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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:05:18
May 09 2013 00:03 GMT
#21
get some help

edit: the behavior you mention is 100% not normal, and you should 1) quit sc and 2) go see a doctor
you are either childish and looking for internet pity, or are an actual threat to yourself and others around u
Question.?
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:04:44
May 09 2013 00:04 GMT
#22
Could it be a mindset thing ?

How do you feel about your loss ? Do you blame it on imbalance or good play from your opponent/bad play from you ?

I think there is a lot more rage if you think you lost a game because of imbalance. Because there is the notion that "whatever you do, your opponent is still going to win because his race is imba". And that's gotta make someone rage.

On the other hand, if you're raging at your own play, just look at your errors/replays and try to improve, try to think "I'm gonna learn something with every loss".

And also, as qxc says, try to improve all those things outside the game (sleep, stress, food, exercise).
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
May 09 2013 00:04 GMT
#23
Stop playing SC2 or get professional help.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:07:59
May 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#24
On May 09 2013 09:01 Lauriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:55 Whatson wrote:
What makes you rage like this? Is it because you find some strategy to be really stupid, do you feel like you outplayed your opponent but still lost, or are you more frustrated by your own mistakes?

EDIT: Or are you just made whenever you lose, regardless of the reason?


It depends. Losing several games in a row and often times to cheeses or strategies that prevent me from practicing what I want can set it off. That's the biggest thing.


- you always practice against the random if you play on ladder. if you play on ladder, tell yourself beforehand that you might get cheesed and die and that your odds won't improve when you lose once. what is important for you is that you can die 2 or 10 times in a row to cheese and when you don't get cheesed once you might make a mistake or the opponent is just better.

- if you want to practice something in particular, practice with your friends.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
May 09 2013 00:05 GMT
#25
I HAD similar problems, except the 4th one in the list. All I do is trying to not angry after losing bad games, because I believe that if I keep calm I'll get better faster.

And yes, getting a routine physical activity such as going to the gym will make a much better you.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 09 2013 00:06 GMT
#26
Sounds like a blog
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:06:57
May 09 2013 00:06 GMT
#27
It's all about mindset, stay calm and address what happened in the game.
It's simple but emotions make humans humans, although that's also a weakness in humans.
See someone who can help you or take out your stress by walking,working out,running after a hard loss/losses.
In the end you have to think "is it really worth it?"
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Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
May 09 2013 00:06 GMT
#28
Does every loss trigger this, only ladder games or when you get BMed ?
How do you feel when playing ?
And what exactly is triggering it ?
Just loosing cant be the reason because you will always loose a game when you play a bunch, and I doubt that you explode everyday.

Imagine a situation in real live where you actually felt beeing cheated or humiliated, how did you react there ? Did it also enrage you ?
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
May 09 2013 00:07 GMT
#29
On May 09 2013 08:56 qxc wrote:
I've generally found my rage to be highly correlated with what I do before I begin practice. A few basic questions

Also to the above poster - I don't think finding another hobby would help this. It's a competitive rage - so unless you want to stop competing for the rest of your life it's something to be overcome and solved.

Are you sleeping enough?
Are you destressing before you begin playing?
Are you eating enough / properly?
Are you exercising regularly?

There's more but these are the most obvious. If you take care of yourself before and after you play - you'll not only play better but rage less if you do lose.

best of luck


Competitive rage is the best term for it. I don't play SC2 professionally (nor will I ever), but I'm a highly competitive person, which is why I've been successful at...well everything I've tried to be, honestly. Telling myself I'm not good enough or that I'm bad is actually what leads me into these kinds of fits at times. It's rage at myself. The problem is that I'm so incensed after losing that I can't even stomach going back and watching the replay, because it'll just make me angrier. The result is that I just queue another game with a terrible mindset, and start spiraling.

As for your questions:

1. That's...interesting to answer. I've always had somewhat lighter sleeping habits than others I know. 6 hours is a great night for me, and 5 is doable (for a few days anyway). My father is the same way and in great shape into his 60s, so I'm not sure if it's genetic or what. I probably could sleep more though.
2. Usually when I'm beginning to play, I'm just getting home from work, which is, ironically, not that stressful. So...yes? I'm not doing anything specifically though to try to get into a good frame of mind.
3. I probably don't have the greatest eating habits in the world, but generally I'd say yes. I'm in relatively good shape and watch what I put in my body.
4. Unfortunately no. This is something I need to do more of.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:10:08
May 09 2013 00:08 GMT
#30
I do all of these things. Once I snapped my headphones in half, crushed my mouse, broke my telephone, my keyboard, and punched my desk till I almost broke my hand. Fucking cheese! Well, I did all of those things, the more I played [and the more I played with friends, which I dont mind losing to] the less I got angry when losing a game. Now I'm just pissy for a few minutes.

@Lauriel. Exactly, its competition. I've flipped a table over once because I thought [accurately] that someone was cheating in monopoly.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
May 09 2013 00:09 GMT
#31
i used to rage really hard at sc2, not as hard as you, but pretty hard

no other game triggers this, so i just quit and went back to broodwar. finding another game to play is probably the best thing you can do.
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
May 09 2013 00:10 GMT
#32
On May 09 2013 09:02 Diks wrote:
May I ask you;
How do you feel when you do win ?


