cool to BM everyone (even teammates), but don't implicate paycheck issuers. Like that's the first time he's said anything disparaging about his fans... If someone gives you shit, you probably want to "own" them back. If he didn't get fired for that post, he would have done so. You can't really read into "o, he is not thankful for any of his fans or has no respect for any of them." How many viewers do you think Idra would have lost over those comments if EG didn't say anything/do anything about it? Probably 0. He probably would have even gained viewers, just to see what he will do next, only validating what he said. It's unfortunate he's not playing Terran in HotS, considering the success of Terrans in BW that were far worse than him. For people saying Idra is the most popular player, well who is also viewed as the most BM player. If you don't view him as a good player, then why does everyone like him? Personality? Well, he showed it and now it's a bad thing because maybe it's directed towards you? Maybe stop encouraging BM/rewarding it, then. Anything for entertainment that's not at your expense. If a player with a BM persona is going to eventually get fired for it, it's disappointing when it's pretty G rated/mild in comparison to some other stuff. But, I guess, it was simply directed towards people that are off limits. Not much of a lesson to be learned here or a drastic change in personality required. lol he won't become suddenly great at this game just because he changes his race to terran. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
He still has his unique personality and is one of the most well known players (if not the most well known SC2 player) but in retrospect it isn't too surprising they got rid of him. That being said, I was still completely shocked when I heard about it. | ||
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keimag23
Germany20 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:31 Lylat wrote:I guess he won't make that much money with us "fucks" now ... Sure he will, he got all the attention especially right now. And this makes him the value for future sponsorships etc. | ||
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ErrantKnight
Switzerland186 Posts
I just hope he doesn't leave the scene as that would be a huge loss not only for SC2 but also for esport. Greg always was one of the most controversial elements of the scene (esport scene not only SC2) and one of the most popular not only for his skills but also and particularly for his behavior (Just repeating her what everyone knows). I tend to doubt that Idra would join any team though because of the difficulty to manage him and because he isn't cheap (a former Brood War and SC2 champion, a huge fanbase...). A personal sponsorship would be the most logic end to this. He could also return to korea as he has links with Kespa teams, in particular CJ (which he was part of for years). He could also join Alliance. If they can manage Naniwa, they should be able to manage Idra. Lets see what is going to happen. He should be just fine for now (Geoff said he saved up) but he just moved to San Francisco. EG should support him a least a little to thank him for their three years of cooperation and Idra can easily make out a living from streaming. So let's see what comes out. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:32 Wildmoon wrote: lol he won't become suddenly great at this game just because he changes his race to terran. That was more to do with his initial choice in race. Zerg was better in WoL, but now Terran is better. He might not become great, but when you see people like QXC some bad c+/b- BW player looking like god in SC 2, there's simply no way Idra wouldn't be faring a lot better now if he originally picked Terrran. | ||
SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:30 Sissors wrote: I am absolutely not an Idra fan, and also don't hate him or something, I am fairly neutral. However the stream numbers don't show that the viewers are tired if 'this crap'. Players with a personality they show on their stream have far more viewers than those who don't. The casual viewer wants entertainment, and doesn't really care if what they view is the best of the best, or simply good players. And I also don't think that is bad. You have a valid argument, but I think you're off the mark. Look at this thread alone . . I agree that casual viewers want entertainment, but Idra doesn't even play his game all the way through anymore. And I'd say that most casual viewers finding out that Idra think they are "a bunch of fucks" are going to be think along the lines of: "what the hell did I ever do to deserve that bullshit? I just watch the games and buy merchandise... this guy hates my guts? I'm not buying his stuff anymore". Hence EG firing him, as Alex Garfield shrewdly perceived that this was the breaking point for the general community's tolerance of Idra. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote: Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment. As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up. He is saying that only non-Korean teams would pick him up and EG is the only team out there that would give him that kind of salary. If he is going to continue playing for a team, it isn't going to involve nearly as much money. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote: Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment. As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up. I'm saying Korean teams do have the financial ability to pay big wages, but obviously they're not going to hire Idra, so his only choice would be other foreign teams. However none of them have the ability to match EG's wages, so him quitting is the most likely outcome. | ||
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pseudocalm
Canada98 Posts
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tl2212
Belize731 Posts
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Glennial
Norway29 Posts
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tenacity
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On May 10 2013 17:34 playa wrote: That was more to do with his initial choice in race. Zerg was better in WoL, but now Terran is better. He might not become great, but when you see people like QXC some bad c+/b- BW player looking like god in SC 2, there's simply no way Idra wouldn't be faring a lot better now if he originally picked Terrran. Can you stop your stupid balance whine? Besides Zerg winning the two major tournaments in HOTS so far, we have 4 Zergs in the Ro8 in WoL and Zergs dominating WCS EU~. Stop balance whining and especially excuses that are nothing but stupid. QXC looking like a god? What. | ||
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Bermuda
Belgium411 Posts
EG took the inevitable decision here, and there were right to do so, imo, because it became obvious that he wouldn't change without that kind of sanction. But Idra has been part of the SC community / history to such an extend that it would be a really sad story if he went downhill from here. EG did what they had to do. And you gotta give them credit for trying year after year. But there is no point in hitting someone on the ground even if he misbehaved. The only sensible thing to do is wish that it will somehow turn into something positive for both EG and Idra. | ||
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