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marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
May 10 2013 08:08 GMT
#2521
Man this really sucks, I hope he doesnt retire, maybe it helps him to recover as a player.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 10 2013 08:08 GMT
#2522
Root.Idra? Or would even Root not take him?
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
May 10 2013 08:09 GMT
#2523
yeah he's gonna retire
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 10 2013 08:10 GMT
#2524
Did anything happen recently to bring this on? o:
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 08:10 GMT
#2525
On May 10 2013 17:09 Leach wrote:
yeah he's gonna retire


Source?
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
May 10 2013 08:10 GMT
#2526
On May 10 2013 17:00 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 16:44 Valikyr wrote:
On May 10 2013 16:40 styLesdavis wrote:
Why should anyone pick up Idra?
He isn`t relevant anymore skillwise...

I am actually really glad they "released the gracken".

Because he's still very popular. He wouldn't be hired for his skill but for his popularity though.

I don't understand why people keep saying he's not good anymore. Sure his skill alone won't net him the big bucks but he's still one of the best players in NA and if you add his fairly big following there's plenty of incentive for a team to pick him up. At the end of the day what happens next will be entirely up to Idra, what he wants to do. Does he say screw this and go back to school, does he buckle down and strive to regain his former glory, does he chase a personal sponsorship so he can sit and stream all day or whatever. Who the fuck knows. People act like he's just killed a kitten or something.


No, he is not.
santacruze
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden8 Posts
May 10 2013 08:11 GMT
#2527
Finally EG had enough of Greg's behaviour...
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 08:14:28
May 10 2013 08:12 GMT
#2528
On May 10 2013 17:02 Autotroph wrote:
Hate seeing people taking falls for voicing their opinion. Fucking money man. Suits try and sterilise all this and mold people into 'personalities' and 'forge brand identities' - which in idra's case backfired when he was too vitriolic for even his 'bad boy' box. Seeing Incontrol that choked up about his best friend being gkicked while still having to toe the party line is fucking sad man. 'trying to work on saying it a little less candidly'. I know I'll catch flak with people saying 'its a business yadda yadda yadda' but I think money poisons everything and I for one find it very sad indeed watching a man having to choose between saying what he thinks and doing what he's told.


He got kicked because his 'opinion' basically boils down to hating SC2, believing winning doesn't matter and that he gets paid to treat people like shit.

It has nothing to do with being 'too controversial' or 'opinionated.' He had became the e-sports equivalent of the bitter-old-man-at-the-office that hates himself and his job, and complains so much that he drags everyone else down with him.

He could be the nicest guy ever outside of the office, but it sounds like he made everyone else's job on the team a lot harder.
matt93
Profile Joined January 2013
Australia32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 08:14:43
May 10 2013 08:13 GMT
#2529
On May 10 2013 17:06 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:02 Autotroph wrote:
Hate seeing people taking falls for voicing their opinion. Fucking money man. Suits try and sterilise all this and mold people into 'personalities' and 'forge brand identities' - which in idra's case backfired when he was too vitriolic for even his 'bad boy' box. Seeing Incontrol that choked up about his best friend being gkicked while still having to toe the party line is fucking sad man. 'trying to work on saying it a little less candidly'. I know I'll catch flak with people saying 'its a business yadda yadda yadda' but I think money poisons everything and I for one find it very sad indeed watching a man having to choose between saying what he thinks and doing what he's told.


What is this fascination with saying that "EG molded Idra into what he is"? You're really mad at the situation and just trying target someone/some entity to vent your rage? There is absolutely zero evidence to support your wild statement. And even more importantly, everyone knows that Idra has always been like this, since way before EG. LoL comeon man.


Why do you keep attacking people voicing how they feel about the situation? Just because you're happy he lost his job and his home doesn't mean everyone else is. Can you ease off the throttle a bit and let people voice their opinions without shooting them down every second post?

