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Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
May 10 2013 08:39 GMT
#2581
Maybe the American community can focus on its actually talented, sportsmanlike players rather than focusing on feeding Idra's self destructive obsession with himself. You do have them, after all.

Besides Evil Geniuses don't really need him to function anyway. If they want stream revenue, DeMuslim is a far better ambassador for the brand. If they want exposure, Incontrol is ten times the host and fifty times the person. Thorzain and Suppy are far more skilled and they've got a proleague team.

Good job cutting the dead weight.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
May 10 2013 08:39 GMT
#2582
Idra fan: "Idra youre so badass bro, i love youuuuuuuuu!"

Idra: "you're all a bunch of fucks"

Idra fan: "Youre so amazing, i will defend you until the end !"
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
May 10 2013 08:40 GMT
#2583
Wasn't expecting this, be strong idrA, best of luck
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
May 10 2013 08:40 GMT
#2584
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:29 tomatriedes wrote:
Idra being Idra I can't see him being willing to take a salary cut to keep playing a game he's not very enthusiastic about and what non-Korean team can possibly match what EG was paying him?


Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
sfbaydave
Profile Joined May 2011
United States32 Posts
May 10 2013 08:41 GMT
#2585
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 10 2013 08:41 GMT
#2586
On May 10 2013 17:34 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 17:32 Wildmoon wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:29 playa wrote:
Out of all the things Idra has said in the past, it's hard to not laugh at "that" being his undoing. The truth doesn't always sound pleasing to the ears and it doesn't always lead to good results, which is why so many are dishonest and only spew bs. Lesson learned here is do w/e you want, but simply don't make it appear that your employer condones it and shares the same sentiment.

So basically it's cool to BM everyone (even teammates), but don't implicate paycheck issuers. Like that's the first time he's said anything disparaging about his fans... If someone gives you shit, you probably want to "own" them back. If he didn't get fired for that post, he would have done so. You can't really read into "o, he is not thankful for any of his fans or has no respect for any of them." How many viewers do you think Idra would have lost over those comments if EG didn't say anything/do anything about it? Probably 0. He probably would have even gained viewers, just to see what he will do next, only validating what he said.

It's unfortunate he's not playing Terran in HotS, considering the success of Terrans in BW that were far worse than him. For people saying Idra is the most popular player, well who is also viewed as the most BM player. If you don't view him as a good player, then why does everyone like him? Personality? Well, he showed it and now it's a bad thing because maybe it's directed towards you? Maybe stop encouraging BM/rewarding it, then. Anything for entertainment that's not at your expense.

If a player with a BM persona is going to eventually get fired for it, it's disappointing when it's pretty G rated/mild in comparison to some other stuff. But, I guess, it was simply directed towards people that are off limits. Not much of a lesson to be learned here or a drastic change in personality required.


lol he won't become suddenly great at this game just because he changes his race to terran.


That was more to do with his initial choice in race. Zerg was better in WoL, but now Terran is better. He might not become great, but when you see people like QXC some bad c+/b- BW player looking like god in SC 2, there's simply no way Idra wouldn't be faring a lot better now if he originally picked Terrran.


They are different games. People who are really good at BW may not be as good in SC2. Jaedong may not even be as good as Life in his whole SC2 career despite his BW's successes.
trips
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom107 Posts
May 10 2013 08:42 GMT
#2587
On SOTG incontrol said idras earnings were "ballpark" figure $6000 a month so maybe $5000 or $7000???.Thats a lot of cash to lose.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 10 2013 08:42 GMT
#2588
On May 10 2013 17:41 sfbaydave wrote:
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.


You act like IdrA wasn't getting payment. You think he didn't make money from it? lol.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
May 10 2013 08:43 GMT
#2589
On May 10 2013 17:41 sfbaydave wrote:
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.

Yea, I'm sure he made EG millions, if not billions! Really makes me wonder why there's people without an esports pro-team! Free cash!
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
May 10 2013 08:43 GMT
#2590
On May 10 2013 17:41 sfbaydave wrote:
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.


Was paid for this job too.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 08:43 GMT
#2591
On May 10 2013 17:39 Wertheron wrote:
Idra fan: "Idra youre so badass bro, i love youuuuuuuuu!"

