Awaiting the ForGGeddon - Page 4

On May 05 2013 11:21 GTPGlitch wrote:
Why don't players lose points when they retire (ex Puzzle, Coca)

They just stayed at the level they were at through their LoL periods and I feel like that shouldn't really happen :<

On May 05 2013 05:50 WindCalibur wrote:
I feel like people should get banned or warned for saying the same thing about people rating too high etc again and again without reading more in the OP on how and why some of players are higher or lower than they should be.

On May 05 2013 17:35 Figgy wrote:


They are way higher than they are because unlike Chess ELO, beating up on 1500 scrubs can get you up to 3k if you dodge every decent player in existance.

It's like if we get a Chess GM and throw him in a random Chess Club in the middle of nowhere where the top player is 2k rated.

He will never even come close to getting above 2400 even if he has a 100% win record until he faces other Grandmasters, but in this system ForGG will be 3000 and best on the planet despite never facing a decent player in his whole life.

On May 05 2013 17:40 Grovbolle wrote:

While I do understand you are just trying to make a point. No player has reached 2k under the current rating system.

On May 05 2013 18:26 slowbacontron wrote:
One thing that is possibly bugging people is the fact that Aligulac ratings fluctuate pretty wildly compared to what one might be used to. Reading Figgy's post gave me this idea: Check a chess player's ELO over time and a SC2 player's Aligulac over time.

As just an example, here's how Anand (first player to pop into my head) has been doing http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?event=5000017 Since February, Anand has played 29 games that count toward his ELO. What is the net change over that time? Three points (I think, I'm not sure how I should interpret the graph). Now see ForGG's rating history http://aligulac.com/players/34-ForGG/period/83/. Over a mere 13 days and 19 games, his rating has changed fifty-five points! That is a huge difference.

Now, I am NOT trying to solve any problems here. I know that Kespa's ratings are changing with the same parameters as ForGG's, and I also am aware that ForGG has been playing SC2 for months whereas Anand has been playing chess for literally decades. But I am just saying that this high ratings change might be one source of shock to people who see Aligulac.

On May 05 2013 19:06 CamoPillbox wrote:
who is lucinfron?

On May 05 2013 05:46 Nerchio wrote:
If a guy that doesn't scout in more than 50% of the games gets even close to rank1 it means something is wrong with your ranking.

On May 05 2013 07:02 Greenei wrote:


Or maybe you should read the fucking OP...

On May 05 2013 20:19 Grovbolle wrote:
Actually, Nerchio has a winning record against ForGG. (Not sure on their ladder shenanigans)
http://aligulac.com/results/search/?op=search&after=&before=&players=forgg
nerchio&eventtext=&bo=all&offline=both&game=all

On May 05 2013 19:03 Grovbolle wrote:

While I do agree. People also seem to want every "flavor of the month" player to be in top 3. How does one do both?

On May 06 2013 04:43 slowbacontron wrote:

Well, it seems to me that ForGG is not most people's flavor of the month I don't know.

On May 06 2013 05:53 Grovbolle wrote:

Personally, I believe that INnoVation is probably the best player in the world right now.
People need to realize that no rating system, which isn't being tampered with, can put him #1 so fast without giving up on the prediction power. Then factor in all the Kespa players we know close to nothing about and we have the issue.

Honestly, as soon as a few players beat ForGG in TvT, it should stabilize.

On May 05 2013 19:56 Kihshra wrote:

I know you're angry at ForGG cause he kicks your ass all the time, but that's not a reason to come here and bitch about it.