Autotroph was right it was really confronting watching incontrol's reaction when he found out about idra. If that skype call was this thread you are slasher and everyone you're attacking is incontrol. People are in shock about what happened and you're being completely insensitive to a big event in esports and wondering about "what team he'll join next" (in this case attacking everyone by calling them "slightly off" and "really mad").

As for the comment that EG molding idra into idra, its true idra was already a pretty bm dude, but when you're being reinforced with money thrown in your face you'll tend to keep doing what you're doing since it appears to be working. I still don't think the entire reason for his removal was attitude related (what he said was pretty typical idra) and definitely has some financial/results underpinning but that's irrelevant and in the end it's still a shocking day for sc2.

Idra isn't what he used to be, but he's not bad either. He's still been in GM for multiple seasons (aka top 200) and whilst NA might not be the most competitive ladder, he is still one of the top 200 people on it and when its filled with people foreign from the region (there's many australians in it for example) he's still there. So to not call him a top US player or bad is pretty ridiculous.
I'm bad, really bad but I'll blame it on my internet.
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
May 10 2013 08:13 GMT
#2530
On May 10 2013 17:10 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:09 Leach wrote:
yeah he's gonna retire


Source?



right now he's so far behind the top foreigners..... and knowing greg's personality there's just no way he starts over again and fights his way back to the top....
In his eyes he deserves to be the best just because he's dedicated so much time to the game.

But then again, I'd be pleasantly surprised if he did.....
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
May 10 2013 08:15 GMT
#2531
terrible statement from EG (as they always are...) and BS reasons
if that D*** would have said that Idra hasnt brought in enough money and tourney wins to let him keep staying, that would have made this sh at least the tiniest bit believable; this way its just another PR clusterf***
but i honestly thought they wold kick HUK from the team (years ago actually)... lets see when he "goes"

User was temp banned for this post.
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
May 10 2013 08:16 GMT
#2532
On May 10 2013 17:06 SCST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:02 Autotroph wrote:
Hate seeing people taking falls for voicing their opinion. Fucking money man. Suits try and sterilise all this and mold people into 'personalities' and 'forge brand identities' - which in idra's case backfired when he was too vitriolic for even his 'bad boy' box. Seeing Incontrol that choked up about his best friend being gkicked while still having to toe the party line is fucking sad man. 'trying to work on saying it a little less candidly'. I know I'll catch flak with people saying 'its a business yadda yadda yadda' but I think money poisons everything and I for one find it very sad indeed watching a man having to choose between saying what he thinks and doing what he's told.


What is this fascination with saying that "EG molded Idra into what he is"? You're really mad at the situation and just trying target someone/some entity to vent your rage? There is absolutely zero evidence to support your wild statement. And even more importantly, everyone knows that Idra has always been like this, since way before EG. LoL comeon man.


Naa man im not saying idra wasn't like that to begin with, im saying the all the corporate involvement, whilst bringing bigger tournaments etc etc has a bad side - which in my opinion is the compartmentalising of people, teams and scenes. I agree idra has always been quick get angry and say exactly what he thinks in a way that ranges from blunt to insulting - and I think its sad that because of Monster energy drink and Doritos people can't be who they are. Nobody tried to change Idra, they formed an outward identity for him, the 'bad-boy' rage quiter and all that. Its ironic that while normally people get punished for something that doesn't fit the mold (Miley Cyrus sex tape or whatever), in Idras case he got dropped for being a concentrated version of his mold, which doesn't fly in the sterile and brittle world of corporate endorsements.
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dadde
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy314 Posts
May 10 2013 08:16 GMT
#2533
i hope he wont leave the scene :-(
Do Well,Fear No One
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
May 10 2013 08:16 GMT
#2534
I'm honestly not that surprised that its come to this. His behaviour recently has gone downhill even by his standards. I really think that he needs to take a hard look at his behaviour and find the root causes because I think that deep down he's a very unhappy person, and unhappy people often act out this way.
Partha
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand163 Posts
May 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#2535
Ugh I hope Greg doesn't retire, it's a pretty ruthless work market out there for someone without a particular degree/tons of experience. I doubt he would get employed just cause he seems really smart.
Flash - Fantasy- JangBi - Jaedong - Stork - Bisu - Life
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 08:17:51
May 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#2536
On May 10 2013 17:13 matt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:06 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:02 Autotroph wrote:
Hate seeing people taking falls for voicing their opinion. Fucking money man. Suits try and sterilise all this and mold people into 'personalities' and 'forge brand identities' - which in idra's case backfired when he was too vitriolic for even his 'bad boy' box. Seeing Incontrol that choked up about his best friend being gkicked while still having to toe the party line is fucking sad man. 'trying to work on saying it a little less candidly'. I know I'll catch flak with people saying 'its a business yadda yadda yadda' but I think money poisons everything and I for one find it very sad indeed watching a man having to choose between saying what he thinks and doing what he's told.