This took me off guard.

Honestly? Relieved, more than anything.
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
May 09 2013 00:11 GMT
#33
grow up, stop throwing a hissy fit every time you lose, it's a fucking game.
LoveBuzz
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada28 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:13:54
May 09 2013 00:11 GMT
#34
I used to rage fairly hard, but I found that putting my losses, and the game as a whole, into perspective really helped me.

The fact is, when you lose, it sucks, but SOMETHING went wrong. If you lost to a cheese, the fix is probably quite simple - practice scouting, make sure you account for cheeses in your typical ladder builds (don't assume you can use GSL builds, b/c those builds are made to take risks and beat other pros, not to hold ladder cheese).

Anyway, try to remember that if you rage, you will impair, if not fully prevent your ability to learn after a loss, which turns an opportunity to improve into a REAL loss. Not only will you not learn, but you will play on tilt if you keep playing, and probably lose more. Understand that losing a game is a chance for you to get better -- I'd argue that losing and knowing why is better than winning and not knowing why -- and seize the opportunity rather than wasting it.

If that doesn't work for you, you should probably think about how important video games are in your life, and considering doing something else with your time. The "seek professional help" suggestions might seem condescending, but that's actually a good idea as well - being able to admit you have a problem and discuss it are important steps in the solution.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
May 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#35
I'd really recommend stop playing. Just because we like gaming doesn't mean it's necessarily a healthy activity, especially with games as addictive as SC2. I know it was not good for me, and I was in a perpetual awful mood for the year or so I was really into laddering.

Also, QXC talked about how it's a competitive rage.. that's probably true, but there are things about gaming that compounds things like feeling despondent from losses and so on. If you're really the competitive type, I'd suggest getting into sports, like submission wrestling. The difference between losing in an environment where you're seated and not really using your body, and competing in a very strenuous physical activity, is the endorphins and other hormones released during such activity. You're less likely to rage and act out when you have this natural high combined with exhaustion going on, and physical activity in general has a very positive effect on mental states and even learning.
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
May 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#36
1. Stop playing, at least for a while
2. Exercise after a loss: do push ups or lift weights until you've depleted all your "rage energy"
3. type gg after every match and nothing else.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
LOveRH
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:16:09
May 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#37
Hey,

I totally understand where you come from. I never experienced rage as truly powerful as you say but i had my deal of rage moments (punching things and breaking stuff).

My advice? Find the source of your rage mentally, find the trigger. Think about it, what is truly pissing you off that much that you are going out of control? I found from my experience, once you get to the source and understand what pisses you off, you can mentally walk yourself out of it. Ask yourself questions. For example if you find out that it's because you find yourself worthless, ask yourself why, how etc. It really really does help if you are willing to try to understand yourself, instead of just letting yourself go through the episodes.

I would suggest a therapist if you want faster treatments but that doesn't mean you cant try help yourself as well. From how bad you are getting rage spits you really need to find out what makes you so upset, mentally.

I hope you get better, it's not easy .
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
May 09 2013 00:13 GMT
#38
To everyone saying "quit and get professional help," thank you for your input, but I'm not going to respond, simply because it's a last resort, and I'm looking for solutions that will prevent me from going to that end. I also don't have the money for professional help, and have no interest in talking to a psychiatrist about gaming rage that they probably don't understand to begin with.

Again, thank you for the input though. It is noted.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
May 09 2013 00:13 GMT
#39
I completely understand where you're coming from, when I was 15 I punched a hole in the wall because a rogue wouldn't stop ganking me in WoW XD. Though, it honestly is quite simple, just get over it. No one is going to give a shit about your leet starcraft skills, nor will you ever get good enough to play in GSL or MLG and get a good ranking. Just let it go and make a concious effort to stay in control....that said, maybe you should try some drugs xD
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 00:17:10
May 09 2013 00:14 GMT
#40
I feel I get pretty heated when I ladder... but never to anything even close to ur levels of rage...
but then again My parents would whoop my ass if I threw temper tantrums. (and I was one of those kids...who was quiet and friendly and the good one... until my tolerance/patience dam broke and then I would Lose it... like having my older brother who is 6" taller and about 80LB's heavier, in a corner crying as I stand over him with a baseball bat)

But then I turned like 10...and realized throwing temper tantrums is silly and childish.... so I don't punch random things and turn into a raging psycho anymore.

IDK why everyone is giving you so much advice/sympathy when its as simple as "Ur not 5 anymore, temper tantrums are bad!"

ITS LITERALLY A CHOICE. Just don't act like a psychopath when you play video games.

Did you not have older brothers growing up? Cause if you lived at my house, after you lost your shit one of the older siblings would have corrected this behavior pretty much immediately once you were at an age where it was ok to hit you hard in the arm/chest.


Don't understand all of the sympathy you are getting, for acting like a 5 year old in the breakfast cereal aisle.

maybe you should pay a large friend to put you in a chokehold everytime u throw a temper tantrum... should correct this problem of yours eventually.
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