Idra: "you're all a bunch of fucks"

Idra fan: "Youre so amazing, i will defend you until the end !"


Lol yes it makes for a popcorn-popping night of reading these people's hilarious attempts at justifying Idra's behavior and/or pretending like EG "did something" to him and is somehow "to blame for it all".
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
sunless
Profile Joined November 2011
62 Posts
May 10 2013 08:46 GMT
#2592
Good luck, Grack, hope you get the results you're after.
"-Probes transferring. -An SCV as well. A little bit of an identity problem over there."
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 10 2013 08:46 GMT
#2593
On May 10 2013 17:34 ErrantKnight wrote:
Idra may be Idra, I still think EG went too far. Why fire him now ? He been BM ever since Brood War. Idra is one of the best NA players what ever what anyone says and has potential to become top 1 foreigner whatever Kas says, he was one of the best players on Brood War and in the early SC2.



Before you could discount his BM as part of his intense passion for the game. But lately, over the course of the past year, he's basically admitted he hates SC2 and is in it for the money. His last post basically confirms that he thinks he gets paid to BM and 'pander' ... when in actuality, he gets paid to win

On SOTG, InControl admitted that EG was making a conscious effort to shed their image that EG is only 'in it for the money'. IdrA defeatist and cynical attitude lately would pretty much be a slap in the face to management if that's the case.
kinray
Profile Joined September 2007
Bulgaria49 Posts
May 10 2013 08:46 GMT
#2594
On May 10 2013 17:41 sfbaydave wrote:
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.



Welcome to the real world

In more serious note this is just a business move from EG. If you think one of your players don't do their job you fire him.
graveboy
Profile Joined January 2013
5 Posts
May 10 2013 08:47 GMT
#2595
firing idra is uncalled for he was just joking around with his fans but some of the none fans took this way out of hand. EG should not have fired him that is way to harsh for just a joke.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 10 2013 08:48 GMT
#2596
On May 10 2013 17:47 graveboy wrote:
firing idra is uncalled for he was just joking around with his fans but some of the none fans took this way out of hand. EG should not have fired him that is way to harsh for just a joke.


He's been making those "jokes" for years now.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 08:51:03
May 10 2013 08:50 GMT
#2597
Hates SC2 ? After some months at McDonalds without 6000 doll a month where boss will not wait three years for firing you after insulting the clients or collegues, i'm sure he will love playing Starcraft.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
May 10 2013 08:50 GMT
#2598
On May 10 2013 17:30 JerKy wrote:
I'm gonna pretend this massive pooling of negative comments and ignorance isn't being posted

I really hope this serves as a BIGGER wake up call for IdrA; relative to the non-Korean scene, he's pretty well off in terms of his talent/skill at the game (as much as people may dislike him, you can't deny there are still a lot of foreign "pros" that aren't as good). Anyway, he has the capacity to achieve, his mentality just isn't there. You play with so much negativity, it's just so hard to prevent it from affecting your play. I think from Alex's viewpoint, this was the proper thing to do. Now, all we can hope for is IdrA to shape up and make a strong come back.

Those other foreign "pros" often post more results than Idra. He hasn't won or done anything relevant since the beginning of 2011 now. His attitude towards the game has always been extremely negative (he'd much rather blame his losses on balance than on his own mistakes) and his behaviour was pretty toxic. He's extremely lucky that EG didn't boot him sooner. As far as sports teams go, esports teams are very lenient in keeping players on board who just don't perform.
majava
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland248 Posts
May 10 2013 08:51 GMT
#2599
On May 10 2013 17:41 sfbaydave wrote:
Freckin EG....

Treating kids like they're pieces of meat.
Idra made EG so much money over the last few years.
Now that they feel he wont generate as much money, they throw him out like trash.


You mean how EG paid Idra and in return Idra created revenue for EG. And when EG figured they wouldn't be getting their moneys worth anymore they fired him? Damn that sounds almost like something only every company in the face of the earth would do.

You're right, shame on EG. How could they fire an underperforming employee!
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
May 10 2013 08:51 GMT
#2600
Release the Gracken!
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
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