What is this fascination with saying that "EG molded Idra into what he is"? You're really mad at the situation and just trying target someone/some entity to vent your rage? There is absolutely zero evidence to support your wild statement. And even more importantly, everyone knows that Idra has always been like this, since way before EG. LoL comeon man.


Why do you keep attacking people voicing how they feel about the situation? Just because you're happy he lost his job and his home doesn't mean everyone else is. Can you ease off the throttle a bit and let people voice their opinions without shooting them down every second post?

Autotroph was right it was really confronting watching incontrol's reaction when he found out about idra. If that skype call was this thread you are slasher and everyone you're attacking is incontrol. People are in shock about what happened and you're being completely insensitive to a big event in esports and wondering about "what team he'll join next" (in this case attacking everyone by calling them "slightly off" and "really mad").

As for the comment that EG molding idra into idra, its true idra was already a pretty bm dude, but when you're being reinforced with money thrown in your face you'll tend to keep doing what you're doing since it appears to be working. I still don't think the entire reason for his removal was attitude related (what he said was pretty typical idra) and definitely has some financial/results underpinning but that's irrelevant and in the end it's still a shocking day for sc2.


No one here is shooting down posts that express sympathy, sadness and best wishes for Idra. However, people attacking EG and justifying Idra calling everyone "fucks", are going to get shot down and commented on.

Also, I'm not "happy" Idra was fired. I think it's the correct decision given the circumstances. I'm not dancing on Idra's grave, either. I am poking fun at the fanatics making irrational posts in this thread. Interesting that none of these people are able to counter any of the criticism of their nonsensical statements, isn't it?
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#2537
I hope a good team takes him. And builds him back up. The Gracken will return with the tide. I am sure.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 10 2013 08:18 GMT
#2538
On May 10 2013 17:13 Leach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:10 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:09 Leach wrote:
yeah he's gonna retire


Source?



right now he's so far behind the top foreigners..... and knowing greg's personality there's just no way he starts over again and fights his way back to the top....
In his eyes he deserves to be the best just because he's dedicated so much time to the game.

But then again, I'd be pleasantly surprised if he did.....

Do you even know Idra?

we all know how stubborn he is, and you think he won't get atleast a little "fuck you I'll show you fucks" attitude out of this?

I'd be unpleasently suprised if he didn't
In the woods, there lurks..
Cortza
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa328 Posts
May 10 2013 08:18 GMT
#2539
IMO Idra is a bit of a rogue personality. This could be a good thing for him. EG was getting a bit crowded.
FoxerGames
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia120 Posts
May 10 2013 08:19 GMT
#2540
On May 10 2013 17:13 Leach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:10 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:09 Leach wrote:
yeah he's gonna retire


Source?



right now he's so far behind the top foreigners..... and knowing greg's personality there's just no way he starts over again and fights his way back to the top....
In his eyes he deserves to be the best just because he's dedicated so much time to the game.

But then again, I'd be pleasantly surprised if he did.....


That's your source? By knowing his personality?
I didn't want to work so I didn't.
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